Players tell Rafa Benitez: Bring Michael Owen back
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[quote author=peekay link=topic=33881.msg879565#msg879565 date=1243816211]
Rafa is definitely going to try and boost up the English contingent in our squad. As of now, the players we have been linked to are:
Barry, Glen Johnson, Adam Johnson, Downing, Wheater and Owen
I am not really a big fan of Owen returning but given our budget constraints, he represents the best value for money out of that lot. Especially if he is on a pay as you play contract.
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But the only two players we've been linked to where there has been any corroboration are Lavezzi and Silva. Everything else is as likely made up paper stuff. Even O'Neill said there had been no contact re: Barry.
Rafa is definitely going to try and boost up the English contingent in our squad. As of now, the players we have been linked to are:
Barry, Glen Johnson, Adam Johnson, Downing, Wheater and Owen
I am not really a big fan of Owen returning but given our budget constraints, he represents the best value for money out of that lot. Especially if he is on a pay as you play contract.
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But the only two players we've been linked to where there has been any corroboration are Lavezzi and Silva. Everything else is as likely made up paper stuff. Even O'Neill said there had been no contact re: Barry.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33881.msg879389#msg879389 date=1243777011]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33881.msg879385#msg879385 date=1243776421]
The fact is, I'd rather be bringing Owen off the bench to score than Voronin or N'gog.
[/quote]Then either you havnt seen him play for a long long time or you are bonkers.
I dont rate N'gog at all and Voronin is just 'ok' but id rather either than Micheal Owen.09 he is slow, ponderous...oh look i cant be bothered Squig, if we sign him i'll support him but i think it would be a stupid mistake.
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There are a couple of differences between Owenand N'gog; one is young, foreign and quick while the other is old(er) and scores goals. Clearly we should be looking chasing as many players like N'gog as possible. ???
To be fair I don't want to sign Owen - he's a thousand miles better than some of the mindless opinions of cretins on this site who aren't now nor will ever be fit to lace his boots. But Owen needs games in succession to really be on song and he just isn't the right player to put beside/behind/in front of Torres. With that in mind his impact would be very limited and the "feel good" vibe that came with Robbie wouldn't be of the same level.
The one thing that might make it interesting is Owen's performance at Madrid. Different league etc but many of his games there were as a sub and the regular 25 minutes he got as a sub seemed to serve him well. I just wonder if this would serve to shorten his career in the cold of northern england where he couldn't warm up properly as a sub.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33881.msg879385#msg879385 date=1243776421]
The fact is, I'd rather be bringing Owen off the bench to score than Voronin or N'gog.
[/quote]Then either you havnt seen him play for a long long time or you are bonkers.
I dont rate N'gog at all and Voronin is just 'ok' but id rather either than Micheal Owen.09 he is slow, ponderous...oh look i cant be bothered Squig, if we sign him i'll support him but i think it would be a stupid mistake.
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There are a couple of differences between Owenand N'gog; one is young, foreign and quick while the other is old(er) and scores goals. Clearly we should be looking chasing as many players like N'gog as possible. ???
To be fair I don't want to sign Owen - he's a thousand miles better than some of the mindless opinions of cretins on this site who aren't now nor will ever be fit to lace his boots. But Owen needs games in succession to really be on song and he just isn't the right player to put beside/behind/in front of Torres. With that in mind his impact would be very limited and the "feel good" vibe that came with Robbie wouldn't be of the same level.
The one thing that might make it interesting is Owen's performance at Madrid. Different league etc but many of his games there were as a sub and the regular 25 minutes he got as a sub seemed to serve him well. I just wonder if this would serve to shorten his career in the cold of northern england where he couldn't warm up properly as a sub.
[quote author=Glock link=topic=33881.msg879605#msg879605 date=1243829726]
Years after years of linking Owen back to Liverpool, have you children not get bored of all this Owen to LFC shit??
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What? In the same way as you haven't got bored with your little charade?
Years after years of linking Owen back to Liverpool, have you children not get bored of all this Owen to LFC shit??
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What? In the same way as you haven't got bored with your little charade?
[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=33881.msg879577#msg879577 date=1243821202]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33881.msg879389#msg879389 date=1243777011]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33881.msg879385#msg879385 date=1243776421]
The fact is, I'd rather be bringing Owen off the bench to score than Voronin or N'gog.
