New tv deal

[Hansern]

Ian McIntosh was a guest yesterday in the Premier league studio over here.
He said that the new tv deal that will come into effect next season will see the bottom club of the 13/14 season recieve as much prize money as City got for winning it last season.

If that is true the Premier League will be even stronger compared to other European leagues and we'll continue to see lower placed clubs getting very good players due to finiancial strenght.

 

[Woland]

I think I only like footy coz of this board now.

But yeah I guess I'm vicariously delighted that hundreds more young idiots will become big in new money.

 

[Frogfish]

... and players and their agents will be asking for even more dosh - God help us.

The money in the game now is just disgusting. Blame Sky for everything.

 

[gkmacca]

At least ESPN and their stupid al fresco panel are on the way out. Apart from that: boo!

 

[Hansern]

I think I only like footy coz of this board now.

But yeah I guess I'm vicariously delighted that hundreds more young idiots will become big in new money.

Thats a very good point Woland. I absolutly hate todays football and your average stupid multi millionaire young players.
At some point a lot of clubs will just vanish from the face of the earth when the money stops coming in.

 

[FoxForceFive]

It'll also mean that the newly promoted clubs may well 'invest' heavily in players, knowing full well it'll be worth it if the finish above those top three spots.

If they don't, however, they'll be in the shit.

 

[Mystic]

I think Tony Fernandes got the dates mixed up and thought it started last summer.

 

[tony]

It'll also mean that the newly promoted clubs may well 'invest' heavily in players, knowing full well it'll be worth it if the finish above those top three spots.

If they don't, however, they'll be in the shit.

Massive parachute payments for 3 years make up to some extent for relegation

 

[peterhague]

... and players and their agents will be asking for even more dosh - God help us.

The money in the game now is just disgusting. Blame Sky for everything.

Blame the people who subscribe to Sky.

If enough fans wanted a return to the old days they could band together and boycott the tv companies, but they don't so they won't.

 

[keniget]

I don't want a return to the old days. I want every game beamed into my house.

 

[the count]

I don't want a return to the old days. I want every game beamed into my house.

As Randy Travis would say, "It's only a matter of time"

 

[peterhague]

Who's Randy Travis??

 

[the count]

Who's Randy Travis??

Ever heard of Google?
Not many people know about it but it a bit like the "Hitchhicker guide to the Galaxy

 

[Mors]

The owners will love this, this is probably what they knew was coming. It'll start paying back their investment.
With more money coming in, does that mean player prices go up and they earn a bigger salary? I fckn hope not. Need a salary cap and financial fair play to come in. But where does the money go then? I presume straight in the owners pockets.

 

[peterhague]

Ever heard of Google?
Not many people know about it but it a bit like the "Hitchhicker guide to the Galaxy

Oh, you bitch.

 

[hmmmmm1]

At least ESPN and their stupid al fresco panel are on the way out. Apart from that: boo!

But now we will have to get BT vision box to watch footy as they have ESPN rights

 

[the count]

Oh, you bitch.

😛

 

[Red Astaire]

Blame the people who subscribe to Sky.

If enough fans wanted a return to the old days they could band together and boycott the tv companies, but they don't so they won't.

😳

 

[peterhague]

Actuall I don't have any problem with high subscription charges. Watching football on TV is a socially neutral activity, IMO undeserving of subsidy. The real problem is ticket prices, because going to the match could be said to have a beneficial effect on local communities, and so there could be an argument for keeping them artificially low.

Two things I'd say about that: one, I'm not sure why prices have risen, because there's no obvious connection between rising TV prices and rising ticket prices - if anything, they're competing products. Two, exactly how quickly have they been rising? I'm not totally sure it's as steep as you might think. I remember paying (I think) £27 for a ticket in 2000. What is it now? About £40? The inflation rate in the economy as a whole would translate to about £37.

 

[peterhague]

😳

Capitalist pig dog.

 

[Red Astaire]

Capitalist pig dog.

And proud of it - You.... You..... Accountant you!

 

[peterhague]

And proud of it - You.... You..... Accountant you!

