Disaster if he is claiming Moreno is like a new signing
No More transfers..
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I don't mind trusting a season on young players if there was a larger strategy in place. A group of highly talented youngsters bought up on Klopp football philosophy - La Masia style. But that is not the case here.
The above 6 players look decent and seem to have some positive attributes. But I don't think they look that special that we should abandon our transfers in the fear of these players not being given time to develop.
I'd like a CB and CM that are both automatic starters.. but I don't want us to sign additional players just to increase squad numbers. Klavan type signings in midfield can fuck off.
Klavan type signings in any position can fuck off.
We'll get van Dijk (I hope) but that will probably be that unless Leipzig decides to cash in.
With Gruijc adding to our midfield options, I dont want to sign anyone who isnt an automatic starter.
But its very underwhelming.
Its not like these (ITKs) have much clue, but it wouldnt surprise me if we've fucked up
several deals by low balling and offering way below asking prices and payment structures.
If our window ends without more signings, Edwards needs to be relieved of his duties.
With Gruijc adding to our midfield options, I dont want to sign anyone who isnt an automatic starter.
But its very underwhelming.
Its not like these (ITKs) have much clue, but it wouldnt surprise me if we've fucked up
several deals by low balling and offering way below asking prices and payment structures.
If our window ends without more signings, Edwards needs to be relieved of his duties.
This is Klopp. He would rather that Moreno win the league with Liverpool than another left back we buy does it, unlike many of the fans that genuinley rather would see another left back win the league for us. And before people say he can't win it take a look at the CL winning team. Plenty say that i.e. Biscan and Baros will never win you anything.
He will work with what he got until the player he really want comes by. It doesn't mean everyone get a chance. He moves om the ones he don't see fit to produce his thoughts on the field. Anyway, Klopp is our biggest star by far, and so far he has lifted quite a few of our players to look good. In many ways it is refreshing to the ever search for a guy that isn't here already.
He will work with what he got until the player he really want comes by. It doesn't mean everyone get a chance. He moves om the ones he don't see fit to produce his thoughts on the field. Anyway, Klopp is our biggest star by far, and so far he has lifted quite a few of our players to look good. In many ways it is refreshing to the ever search for a guy that isn't here already.
As Rosco has been saying, there have been some quality deals that have gone down this summer.
Kessie, Tielemans may have been just as good as Keita and they went for a fraction of his price.
Kovacic is actively looking for a new club, perhaps on loan. We should be all over that. Versatile player, powerful and skilful, and yet with a lot of potential. Could be a Keita alternative, a Lallana alternative, and possibly even a long-term Coutinho replacement.
Klopp's talking about the 'running through the world with open eyes'. What does this mean? So far, Edwards & co. seem to have missed out on the blindingly obvious.
Kessie, Tielemans may have been just as good as Keita and they went for a fraction of his price.
Kovacic is actively looking for a new club, perhaps on loan. We should be all over that. Versatile player, powerful and skilful, and yet with a lot of potential. Could be a Keita alternative, a Lallana alternative, and possibly even a long-term Coutinho replacement.
Klopp's talking about the 'running through the world with open eyes'. What does this mean? So far, Edwards & co. seem to have missed out on the blindingly obvious.
Klopp has clearly lifted the team (squad) to a higher level by the use of intelligent team tactics, man management and training (even though there may be side-effects to the later).
However even that has a limit and although he has made two undeniably exciting signings in Salah and Solanke (without getting carried away too much) and one we hope is promising in Robertson, and even allowing for the current infusion of young blood to the first team in the form of AA, without the injection of players with a higher ceiling than current incumbents in certain positions there is clearly a limit that will be well below winning the PL and a squad that in certain positions is going to struggle to last a full season of 4 competitions.
We are nowhere near the 6-7 players (3-4 first teamers) I mentioned post-season we require to challenge.
However even that has a limit and although he has made two undeniably exciting signings in Salah and Solanke (without getting carried away too much) and one we hope is promising in Robertson, and even allowing for the current infusion of young blood to the first team in the form of AA, without the injection of players with a higher ceiling than current incumbents in certain positions there is clearly a limit that will be well below winning the PL and a squad that in certain positions is going to struggle to last a full season of 4 competitions.
We are nowhere near the 6-7 players (3-4 first teamers) I mentioned post-season we require to challenge.
The problem seems to be that we dont have the right people in charge to get those signings he want.
No - we had no chance with him. He was going to sign for a team where he could play for 2-3 years ad then move to a team like us (or bigger). He made a really smart career move.
People flashing 70 Million pounds in front of Leipzig? What more can you do....?
We have plenty talent. Klopp looks for clear starters.
We're known to be amateurs when it comes to closing these deals.
that he is - but he wanted to go to a place which guaranteed his spot (he obvious didn't feel that was a possibility for big clubs in the big leagues, and as a spring to the big move. He would have been a good signing but I think - again - he's been advised really well, and moving to Monaco should allow him to continue his trajectory ...
I think in the case of this one particular player we've been a victim of an overzealous & overconfident agency pimping their player.
Reading between the lines it seems the agency claimed that they knew RB would sell at 70m & that we needed to go through the motions to get the player on board publicly, who obv wanted to come, & let RB make a public spectacle of fighting hard to keep him.
These public displays are commonplace in football so I don't blame them so much for that.
However I suspect it's a bit of niaveity on behalf of the men at the very top. Whilst the CEO of a club rarely is involved in negotiations, I have no doubt most chairmen or CEO's speak to their counterparts privately to get assurances during these type of overly public negotiations, whereas we just seemingly took the third party's word that they would capitulate.
