Oxlade-Chamberlain
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Happy Fucking days.
Ha good man Lucas.
Oh dear. Given my long-standing dislike of Lucas, and vey low opinion of his quality, it does not bode well that another player I don't like and don't rate has taken his shirt number.
It's possibly cursed.
It's possibly cursed.
It's quite an indictment of Wenger's increasingly aloof approach to management that six years of so-called coaching has limited the player to this. I actually wanted us to sign him when he was a 17 year old at Southampton - he looked a fine prospect, with just the kind of pace, directness and dynamism that we needed at that time - but it's sad to see how little of that potential has been realised. And for someone who's been mainly used in a position that requires a degree of defensive discipline as well as attacking prowess, he actually seems to have not only learnt little but also, in these past couple of years, started to forget it, or just given up. How much of that is down to the general malaise at Arsenal, where lots of good players seem to have declined, and how much is down to him, remains to be seen. It's a good sign that he's rejected more lucrative deals to come here, and he seems to know he needs to basically re-boot his career, but he certainly needs to be coached now, and rigorously. As I said before, I'm hopeful that Klopp will improve him significantly, but my goodness he looked really flat last night. The work starts now.
See Ramsey, wilshere, Walcott, akpom, iwobi, bellerin (he's not very good at all)
The most recent development success story is surely fabregas? And that's well over a decade
I think it's a worthy gamble really. He's got pace, skill, he can put in a good delivery, the big question mark over him (quite similar to Sterling) is his lack of end product and consistency in the final third.
It's a terrible reflection on Wenger that a player with so much raw ability, who has had more than his fair share of regular top level football, can be so lacking when it comes to decision making. For a manager who used to pride himself on patient but intuitive play, he's let this lad fall by the wayside really and not develop nearly as much as he could have.
It might be harsh pinning that on the manager, but he's repeatedly picked him, yet completely failed to iron out the differences between him being a potentially great player and another could have been/should have been.
He's entering an age gap where he really has to develop and brush up on his flaws, because if he doesn't make it here he'll be at a midtable club soon enough. If anyone can instill the qualities he lacks, it's Klopp. He's harnessed much more intelligence from Can, Lallana and a few others than they had shown previously. Perhaps he can do the same with Oxlade-Chamberlain, but in this side with so much decisiveness and quality in the final third, he has to learn fast.
It's a terrible reflection on Wenger that a player with so much raw ability, who has had more than his fair share of regular top level football, can be so lacking when it comes to decision making. For a manager who used to pride himself on patient but intuitive play, he's let this lad fall by the wayside really and not develop nearly as much as he could have.
It might be harsh pinning that on the manager, but he's repeatedly picked him, yet completely failed to iron out the differences between him being a potentially great player and another could have been/should have been.
He's entering an age gap where he really has to develop and brush up on his flaws, because if he doesn't make it here he'll be at a midtable club soon enough. If anyone can instill the qualities he lacks, it's Klopp. He's harnessed much more intelligence from Can, Lallana and a few others than they had shown previously. Perhaps he can do the same with Oxlade-Chamberlain, but in this side with so much decisiveness and quality in the final third, he has to learn fast.
It's a bit too easy and convenient to apportion all of the blame on Wenger. Has Oxlade-Chamberlain got nothing to do with it?
He's scored 9 goals in 6 seasons. NINE fucking goals in his ENTIRE Premiership career. That's embarrassing, I don't care who your fucking manager is.
The truth lies somewhere in the middle, he's never going to be a world beater, but he can clearly improve, and I believe he will under Klopp, he'll never be good enough to be one of the first names on the team sheet though.
Seems a lot of money and effort for a player who could improve enough to eventually be on the bench.
Why assume that he can clearly improve ?
Shouldn't have to hope a £40m purchase comes good at some point
His problems for England over the past two matches and the Scotland game before that were all personal - sloppy, poor passing , shit Tracking back, selfish. I've only seen Arsenal against us and and against Munich last season in the past 12 months , on each occasion he was also bollocks
I hope he's a good player and I've got it wrong but I've seen nothing so far to suggest that
Shouldn't have to hope a £40m purchase comes good at some point
His problems for England over the past two matches and the Scotland game before that were all personal - sloppy, poor passing , shit Tracking back, selfish. I've only seen Arsenal against us and and against Munich last season in the past 12 months , on each occasion he was also bollocks
I hope he's a good player and I've got it wrong but I've seen nothing so far to suggest that
He's good enough for the bench now when you consider he's replacing Origi and Woodburn.
He cost nearly as much as Salah. Seems a bit weird if that's the height of your expectations.
No, i'm not judging him by his price, it's not even up for debate we overpaid for him, is it? Just trying to view the positives on the deal, he could go on to grow into a better player than he was at Arsenal, but currently he's a good squad player who improves the team.
The one thing that really talks for this signing - apart from his name - is his physical attributes (and perhaps his age too).
A prototype attacking player in Klopp's aggressive assault football and then one can only hope that he can improve the technical aspects of his game too. I have watched him a fair few times for Arsenal and a pattern was showing. Did so well until that final ball, whether it was a pass or shot or a cross. Could be a potentially very frustrating player to watch at times.
Bottom-line for me, I have no clue how this signing will pan out really, but everything taken into consideration I don't think the £40M price tag seems excessive.
A prototype attacking player in Klopp's aggressive assault football and then one can only hope that he can improve the technical aspects of his game too. I have watched him a fair few times for Arsenal and a pattern was showing. Did so well until that final ball, whether it was a pass or shot or a cross. Could be a potentially very frustrating player to watch at times.
Bottom-line for me, I have no clue how this signing will pan out really, but everything taken into consideration I don't think the £40M price tag seems excessive.
Personally I'll wish him the best and of course hope he does well. I do think he fits into my player category of 'Merde Sac' though - Basically a shit bag but with a whiff of class about him. We'll see I guess.
Good job we only paid £35 million for him then. Oh wait...
If anything this is proof that we got Salah for a steal in this window just gone.
I think anyone that bought early did well.
It feels like everything changed after the Neymar transfer and shit just got ridiculous.
City surely would've had to pay at least double for Silva post-Neymar to PSG.
The concept that a sack of sh!te could also have a whiff of class is one I find interesting, my dear sir. Care to elucidate? 🙂
Macca and others have pointed out above how much Klopp has improved Lallana. Oxlade-Chamberlain is still far from the finished article, arguably farther than he should be given how much experience he already has, but if Lallana's anything to go by I'm hopeful Klopp can do the bizzo with the Ox as well.
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