[/quote]Then either you havnt seen him play for a long long time or you are bonkers.
I dont rate N'gog at all and Voronin is just 'ok' but id rather either than Micheal Owen.09 he is slow, ponderous...oh look i cant be bothered Squig, if we sign him i'll support him but i think it would be a stupid mistake.
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There are a couple of differences between Owenand N'gog; one is young, foreign and quick while the other is old(er) and scores goals. Clearly we should be looking chasing as many players like N'gog as possible. ???
[/quote]Christ i dont know how i became N'gogs cheif apologist in this thread! I am probably the first one here to say he was shit. Im not saying IN ANY WAY that i think N'gog is the future, or even at this stage a better option for us. My point is that putting Owen into our best 11 would weaken it. I dont see how that can be argued. And me, well i dont want to sign ANY more 'squad options' if we dont sign players to challenge the first team i will fucking cry. Owen is a legend and one of my favourite ever Liverpool players, but he does not represent a forward step. Im amazed so many would sign him given the abuse Rafa gets regarding squad options and rotation. Anyway, i said i was done and keep coming back. If we sign him terrific, i hope he becomes the impact player i just cant see him being.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33881.msg879389#msg879389 date=1243777011]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33881.msg879385#msg879385 date=1243776421]
The fact is, I'd rather be bringing Owen off the bench to score than Voronin or N'gog.
[/quote]Then either you havnt seen him play for a long long time or you are bonkers.
I dont rate N'gog at all and Voronin is just 'ok' but id rather either than Micheal Owen.09 he is slow, ponderous...oh look i cant be bothered Squig, if we sign him i'll support him but i think it would be a stupid mistake.
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There are a couple of differences between Owenand N'gog; one is young, foreign and quick while the other is old(er) and scores goals. Clearly we should be looking chasing as many players like N'gog as possible. ???
[/quote]Christ i dont know how i became N'gogs cheif apologist in this thread! I am probably the first one here to say he was shit. Im not saying IN ANY WAY that i think N'gog is the future, or even at this stage a better option for us. My point is that putting Owen into our best 11 would weaken it. I dont see how that can be argued. And me, well i dont want to sign ANY more 'squad options' if we dont sign players to challenge the first team i will fucking cry. Owen is a legend and one of my favourite ever Liverpool players, but he does not represent a forward step. Im amazed so many would sign him given the abuse Rafa gets regarding squad options and rotation. Anyway, i said i was done and keep coming back. If we sign him terrific, i hope he becomes the impact player i just cant see him being.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33881.msg879645#msg879645 date=1243842730]
Christ i know i became N'gogs cheif fan in general! I am probably the first one here to say he can be the shit.[/quote]
why the sudden 180?
Christ i know i became N'gogs cheif fan in general! I am probably the first one here to say he can be the shit.[/quote]
why the sudden 180?
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33881.msg879389#msg879389 date=1243777011]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33881.msg879385#msg879385 date=1243776421]
The fact is, I'd rather be bringing Owen off the bench to score than Voronin or N'gog.
[/quote]Then either you havnt seen him play for a long long time or you are bonkers.
I dont rate N'gog at all and Voronin is just 'ok' but id rather either than Micheal Owen.09 he is slow, ponderous...oh look i cant be bothered Squig, if we sign him i'll support him but i think it would be a stupid mistake.
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There are a couple of differences between Owenand N'gog; one is young, foreign and quick while the other is old(er) and scores goals. Clearly we should be looking chasing as many players like N'gog as possible. ???
To be fair I don't want to sign Owen - he's a thousand miles better than some of the mindless opinions of cretins on this site who aren't now nor will ever be fit to lace his boots. But Owen needs games in succession to really be on song and he just isn't the right player to put beside/behind/in front of Torres. With that in mind his impact would be very limited and the "feel good" vibe that came with Robbie wouldn't be of the same level.
The one thing that might make it interesting is Owen's performance at Madrid. Different league etc but many of his games there were as a sub and the regular 25 minutes he got as a sub seemed to serve him well. I just wonder if this would serve to shorten his career in the cold of northern england where he couldn't warm up properly as a sub.
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Surely the wonders of modern technology provide some means of warming up players' muscles in a cold climate? Don't rugby players on the bench wear special heated wraparound things on their thighs?
