Omar Marmoush
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Most of Pedro's career goals have come in the championship.
Pedro 67 games in PL, 15 goals (4 pens) and 5 assists.
Cunha 60 games in PL, 19 goals (1 pen) and 9 assists.
Cunha's also missed 2 games in the last 2 seasons compared to Pedro's 23 to injury.
So his average position is anywhere EXCEPT CF. Got it.
Who cares where it is as long as (& if we believe) he can get the same numbers here.
Well actually....maybe not seeing as 50% of his goals look to be either pens or free kicks
So he competes with Diaz/Gakpo on the left or Mo. on the right? Of course it matters. And deduct penalties for a start because he's not taking them. And factor in it's the BL.
Why couldn't he compete with Szobo/Jota/Darwin? He's been playing up in support of Ekitite all season.
A lot of Sturridge/Suarez's work came from out wide too, just because you see a mini clip where he predominantly occupies a certain area, doesn't mean that's all he's able to do.
You're literally seeing 1265mins he's played this season crammed into 3mins.....not even!
Pedro is 2 years younger and has 23 goals in 48 games for Brighton after his move last summer.
Cunha was out injured 2,5 months this summer.
Biggest differnce is their work rate and pressing game imho.
Joao Pedro would suit us perfectly.
Yup, reading what the Wolves fans say about Cunha and basically he can only play at #10 at the required level because on the wing he just doesn’t track back and for a striker he’s not physical enough. I think Joao Pedro has a far higher ceiling.
Sometimes pressing numbers can be misleading too - someone like Marmoush may show lots of “pressing actions” per game, but in how many of these is he actually strong enough to put his body into a challenge and win the ball? Firmino did the actual physical challenge part; I think Joao Pedro does it too, not many other strikers do.
Sometimes pressing numbers can be misleading too - someone like Marmoush may show lots of “pressing actions” per game, but in how many of these is he actually strong enough to put his body into a challenge and win the ball? Firmino did the actual physical challenge part; I think Joao Pedro does it too, not many other strikers do.
Wrong. I haven't even watched his vids and you're not paying attention. Look at his heat maps - those do not compete with Szobo/Jota/Darwin as you suggest. They compete with Diaz/Gakpo/Mo. and that's not want we want from a number NINE !
The shoddy, all over the place heat maps from his last 5 games? Looks like a 2 month old child chundered all over it.
But seeing as you want to look to heat maps, compare Jota/Szobo and Marmoush through the season so far domestically.
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Omar Marmoush stats and ratings | Sofascore
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Injured?
Interesting. Jota's proves the point, since he's played mostly centre. Szobo has nothing to do with the discussion. Marmoush's proves my point - he's mainly played out on the LW, he's not a #9 ! We don't need another competing for that position. Their metrics are close.The shoddy, all over the place heat maps from his last 5 games? Looks like a 2 month old child chundered all over it.
But seeing as you want to look to heat maps, compare Jota/Szobo and Marmoush through the season so far domestically.
Diogo Jota stats and ratings | Sofascore
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Dominik Szoboszlai stats and ratings | Sofascore
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Omar Marmoush stats and ratings | Sofascore
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We are still going to go and buy him. We just love lefties !!!! they are the best.Interesting. Jota's proves the point, since he's played mostly centre. Szobo has nothing to do with the discussion. Marmoush's proves my point - he's mainly played out on the LW, he's not a #9 ! We don't need another competing for that position. Their metrics are close.
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In all competitions, only Harry Kane can match Marmoush’s 24 goal involvements from players in Europe’s top five leagues, while the Eintracht star stands alone when considering just league games. His 18 goal involvements is ahead of Kane (16), Robert Lewandowski (16), Salah (14) and Mateo Retegui (14).
His finishing has been arguably the most impressive in Europe, with his 11 goals coming from just 5.5 expected goals (xG), meaning he has scored exactly twice as many goals as he should have. His overperformance of 5.5 is comfortably greater than any other player in Europe’s big five leagues, ahead of Mason Greenwood (4.5) and Bryan Mbeumo (4.1).
