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No More transfers..
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As I say, he can play in the middle, Modo.
Who was wrong? about what?
Yeah, I got that but he's primarily a winger from what I've seen and his strengths are also geared towards playing on the wing.
He looks pretty shit in the middle hence why wenger has put him back on the wing.
Well, we won't be buying him as a winger. He wants to play centrally and, if we do happen to sign him, I imagine that's what's would have been discussed. It's why he wants to leave Arsenal in the first place.
OK.
If that's the case, then bring him on cause I'm not at all confident that we're gonna keep Coutinho.
Most forums are going ape about transfers, Meltdown Monday as someone put it.
I still think there are deals on hold until we have played the 2 Hoffenheim ties. If we are in the Champions League on 24th August we will have a busy week ahead but if we crash out then that could be curtains for us. No pressure then.
I still think there are deals on hold until we have played the 2 Hoffenheim ties. If we are in the Champions League on 24th August we will have a busy week ahead but if we crash out then that could be curtains for us. No pressure then.
I would really like a big combative CM (pretty much like everyone else) but where does all this guff about being thin on resources in midfield come from?
Assuming were playing the same way as last year we have 3 spots up for grabs, for which Henderson, Can, Coutinho, Lallana, Grujic and Wijnaldum will all compete. Im not sure were keeping them all happy even with the increased number of games - and that's before we even throw Milner, Ejaria and Wilson into the mix (clearly not likely midfield personnel, but certainly options for cup games).
So isnt it more "not the right type", than "not the right number" of options.
Assuming were playing the same way as last year we have 3 spots up for grabs, for which Henderson, Can, Coutinho, Lallana, Grujic and Wijnaldum will all compete. Im not sure were keeping them all happy even with the increased number of games - and that's before we even throw Milner, Ejaria and Wilson into the mix (clearly not likely midfield personnel, but certainly options for cup games).
So isnt it more "not the right type", than "not the right number" of options.
Coates was fresh off being awarded the most promising young player of the Copa America tournament as well. Really had high hopes for him then.
And Sahin was a weird one from Rodgers. Seems that the club loaned him in with Rodgers not really knowing which position he was most efficient at (Klopp criticized this too back then
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I think most of us were pointing out that there were and will be alternative signings. The reason behind listing the links was not to discuss or argue about which signings would have worked or speak in hindsight but rather to point out that we have moved on from previous targets before.
As @keniget pointed out the TC's work is questionable if they are unable to come out with a comprehensive list of alternatives or find it so difficult to find players who can improve the current squad. That's our, or at least, my main concern. To anyone who suggest/thinks that it's Klopp who insists on those two names only, my reply is the list of queries I raised in my previous post 1-2 page earlier.
I'd say we'd also be signing Ox as a WB in a 3-4-3 system.
I see that. My point was that a player mentioned as a target for Liverpool is not neccesary a target for Liverpool after all. He might catch our interest, and the interest is leaked to the press from somewhere, and then we have a closer look at him and decides that he ain't something we will spend time on.
When it comes to VVD and Keita it is quite obvious that Klopp have decide don that he really wants them. You don't prepare a world record bid for a defender, or smash the Club record by 100% if they were just to odd alternatives. They are most probably two names that we have decied a all or nothing on. We have failed in our bids (and it is easy to Call us amateurs but the clubs just don't want to sell them) so we will have to reshuffle the mindset and see what we do. Do we find another midfielder covering the same amount of grass or whatever key skill Klopp look for, then I am sure they will be considered.
It's pretty much how I hear Klopp speak most of the time... mumbled garbage.
You can't pick and choose which press reports you believe
Sure you can. SoccerItalia revealing sensational stuff on Zielinki is a report you can choose to take with a pinch of salt. While others are more reliable.
The players himself saying we were negotiating?
Which brings us back to my questioning of the TC's work. Were these 2 players only identified as main targets in July? So the TC only works during transfer windows? Are we saying that from the various league across the world and thousands of players there aren't any single player better or suitable? Prepared the bid but no official bidding, why though? It is convenient to point the finger or analysis from Klopp's point of view because the likes of Mike Gordon and Michael Edwards hasn't been mentioned as often in the press. It will be naive to think Klopp has the 100% say in everything relating to transfers.
Anyway, to reiterate my point, its not like Football Manager where you just scout, make a bid, offer a contract and seal the deal. The Sporting Director and TC's work is much more than that and I think it is quite clear the performance hasn't been encouraging.
Worth noting that there were quotes in Zielinski's case. Anyway I think @Fabio is referring more to how you refer to the press to the advantage of your post/argument. 😛 Is there an official barometer of which tabloid is most accurate?
The player Saud (again according to a unreliable Source, and I spend a lot of time in Italy so I know the meaning of the Word unreliable!!)
"There is a lot of truth in rumours about Liverpool,” Zielinski told Sportowe Fakty in Poland.
“Jurgen Klopp is interested in me, we had some talks"
This is an Empoli player looking to use the Euro's to find a path away from Empoli. A statement that Klopp has talked to him (God knows in what context they talked... For all we know they met in a football dinner or something were Klopp gave him a compliment). A bit far away from negotiating?
It's also a massive leap to assume at the time of links that there was nothing in it
Perhaps klopp met with Van dijk to see how his family is?
The TC is dubious. I don't like it at all. As I assume the manager, and his staff which he often describes as parts of him, probably have quite in depth analysis of each player they want. If we i.e. identified lack of goals as a huge challenge a transfer comitee should look at goalscorers like i.e. Lukaku. Maybe even look at the idea of financing the deal. While Klopp and staff would look at Lukaku and see that he never has covered more then 8,5 K pr game in any season (It is a number I made up for the eaxample). Hence for Klopp and staff Lukaku is not the answer to more goals (in this example) as we can't have one player playing different system than the others.
PS Italian Sources are officially bottom of all barometers ;-)
Without a shadow of doubt the VVD link is more accurate than the Zielinski link!
But does he need to be over the board positive and defensive about everything we do. I guess that is his personality. At this tate, when Coutinho leaves and we struggle for replacement, he is going to walk up to the press conference grinning and assure us that Ojo is better than him.
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Fucking ecstatic. Really.
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I think i'd be fairly content too. Ecstatic would be Keita over Oxlaid.
Are you turning into Yoda?
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