Anyway, you make some good points Wiz, and prior to this summer I've always been against signing Owen because of his Ingerland profile, high wages, lack of pace and presence etc. But he's fallen so far now that he really isn't much above the level that Fowler was at when he came back. If he's prepared to forget about his international career and his bank balance and play as a bargain-basement supersub for us in the hope of finally winning major honours, then I'd be in favour. He's probably an upgrade on Voronin after all.
If not, never mind - we can see what Nemeth's made of.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33881.msg879389#msg879389 date=1243777011]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33881.msg879385#msg879385 date=1243776421]
The fact is, I'd rather be bringing Owen off the bench to score than Voronin or N'gog.
[/quote]Then either you havnt seen him play for a long long time or you are bonkers.
I dont rate N'gog at all and Voronin is just 'ok' but id rather either than Micheal Owen.09 he is slow, ponderous...oh look i cant be bothered Squig, if we sign him i'll support him but i think it would be a stupid mistake.
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There are a couple of differences between Owenand N'gog; one is young, foreign and quick while the other is old(er) and scores goals. Clearly we should be looking chasing as many players like N'gog as possible. ???
To be fair I don't want to sign Owen - he's a thousand miles better than some of the mindless opinions of cretins on this site who aren't now nor will ever be fit to lace his boots. But Owen needs games in succession to really be on song and he just isn't the right player to put beside/behind/in front of Torres. With that in mind his impact would be very limited and the "feel good" vibe that came with Robbie wouldn't be of the same level.
The one thing that might make it interesting is Owen's performance at Madrid. Different league etc but many of his games there were as a sub and the regular 25 minutes he got as a sub seemed to serve him well. I just wonder if this would serve to shorten his career in the cold of northern england where he couldn't warm up properly as a sub.
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Surely the wonders of modern technology provide some means of warming up players' muscles in a cold climate? Don't rugby players on the bench wear special heated wraparound things on their thighs?
Anyway, you make some good points Wiz, and prior to this summer I've always been against signing Owen because of his Ingerland profile, high wages, lack of pace and presence etc. But he's fallen so far now that he really isn't much above the level that Fowler was at when he came back. If he's prepared to forget about his international career and his bank balance and play as a bargain-basement supersub for us in the hope of finally winning major honours, then I'd be in favour. He's probably an upgrade on Voronin after all.
If not, never mind - we can see what Nemeth's made of.
I agree with Oncy. I don't want him back. This proposal is rigid with sentiment and nostalgia.
I think we need a better (fitter) back up than Micheal Owen. And Owen wouldn't come to be third choice.
Plus he would bring the irritating and unnecessary media drama of 'Oh why isn't Rafa starting with Owen?' Blah blah blah. Sod that.
I think we need a better (fitter) back up than Micheal Owen. And Owen wouldn't come to be third choice.
Plus he would bring the irritating and unnecessary media drama of 'Oh why isn't Rafa starting with Owen?' Blah blah blah. Sod that.
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[quote author=themn link=topic=33881.msg879880#msg879880 date=1243860114]
We could send Souness in a private plane to convin....oh !
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Did this happen before?
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Newcastle did it.
[quote author=themn link=topic=33881.msg879880#msg879880 date=1243860114]
We could send Souness in a private plane to convin....oh !
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Did this happen before?
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Newcastle did it.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=33881.msg879842#msg879842 date=1243858172]
I think when he gets the chance to talk with the club about a contract whoever is supposed to deal with him should take a holiday.
See how he likes it.
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Real Madrid knock on his door when he was negociating an extension with LFC.
He would have been a fool to refuse that oportunity, esp. in 2004.
He would be a good option from the bench.
We still need to buy a top striker.
I think when he gets the chance to talk with the club about a contract whoever is supposed to deal with him should take a holiday.
See how he likes it.
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Real Madrid knock on his door when he was negociating an extension with LFC.
He would have been a fool to refuse that oportunity, esp. in 2004.
He would be a good option from the bench.
We still need to buy a top striker.
Tony Stephens, Michael's agent, was the bloke who should never have been tolerated by Parry et al for such a long time. He stalled and stalled, then, amazingly, declared he was off on 'sabbatical'! I've never heard of such nonsense being attempted, let alone allowed to succeed.
This was a report when Owen signed for Madrid;
The 24-year-old is to be unveiled at the Bernabéu at a press conference today, though the role played by his agent Tony Stephens has left Liverpool's new manager smouldering back on Merseyside.