One reason for Marmoush’s impressive overperformance of his xG is his set-piece prowess. He bent another free-kick into the net on Saturday in Eintracht’s win at Stuttgart, making it three games in a row in which he had scored directly from a set-piece. He became the first player from Europe’s top five leagues since Lionel Messi for Barcelona in 2019 to score from a direct free-kick in three consecutive competitive matches.
In fact, no other player from Europe’s top five leagues has scored more than one free-kick this season in all competitions, while Marmoush has those three to his name.
Marmoush often wins his own free-kicks, too. A very tricky player to mark or dispossess, he’s won 37 free-kicks this season, more than any other forward across Europe’s top five leagues.
His overall shot-conversion rate this season stands at 26.8% in the Bundesliga, with his previous best in a league campaign being 15.2% last season. It’s a big ask to keep that potency up throughout a whole season, but he could end 2024-25 with some remarkable numbers if so.
Marmoush is more than just finishing, though. He is dangerous whenever he gets on the ball, willing to carry the ball and create chances for others. Last season, Bayern Munich’s Leroy Sané (511) and Hoffenheim’s Andrej Kramaric (348) were the only forwards to total more carries (moving at least 5m with the ball) in the Bundesliga than Marmoush (323). Only the same two players recorded more than his 17 chance-creating carries, while just Sané and Freiburg’s Eren Dinkçi carried the ball further in total than him. RB Leipzig’s Loïs Openda and Hoffenheim’s Maximilian Beier were the only two to have more shots following a carry.
If that wasn’t impressive enough, as with his scoring, Marmoush has stepped it up this season. No forward has made as many as his 126 carries in the Bundesliga, none have had as many as his 16 shot-ending carries (six ahead of the next most, Openda), and only Borussia Mönchengladbach’s Tim Kleindienst (seven) has totalled more carries ending in a chance created than his six.
The latter point is also reflected in his general game, as only seven players have laid on more than his 22 chances for teammates.
A lot of those opportunities have been for strike partner Ekitiké. In fact, five of Ekitiké’s nine goals this season have come courtesy of a Marmoush assist.
Interestingly, despite his increase in goals, Marmoush has been playing fewer minutes as a striker this season than he did last term. In 2023-24, 85% of his minutes came as a striker, while in 2024-25 he has played 68% of the time up front, with 11% as a central attacking midfielder and the remaining 21% on the left.
Marmoush also throws up some interesting results in Opta’s Player Comparison tool, which looks at the output of almost 2,300 players from Europe’s top five leagues over the past 10 years. While it doesn’t measure all metrics, those it does include suggest his performances in 2024-25 match most similarly to three of Salah’s best seasons at Liverpool, as well as Messi’s 2014-15 campaign. Not bad company, we’re sure you’ll agree.
His over performance on xG seriously suggests regression to the mean and that someone's in for a huge overpay.
Either he's the next global superstar or some unlucky sporting director is about to buy themselves a whole heap of regret.
Either he's the next global superstar or some unlucky sporting director is about to buy themselves a whole heap of regret.
Agent Salah 😉
Lots of noises from Germany seem to indicate our interest is real - however if something happens on that front, it would be in the summer, not January.
xG doesn't mean his average, it means all strikers average, which means he's currently scoring twice as many goals as you'd expect an average striker to score. Now it's clearly a mad patch of form but regression to his mean doesn't necessarily mean regression to an average striker's mean.
What I mean is he might have the means to keep his mean above the average mean, you meanie.
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Like I said, he could be the next global superstar. I'd be surprised, but the last striker to consistently over perform his xG like this was Haaland.
We are owned by Americans - they see more value in gunmen than any other position on the pitch. Henry is going to light up a cigar in front of Edwards and just "Hey - I like that A-rab that plays for that German team ... just get him for me will ya ?"
xG means what he could reasonably be expected to score from his chances. So if he's got an xG of say 8.07 but he's scored 13 goals then he's outperforming
"An xG model uses historical information from thousands of shots with similar characteristics to estimate the likelihood of a goal on a scale between 0 and 1. For example, a shot with an xG value of 0.2 is one that we would generally expect to be converted twice in every 10 attempts." So yeah. It's average across the board.