I prefer to think of myself as an entrepeneur, thank you.

 

[Hansern]

Didnt the away fans traveling to the Emirates pay from 62 £ on upwards? Insane

 

[peterhague]

Didnt the away fans traveling to the Emirates pay from 62 £ on upwards? Insane

That's London for you.

 

[Red Astaire]

Didnt the away fans traveling to the Emirates pay from 62 £ on upwards? Insane

There a general tax on entering London - Quite right too.

 

[Rael]

Didnt the away fans traveling to the Emirates pay from 62 £ on upwards? Insane

At this week’s away matches, against Arsenal and Manchester City, the Liverpool Supporters' Union, will start a campaign highlighting the increasing cost of ticket prices for away supporters and proposing a £25 flat rate for all supporters at away games.

Last week, a delegation from the Union's Management Committee attended a Football Supporters' Federation (FSF) meeting in Manchester, along with representatives from other clubs who were also challenging the alarming increase of ticket prices. It is hoped last week's meeting will be the start of co-ordinated action between clubs in the North West and around the country. We will be working alongside the FSF to progress this.

To make the 'Football Cartel' sit up and take notice we have to take action. At The Emirates this week, leaflets will be distributed highlighting the disproportionate increases in ticket prices and telling supporters how they can get involved in the campaign. Please take these leaflets when they are given out and also make sure friends and fellow supporters read them.

At Arsenal we'll also be distributing posters to be held up during the game highlighting our anger and concern at these rising prices. We need all supporters who are angry about the continuing increases, who have discussed it in the pub or who have raised it direct with the Union to make sure they play their part in spreading the message. So hold the posters up at every opportunity to ensure maximum coverage - before the game and at corners near to the away end.

These actions are just the start of our campaign. This is the beginning of a long road to take on the football cartel. So play your part and make your voices heard because £nough is £nough.

http://www.spiritofshankly.com/news/football-without-fans-is-nothing-the-campaign-starts-now

 

[Frogfish]

Blame the people who subscribe to Sky.

If enough fans wanted a return to the old days they could band together and boycott the tv companies, but they don't so they won't.

I don't think it's any do to with denying spectators the right to watch matches or returning to the 'old days'. It's about controlling how the money is spent. If FIFA/UEFA could come to an agreement with the European courts on finding a legitimate solution to the excess of player's wages and bonuses then more money would be retained in-house and spent on the club and it's facilities, raising the quality of viewing for match-going supporters and putting more clubs on a more secure financial footing.

Idealistic day dreaming perhaps but it's not as if UEFA haven't, half-heartedly, tried this before. With Euro-wide support from the clubs maybe there would be a better chance of success.

 

[Fallon]

Designated % of turnover is the only way I can see that a wage cap will be brought in. The big boys would still have the advantage.

 

[peterhague]

I don't think it's any do to with denying spectators the right to watch matches or returning to the 'old days'. It's about controlling how the money is spent. If FIFA/UEFA could come to an agreement with the European courts on finding a legitimate solution to the excess of player's wages and bonuses then more money would be retained in-house and spent on the club and it's facilities, raising the quality of viewing for match-going supporters and putting more clubs on a more secure financial footing.

Idealistic day dreaming perhaps but it's not as if UEFA haven't, half-heartedly, tried this before. With Euro-wide support from the clubs maybe there would be a better chance of success.

I could pretty much guarantee that the only people to benefit from a wage cap would be the owners. I haven't actually got a problem with the current distribution of the money - I think the players deserve their riches. As I said, ticket prices are the problem.

 

[Woland]

If the owners as a group are stupid enough to live beyond their means paying out mental sums of money to average footy players then that's their issue. I don't think there is a definite correlation between wages and quality. I mean there is within a league, but not across them. In the Spanish league, everyone outside the top 2 is skint, most of the players in the rest of the league earn less than what you can earn in our second tier, yet most of those clubs would beat a similarly placed English team, all of which pay every player shitloads of money.

The English league's money distribution model rewards mediocrity.