"To suggest that we didn't want Michael and he was not happy here is untrue," said BenÃtez, who will take charge of his first Premiership match at Tottenham this lunchtime. "Michael was very happy when I spoke with him last week and we wanted him to stay, but the club had been waiting for a year already when I arrived for him to sign a new contract. Two months later he still had not signed.
"The problem is Real were aware of that too and talked with his agent and the player, and then everything changed. I'm sure the club talked about the contract and tried to sign him up, but sometimes you can't control it.
"It's down to the agents. In football now, the agent controls many situations. I knew Michael was a wonderful player and I have no doubts he still is, but the situation changed as soon as Real came in. Then the situation was difficult to control, and bad for us."
Asked whether he thought Stephens, of SFX, had been negotiating with Real behind Liverpool's back, the Spaniard responded pointedly: "You'll have to ask the agent that."
Stephens returned to work after a protracted sabbatical only in spring, by which time Liverpool's offer of a new deal for the England striker had effectively been on the table for eight months. Talks failed to reach agreement, with Owen happy to move on once Real's interest surfaced.
This was a report when Owen signed for Madrid;
The 24-year-old is to be unveiled at the Bernabéu at a press conference today, though the role played by his agent Tony Stephens has left Liverpool's new manager smouldering back on Merseyside.
"To suggest that we didn't want Michael and he was not happy here is untrue," said BenÃtez, who will take charge of his first Premiership match at Tottenham this lunchtime. "Michael was very happy when I spoke with him last week and we wanted him to stay, but the club had been waiting for a year already when I arrived for him to sign a new contract. Two months later he still had not signed.
"The problem is Real were aware of that too and talked with his agent and the player, and then everything changed. I'm sure the club talked about the contract and tried to sign him up, but sometimes you can't control it.
"It's down to the agents. In football now, the agent controls many situations. I knew Michael was a wonderful player and I have no doubts he still is, but the situation changed as soon as Real came in. Then the situation was difficult to control, and bad for us."
Asked whether he thought Stephens, of SFX, had been negotiating with Real behind Liverpool's back, the Spaniard responded pointedly: "You'll have to ask the agent that."
Stephens returned to work after a protracted sabbatical only in spring, by which time Liverpool's offer of a new deal for the England striker had effectively been on the table for eight months. Talks failed to reach agreement, with Owen happy to move on once Real's interest surfaced.
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[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=33881.msg879577#msg879577 date=1243821202]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33881.msg879389#msg879389 date=1243777011]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33881.msg879385#msg879385 date=1243776421]
The fact is, I'd rather be bringing Owen off the bench to score than Voronin or N'gog.
[/quote]Then either you havnt seen him play for a long long time or you are bonkers.
I dont rate N'gog at all and Voronin is just 'ok' but id rather either than Micheal Owen.09 he is slow, ponderous...oh look i cant be bothered Squig, if we sign him i'll support him but i think it would be a stupid mistake.
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There are a couple of differences between Owenand N'gog; one is young, foreign and quick while the other is old(er) and scores goals. Clearly we should be looking chasing as many players like N'gog as possible. ???
[/quote]Christ i dont know how i became N'gogs cheif apologist in this thread! I am probably the first one here to say he was shit. Im not saying IN ANY WAY that i think N'gog is the future, or even at this stage a better option for us. My point is that putting Owen into our best 11 would weaken it. I dont see how that can be argued. And me, well i dont want to sign ANY more 'squad options' if we dont sign players to challenge the first team i will fucking cry. Owen is a legend and one of my favourite ever Liverpool players, but he does not represent a forward step. Im amazed so many would sign him given the abuse Rafa gets regarding squad options and rotation. Anyway, i said i was done and keep coming back. If we sign him terrific, i hope he becomes the impact player i just cant see him being.
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I don't think the partial quote is really representative of what I was saying but no problems.
I think the point is that we wouldn't be buying Owen for our first 11....... in fact we wouldn't be buying him at all. It doesn't impinge on our transfer budget though it will have some impact on our wages budget. However, for me we need to focus all our energies on getting a world beating wide player - preferably on the left. If we can bring Owen in for nothing I fail to see how it weakens us in any way; it can only be a bonus to sign a lethal striker for nothing. I don't for one second think he should be first choice and I certainly don't see how he can be a partner for Torres. However, if we're 1-1 with Stoke, peppering their area and 20 minutes to go I can think of worse situations than to bring Owen off the bench in search of snatching a winner.