IMO we definitely need someone in & around our negotiating table who knows football enough to know how to back channel when necessary, between this & the VVD saga it's clear they don't even know the meaning of back channel, never mind how important it is during player negotiations.
In attack and mids I think we're fine for the season. But at the very least we need to sign VVD (or another top quality CB). If we don't, we can forget about top 4.
I just hope it's not VVD or no other CB for Klopp because there are SO many around Europe that will instantly improve our defence.
If we fail to sign VVD and don't want to get another CB or it becomes too late in the transfer window. I blame Klopp.
I just hope it's not VVD or no other CB for Klopp because there are SO many around Europe that will instantly improve our defence.
If we fail to sign VVD and don't want to get another CB or it becomes too late in the transfer window. I blame Klopp.
It never fails to amaze me that some people think that unless a manager says 'We desperately need to sign more players,' he isn't interested in signing more players. Maybe a manager might indeed say that if he managed Peterborough, or was Rafa, but generally, among the top managers at the top clubs, you'll pursue targets whilst talking up the positives of what you already have. Of course there will be more signings.
After the VVD issues the usual hacks have been tight lipped about our activities. Who knows what players we've actually inquired about?
I'd rather utilise the younger players than buy players who'd only do a job for a year then struggle to get shut of in 2 years time. When we have our primary targets.
I'd rather utilise the younger players than buy players who'd only do a job for a year then struggle to get shut of in 2 years time. When we have our primary targets.
I agree completely with the last sentence, in theory, but perhaps not in practice this coming season thanks to the increase in games we face.
That's almost certainly the gamble Klopp took last season & it worked cos we got champions league footy without buying stopgap players.
It's much trickier this season though, cos we need more players thanks to the increase in games, & we also need a few better players for the first team.
Ideally we'd get our primary targets & the players they replace fill the squad.
However it seems those primary targets may be a no go, yet we still need numbers & a couple of first team players to boot.
That means we have a problem if we steadfastly refuse to buy players who won't improve the first team, because we're gonna end up short a few players, which means we risk our league form & dropping out of the cl places again, which means we definitely won't get our primary targets next summer.
So do we buy average players at average prices to bolster the squad, stick with what we have & hope for a remarkably injury free season combined with youngsters exceeding expectations, or go for our second, third or fourth choice targets at a considerable cost, on expensive contracts, despite knowing we may want to shift them in favour of our primary targets in a year's time?
It's far from a simple choice, & I'm not sure I even have an opinion about what to do, other than the fact that not adding to the squad is not an option.
Like you'd ever say your player was shit if you wanted to flog him though. Standard psychology shit
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Yeah, it's a weird argument. Don't really know if it's down to Klopp or the recruitment team to be honest.
Let's take last season.
WF - Went for Teixeira and Gotze first. Ended up with Mane.
CM - Went for Dahoud, and then Zielinski. Ended up with Wijnaldum.
This year for the other WF spot, our long term targets were Brandt and Pulisic. Ended up with Salah.
I think there's a strong argument that the players we actually bought were the best of the bunch.
It baffles me why we've stuck to VVD and Keita when there are obviously such equally good available players around.
I'm not buying this "we have a new left-back" talk. Moreno has always been lively going forward, but he is prone to defensive cock-ups and leaving the left-back area wide open when the opposition counter-attack. Milner manages to get forward without neglecting his defensive duties.
As soon as Moreno starts costing us points, we will realise that we haven't got a new left-back after all.
As soon as Moreno starts costing us points, we will realise that we haven't got a new left-back after all.
Gonna love it will be revealed shortly before the Watford match that Sakho will be returning to the lineup, having been on the receiving end of a mega-psychological lesson of honing defensive arts by the club constantly leaking info that we were after VVD when in fact, no, that was the brilliance of Klopp making us all think we're in for another CB when what he actually did was transform a player we already have.
I'm inclined to agree.
I don't mind parking the Keita money for a year until he becomes available.
A top CB is crucial however.
The squad just isn't strong enough to compete on all fronts this season and still have success. A couple of injuries to key players in any part of the team and we're struggling again. It would be no surprise if we exited the FA Cup early again because some of the fringe players and younger ones aren't competitive enough.
And managers speaking about players coming back from injury or loss of form being like new signings really means we couldn't get rid of them and get someone better in.
And managers speaking about players coming back from injury or loss of form being like new signings really means we couldn't get rid of them and get someone better in.
Van dijk would be like a new signing if we can get the deal done.
The idea that Moreno could start for the club in a competitive matchafter spending 12 months on the naughty step is a bit mental
He says Robertson needs time to develop , Klopp obviously knows a Moreno performance is decided by the flip of the coin yet seems to think between the two of them , they will allow Milner will be playing in midfield again this season...
It's a bit of a concern that you can spend £8m and still feel that you haven't addressed the problem a week before the new season starts. As things stand , James Milner is without a shadow of a doubt STILL our lost competent left back.
He says Robertson needs time to develop , Klopp obviously knows a Moreno performance is decided by the flip of the coin yet seems to think between the two of them , they will allow Milner will be playing in midfield again this season...
It's a bit of a concern that you can spend £8m and still feel that you haven't addressed the problem a week before the new season starts. As things stand , James Milner is without a shadow of a doubt STILL our lost competent left back.
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Time is runnng out though and it would have been nice to have new players getting a full pre season to learn our style
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