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A clear statement that Balotelli was right to override Rodgers' instructions, which he could easily have made. Being pleased (as we all were) that we got a lead in the tie isn't the same as saying we got it in the right way.
I think @cloggypop has got the record amount of likes for any post ever with this post alone...
Said it exactly how it is..
33 and still rising...
Jamie Carragher @Carra2313 hours ago
Was the Balotelli situation with the penalty tonight different to Mirallas & Baines for Everton v Qpr? I think it was because everyone knows Baines is the Everton taker and he started the game so there was no doubt it was wrong what Mirallas did but, Mario would never have been on the penalties because he was on the bench the same would have applied to Stevie if he was on the bench. It was obvious Sturridge was supposed to take it and looked a little peeved along with Henderson but at that moment the best penalty taker Lfc had on the pitch was Balotelli as we've with his spot kicks for Man City. So in this instance I was ok with it because the main penalty taker wasn't on the pitch in Gerrard. And also because he scored!!!!
" I was screaming for Mario to take it. I think a lot of the blame lies with Rodgers for not designating it properly. Gerrard exacerbated the situation with his stupid comments."
I said the same thing above and Ross is getting my likes. To quote Gerrard, I think Ross is being a bit mischievous here, rules are rules.
I actually completely agree with this: there is a balance of risk involved and yes, if players keep overriding the manager's decision we'll be going nowhere fast. But sometimes there should be exceptions. If I am a company boss and my employee overrides my decision because he has better information, acts on it and is proven right, I would be proud of the employee and the courage and initiative he or she showed. Of course if my employees override my decisions all the time, then we have a problem. But I don't think Rodgers is in danger of that at all.
I think JJ is right about Balotelli being a bad influence, I don't think he's good for morale.
But in this case, what ever the reason for the confusion, Balotelli was right to take the ball, and Henderson was right to "let" him take it.
But in this case, what ever the reason for the confusion, Balotelli was right to take the ball, and Henderson was right to "let" him take it.
The same Studge who LOVES him and talks about a great partnership with him? The same Stevie who backed off dramatically? I think it's a nothing issue ... Mourinho can't manage kids - unless they're good kids (i.e. those who listen). He has a terrible track record in that sense ... Rodgers will hopefully unlock this kid's talent.
Remind me who hated Hughes? How did that disturb our form on the pitch?
Ballotelli was the right man to take it. He's one of the best penalty takers in Europe. There's no doubt he was right to take the ball and I think it's to his credit that he did.
I don't think Henderson presented the ball to him as they said in commentary. In fact he looked lost and helpless about what to do. He was walking backwards from Ballotelli with the ball open in his arms, and then shrugged when Sturridge complained to him in a 'what can you do?' kind of way. If Managerial instructions were unclear then Henderson should have either jogged over to Rodgers for clarification, or made a clear and firm decision on the pitch.
It's all a bit of fuss about nothing, but it was frustrating to see it played out so publicly on the pitch. Neither Henderson, Sturridge or Gerrard finished the day with much credit.
I don't think Henderson presented the ball to him as they said in commentary. In fact he looked lost and helpless about what to do. He was walking backwards from Ballotelli with the ball open in his arms, and then shrugged when Sturridge complained to him in a 'what can you do?' kind of way. If Managerial instructions were unclear then Henderson should have either jogged over to Rodgers for clarification, or made a clear and firm decision on the pitch.
It's all a bit of fuss about nothing, but it was frustrating to see it played out so publicly on the pitch. Neither Henderson, Sturridge or Gerrard finished the day with much credit.
Didi Hamann ✔ @DietmarHamann
Balotelli had to take that penalty, he's the best at it. No point for anybody else to get involved.
Balotelli had to take that penalty, he's the best at it. No point for anybody else to get involved.
For those who (like me) can't see the video of the post-match analysis from ITV's website, here you go:
http://www.lfc.vn/analysis/analysis-liverpool-besiktas-itv-sport-elk1/
http://www.lfc.vn/analysis/analysis-liverpool-besiktas-itv-sport-elk1/
I'm not sure what this means with regards Henderson's probable future captaincy. Either he's weak by letting Mario bully him out of taking it (I agreed with Mario taking it by the way) or he did well by letting him take it as Mario was the better option but I don't think this was the case. As most people are saying this could have and should have been simpler had the manager given clearer instructions as to who takes the penalties depending on who is on the pitch at the time.
Either way Gerrard should know better than to feed the press a headline and make it a bigger issue than it was and take all of the focus off the hard fought victory with his comments. If he wanted to say something to Balotelli about it he should do that in training or behind closed doors and not on national television.
Either way Gerrard should know better than to feed the press a headline and make it a bigger issue than it was and take all of the focus off the hard fought victory with his comments. If he wanted to say something to Balotelli about it he should do that in training or behind closed doors and not on national television.
Gerrard won't miss it.
Are you saying I should slag Stevie off more often?
Chris Bascombe @_ChrisBascombe 14m14 minutes ago
Brendan Rodgers says Mario Balotelli was Liverpool’s nominated penalty taker once he he was on the field last night.
Brendan Rodgers says Mario Balotelli was Liverpool’s nominated penalty taker once he he was on the field last night.
Well, Henderson, Sturridge and Gerrard all look a little silly now, hopefully in the case of the former two, we can put this down to poor communication from Brendan.
Thinking about it, that would explain quite a lot, Balotelli didn't just say "I'm taking it" and Henderson let him, he said "Boss says I take penalties", Henderson isn't sure but begrudgingly accepts, hence why he looks pissed off yet still lets Mario take the penalty, and also explains why he's looking at the bench.
Just how silly does Gerrard look now..
Daft twat...
Hopefully it draws a line under the issue..
Daft twat...
Hopefully it draws a line under the issue..
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