Oxlade-Chamberlain
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The speculation has been that he wants us because he doesn't like being deployed as a WB at Arsenal and rightly suspects Chelsea will use him as a WB too. But that is literally the only position I'd like him in and with the signing of Robertson and the emergence of Alexander-Arnold it means that the position is not as urgent as it was. To make someone who I can only see as a utility player become a 40m outlay and top earner in our payroll is galling. He would be a good utility signing at 25m on 70g a week. But that isn't happening.
Interesting that The Ox is reportedly not keen on joining Chelsea because he wants to play centrally, rather than RWB, as he suspects Conte will.
Can't second guess Conte, or the veracity of that claim, but I'm not sure Chelsea are that over-stocked with CM players. They've sold Matic, Fabregas is an irregular starter, Hazard is injured and he's already played Luiz in central midfield this season. I don't think he'd struggle to get games centrally there, even if RWB seems perhaps more obvious a requirement for them.
Whether or not he can actually play centrally is another thing. He's always talked about wanting to play there, but it smacks of Theo Walcott's (now abandoned) life-long quest to play as a striker. You might want that, but you're not good enough.
I understand why he would fancy playing for Klopp at Liverpool, not least because he has friends at the club already, and there's plenty of proof about how Klopp can supercharge a player's career. But is he actually that good?
Ox has qualities - pace, strength, and he can take a player on, certainly - but he's a shit finisher and often seems totally fucking brainless in his use of the ball, and he is horribly injury-prone and inconsistent.
I wouldn't be very excited about signing him at all on the available evidence.
Can't second guess Conte, or the veracity of that claim, but I'm not sure Chelsea are that over-stocked with CM players. They've sold Matic, Fabregas is an irregular starter, Hazard is injured and he's already played Luiz in central midfield this season. I don't think he'd struggle to get games centrally there, even if RWB seems perhaps more obvious a requirement for them.
Whether or not he can actually play centrally is another thing. He's always talked about wanting to play there, but it smacks of Theo Walcott's (now abandoned) life-long quest to play as a striker. You might want that, but you're not good enough.
I understand why he would fancy playing for Klopp at Liverpool, not least because he has friends at the club already, and there's plenty of proof about how Klopp can supercharge a player's career. But is he actually that good?
Ox has qualities - pace, strength, and he can take a player on, certainly - but he's a shit finisher and often seems totally fucking brainless in his use of the ball, and he is horribly injury-prone and inconsistent.
I wouldn't be very excited about signing him at all on the available evidence.
I wouldn't be surprised if the instability at Chelsea is a concern to him. Conte is clearly not going to stick around for the long term and I suspect Chamberlain feels he is at a point in his career where he needs to kick on in terms of ability, which makes Klopp possibly a more attractive coach to play for.
He's not worth £14 million let alone £40 million FFS.
Please fuck off to the Chavs.
Please fuck off to the Chavs.
Agree. He would be one of the most underwhelming signings I can remember. And £40 million. Fuck that. Thought he'd gone to Chavs. Please do!
I wouldn't mind him seeing his contract out and then we take him for nowt.
If we must get the brainless tool. This.
In addition to your points I'd add Milner's example. Came to Liverpool as he wanted to play regularly at CM and what did we do?
Chelsea will probably sign Barkley and Drinkwater for central cover. At least they seemingly have made offers for both. I think O-C is right in that he would primarily be cover for the RWB position.
I actually think that Oxlade-Chamberlin is a good player and wouldn't mind him here. As a nice to have - not a must have - and not at the expense of Lemar or Coutinho.
Which is why Can hasn't signed a new contract by all accounts, so it's nigh on impossible to imagine klopp agreeing it to a player new to the club.
Couldn't agree more.
It's a worrying attitude to see in a player, the team comes first. If someone can't abide by that, they are unlikely to be worth the hassle.
It doesn't automatically follow he will sign for us, though. I actually think he'll stay at Arsenal.
If we sign lemar he will
If arsenal want a stupid fee though they can fuck off doubly so
He wants to come to us. Apparently he's happy to stay one more season and then come to us on a free next summer. Either way he's still an average player who's not better than what we already have.
He put the team first last year
So we're not getting yer ma then? Ox must have known we were gonna buy him to fuck Chelsea off yesterday.
Look at the Man City Bournemouth game. City had Aguero, Sane and Stones ready to come on from the bench. We are in danger still of under-estimating how much more our squad needs strengthening. If he wants to come to us and there are no promises about when and where he plays, then sure, take him at this stage - we need more options, deffo.
I agree completely regards numbers. I thought we needed a minimum of six additional players in this summer.
However his purported wages demands are 180k a week. We have an absurdly high wage bill already, & if we're talking about bolstering squad numbers those wages could pay for two average players instead of one.
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