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Time is runnng out though and it would have been nice to have new players getting a full pre season to learn our style

It would have been nice, but given the choice between getting top players late in the window, average players early in the window, or no new players at all, I'd say option one is preferable.
 
It would have been nice, but given the choice between getting top players late in the window, average players early in the window, or no new players at all, I'd say option one is preferable.

Define top players though, as mentioned Mane,Gini and Salah were 3rd choice.

Bottom line with our squad as is we are only gonna be able to win the CL 😉
 
Yeah, it's a weird argument. Don't really know if it's down to Klopp or the recruitment team to be honest.

Let's take last season.

WF - Went for Teixeira and Gotze first. Ended up with Mane.

CM - Went for Dahoud, and then Zielinski. Ended up with Wijnaldum.

This year for the other WF spot, our long term targets were Brandt and Pulisic. Ended up with Salah.

I think there's a strong argument that the players we actually bought were the best of the bunch.

It baffles me why we've stuck to VVD and Keita when there are obviously such equally good available players around.

Wow. What to say. How do you know all this? How do you know how serious the Zielinski, Dahoud and Teixeira link were?

Klopp har been working with this team for a year and a half. He and his staff have identified what they need to improve it.... we pay him alone 7 M pound a year and his staff probably the double... And you sit behind a computer and have identified players that are probably better options... fuck me sideways. You must be some kind of genious... Have our executives not been in touch with you at all yet???
 
There is a point in there though. Seeing as Gotze and Mané are very different type of players.
 
Klopp wasnt the one to blame though. Those kind of meetings happen all the time anyway.
 
There is a point in there though. Seeing as Gotze and Mané are very different type of players.

The point being?

Snapping up an experienced german international for free doesn't rule out setting a new club record on a different type of player?
 
This is a repeat of my post from @Rosco 's thread here. ->

[article]These all lead me back to my previous concern over the calibre of our Sporting Director and the background works of the scouting/transfer committee.

If we don't sign alternatives, why is it necessarily (only/mainly) Klopp's fault? Where are the alternatives? Who suggests (most/all of) them? Are they good enough? Could it be that Klopp rejects the suggested alternatives (unlike how Rodgers 'accepted' Balotelli)? Do the transfer committee agree with Klopp's choice of alternative signings (if any) readily/skeptically (because of the reports/figures from their own sets of dossiers)?[/article]

Some of these arguments still rely on this idea that any second or third choice targets will be a waste of money.

If that's the case then the people at the club responsible for recruitment are doing it wrong.

Which is why I totally agree with @keniget 's 2nd sentence there.

I'm obviously not privy to what's happening in the background but Klopp is the easy target to blame for being stubborn with "wanting Keita and VdV only". Just because he doesn't throw his toys of of the pram like how Mourinho and Conte openly commented on their dissatisfaction with the transfer works done at their respective clubs doesn't mean we should take Klopp's word on face value.

Take Robertson for example. He doesn't seem like a Klopp suggested signing. Surely Klopp watches football from all levels and matches of different magnitude but would he know more about Robertson other LBs across the other European leagues? High chance he's a name that appeared on the list submitted by the Transfer Committee, imho. That's not to say Klopp doesn't want him or was forced to take him. Similarly, would Klopp have seen enough of Solanke (esp. given how he was frozen out at Chelsea) to be interested and ask to sign him? It just leads me to the questions I raised above. Maybe the names provided in the list doesn't interest Klopp after he has studied them?

I read on another post asking why we haven't targeted the German market the other day and I thought the same before I replied to myself - the Manager is part of the transfer committee, Sporting Director is the head of it. Ejaria may be back but we've lost Lucas, Stewart, Chirivella in the midfield. Granted, the latter duo were not involved in first team picture last season but I refuse to believe Klopp would be that thick to accept/believe that similar/decreased depth is fine, having experience football without winter break, some crazy scheduling of games, injuries suffered by the different players, as well as increased no. of games this season. Call it conspiracy theory, but Woodburn played as midfielder (in some of the preseason games) could be a Rafa style message to the men at the top or him genuinely trying to find solution for backup/alternatives.

At least, we've read how players want to play for him or decided to choose us over other clubs after talking to him. He has done more than enough (perhaps a tat too much with the Blackpool-VdV bit). The above are why I prefer to give him the benefit of doubt vs. Edwards and team.

Before anyone mention Salah, it is worth noting/asking - if Roma were not in a need to sort out their finances, how high a possibility would it be that we are still caught in a fiasco like the VdV and Keita ones, esp, with Monchi taking charge of things now?
 
My mate at the echo has just told me this:

Liverpool fans will be fuming tomorrow. Klopp has just said we don't need another centre back. We already have 4. Matip, Lovren, Klavan and Gomez.

This summer has been a fucking disaster. That's not even taking into account that Coutinho might get off.
 
My mate at the echo has just told me this:

Liverpool fans will be fuming tomorrow. Klopp has just said we don't need another centre back. We already have 4. Matip, Lovren, Klavan and Gomez.

This summer has been a fucking disaster. That's not even taking into account that Coutinho might get off.

I'd rather wait and see rather than rely on your mate.
 
Your mate at the Echo also said Keita was done 😡

The forum isn't forgiving you easily for that.
 
Your mate at the Echo also said Keita was done 😡

The forum isn't forgiving you easily for that.

Haha no he didn't. He just said that was the personal opinion of his boss.

Either way, he based his opinion most likely on information from people at the club, who were obviously over-confident and complacent.
 
I think it's come from an interview that will be released tomorrow, so Klopp has said it. Whether he means it is another matter...
Klopp is capable of talking shite at times ( see his statement at the start of the summer when we supposedly had all out transfer targets tied up) so who really knows what this means.
Time will tell I guess.
 
Klopp is capable of talking shite at times ( see his statement at the start of the summer when we supposedly had all out transfer targets tied up) so who really knows what this means.
Time will tell I guess.

I think that was just another sign of the club's complacency and over-confidence.
 
In March, Klopp said something like there'd be 4-6 signings this summer. And now suddenly he's content?
 
Klopp is capable of talking shite at times ( see his statement at the start of the summer when we supposedly had all out transfer targets tied up) so who really knows what this means.
Time will tell I guess.

I think that was just another sign of the club's complacency and over-confidence.

This is a complete misquote. He didn't say "our transfer targets are tied up" he said "our work is done" and this was probably meant to infer that they had identified all their targets. To assume anything else is a rather wishful interpretation since it was obvious at the time nothing could possibly have been tied up and most certainly multiple deals couldn't have been !
 
Lets cling on to a bit of hope, could there be any truth in the theory that we're waiting to see if we qualify for the champions league before committing to some targets?
 
Lets cling on to a bit of hope, could there be any truth in the theory that we're waiting to see if we qualify for the champions league before committing to some targets?
And what if we get knocked out because we haven't invested in the squad? This whole summer has been a bumbling clusterfuck.
 
And what if we get knocked out because we haven't invested in the squad? This whole summer has been a bumbling clusterfuck.
Typical fan hyperbole. If we end up, come the end of the transfer window (Southampton are not going to make it easy for us now are they) with Salah, Solanke, Robertson, VVD + A.N.Other (Gerrard seems to hint there's maybe 2 signings to come) then what will we be saying ?

If we don't then I'll be of the same opinion as you .. but we aren't there yet.
 
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