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33881.msg879389#msg879389 date=1243777011]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33881.msg879385#msg879385 date=1243776421]
The fact is, I'd rather be bringing Owen off the bench to score than Voronin or N'gog.
[/quote]Then either you havnt seen him play for a long long time or you are bonkers.
I dont rate N'gog at all and Voronin is just 'ok' but id rather either than Micheal Owen.09 he is slow, ponderous...oh look i cant be bothered Squig, if we sign him i'll support him but i think it would be a stupid mistake.
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There are a couple of differences between Owenand N'gog; one is young, foreign and quick while the other is old(er) and scores goals. Clearly we should be looking chasing as many players like N'gog as possible. ???
[/quote]Christ i dont know how i became N'gogs cheif apologist in this thread! I am probably the first one here to say he was shit. Im not saying IN ANY WAY that i think N'gog is the future, or even at this stage a better option for us. My point is that putting Owen into our best 11 would weaken it. I dont see how that can be argued. And me, well i dont want to sign ANY more 'squad options' if we dont sign players to challenge the first team i will fucking cry. Owen is a legend and one of my favourite ever Liverpool players, but he does not represent a forward step. Im amazed so many would sign him given the abuse Rafa gets regarding squad options and rotation. Anyway, i said i was done and keep coming back. If we sign him terrific, i hope he becomes the impact player i just cant see him being.
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I don't think the partial quote is really representative of what I was saying but no problems.
I think the point is that we wouldn't be buying Owen for our first 11....... in fact we wouldn't be buying him at all. It doesn't impinge on our transfer budget though it will have some impact on our wages budget. However, for me we need to focus all our energies on getting a world beating wide player - preferably on the left. If we can bring Owen in for nothing I fail to see how it weakens us in any way; it can only be a bonus to sign a lethal striker for nothing. I don't for one second think he should be first choice and I certainly don't see how he can be a partner for Torres. However, if we're 1-1 with Stoke, peppering their area and 20 minutes to go I can think of worse situations than to bring Owen off the bench in search of snatching a winner.
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It wont happen, Rafa wont have the time to stroke his ego.
Well we've got all the leverage. We don't really need him, he doesn't fit our system but he'd be handy to have if we wanted to play 4-4-2 while Torres is injured / rested.
You'd think at this stage he'd be interested in picking up medals more than money and if that's the case I expect to see him here next season. I think Macca might be right about us being the only club that would probably motivate him to get back close to what he used to be.
You'd think at this stage he'd be interested in picking up medals more than money and if that's the case I expect to see him here next season. I think Macca might be right about us being the only club that would probably motivate him to get back close to what he used to be.
I've not heard him speak for a while, but does he care anymore?
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=33881.msg879927#msg879927 date=1243865418]
Tony Stephens, Michael's agent, was the bloke who should never have been tolerated by Parry et al for such a long time. He stalled and stalled, then, amazingly, declared he was off on 'sabbatical'! I've never heard of such nonsense being attempted, let alone allowed to succeed.
This was a report when Owen signed for Madrid;
The 24-year-old is to be unveiled at the Bernabéu at a press conference today, though the role played by his agent Tony Stephens has left Liverpool's new manager smouldering back on Merseyside.
"To suggest that we didn't want Michael and he was not happy here is untrue," said BenÃtez, who will take charge of his first Premiership match at Tottenham this lunchtime. "Michael was very happy when I spoke with him last week and we wanted him to stay, but the club had been waiting for a year already when I arrived for him to sign a new contract. Two months later he still had not signed.
"The problem is Real were aware of that too and talked with his agent and the player, and then everything changed. I'm sure the club talked about the contract and tried to sign him up, but sometimes you can't control it.
"It's down to the agents. In football now, the agent controls many situations. I knew Michael was a wonderful player and I have no doubts he still is, but the situation changed as soon as Real came in. Then the situation was difficult to control, and bad for us."
Asked whether he thought Stephens, of SFX, had been negotiating with Real behind Liverpool's back, the Spaniard responded pointedly: "You'll have to ask the agent that."
Stephens returned to work after a protracted sabbatical only in spring, by which time Liverpool's offer of a new deal for the England striker had effectively been on the table for eight months. Talks failed to reach agreement, with Owen happy to move on once Real's interest surfaced.
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I have to say Macca that this was the interview that always confused me with the whole scenario and led me to believe that Owen was kept in the dark about some things. His subsequent interviews after signing for Real were very pointed that he felt the club had done him over but that he bore no ill feelings towards Rafa or the team.
I have no doubt that Rafa was not overly fussed if he stayed or not but was bitter about the lack of a real transfer fee. He certainly wasn't keen on bringing him back a year later. If he signs him now it will be an interesting scenario - particularly if Owen starts scoring freely again.
Tony Stephens, Michael's agent, was the bloke who should never have been tolerated by Parry et al for such a long time. He stalled and stalled, then, amazingly, declared he was off on 'sabbatical'! I've never heard of such nonsense being attempted, let alone allowed to succeed.
This was a report when Owen signed for Madrid;
The 24-year-old is to be unveiled at the Bernabéu at a press conference today, though the role played by his agent Tony Stephens has left Liverpool's new manager smouldering back on Merseyside.
"To suggest that we didn't want Michael and he was not happy here is untrue," said BenÃtez, who will take charge of his first Premiership match at Tottenham this lunchtime. "Michael was very happy when I spoke with him last week and we wanted him to stay, but the club had been waiting for a year already when I arrived for him to sign a new contract. Two months later he still had not signed.
"The problem is Real were aware of that too and talked with his agent and the player, and then everything changed. I'm sure the club talked about the contract and tried to sign him up, but sometimes you can't control it.
"It's down to the agents. In football now, the agent controls many situations. I knew Michael was a wonderful player and I have no doubts he still is, but the situation changed as soon as Real came in. Then the situation was difficult to control, and bad for us."
Asked whether he thought Stephens, of SFX, had been negotiating with Real behind Liverpool's back, the Spaniard responded pointedly: "You'll have to ask the agent that."
Stephens returned to work after a protracted sabbatical only in spring, by which time Liverpool's offer of a new deal for the England striker had effectively been on the table for eight months. Talks failed to reach agreement, with Owen happy to move on once Real's interest surfaced.
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I have to say Macca that this was the interview that always confused me with the whole scenario and led me to believe that Owen was kept in the dark about some things. His subsequent interviews after signing for Real were very pointed that he felt the club had done him over but that he bore no ill feelings towards Rafa or the team.
I have no doubt that Rafa was not overly fussed if he stayed or not but was bitter about the lack of a real transfer fee. He certainly wasn't keen on bringing him back a year later. If he signs him now it will be an interesting scenario - particularly if Owen starts scoring freely again.
I didn't read the thread; I'll just voice my opinion. If Owen wants to come here with drastically reduced wage demands and doesn't mind sitting on the bench and not being the prima-donna of this team, then - welcome back, Mickey! If he thinks he is entitled to any kind of special treatment - he can fcuk right off. Last thing we want to do is risk disrupting our team's chemistry for one past-his-prime player.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=33881.msg880146#msg880146 date=1243895662]
Well we've got all the leverage. We don't really need him, he doesn't fit our system but he'd be handy to have if we wanted to play 4-4-2 while Torres is injured / rested.
You'd think at this stage he'd be interested in picking up medals more than money and if that's the case I expect to see him here next season. I think Macca might be right about us being the only club that would probably motivate him to get back close to what he used to be.
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I think he will come back on our terms, if we give him the opportunity. It is his last shot to get back into England squad. Even if he plays 20 -25 games and scores in the Champions League he will be in the world cup squad.
Well we've got all the leverage. We don't really need him, he doesn't fit our system but he'd be handy to have if we wanted to play 4-4-2 while Torres is injured / rested.
You'd think at this stage he'd be interested in picking up medals more than money and if that's the case I expect to see him here next season. I think Macca might be right about us being the only club that would probably motivate him to get back close to what he used to be.
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I think he will come back on our terms, if we give him the opportunity. It is his last shot to get back into England squad. Even if he plays 20 -25 games and scores in the Champions League he will be in the world cup squad.
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There's definitely some sense in that happening. The idea that it definitely could happen is precisely why all this "the kop would welcome him with welcome arms" stuff is OTT. It'd certainly make for an interesting derby dynamic.
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There's definitely some sense in that happening. The idea that it definitely could happen is precisely why all this "the kop would welcome him with welcome arms" stuff is OTT. It'd certainly make for an interesting derby dynamic.
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