I don't agree. He cannot hold his own defensively in that three player midfield. Others must compensate. Not that it isn't a team game, mind you.
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I don't agree. He cannot hold his own defensively in that three player midfield. Others must compensate. Not that it isn't a team game, mind you.
Probably already been said, but this would be somewhat of a sideways move for Moises. He's best staying put.
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Absolute no brainer - even on a free, I still wouldn’t sign him!!
I hope tonight changed your mind.
He was very good today.
Caicedo is a DM primarily.
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/410175/Show/Moisés-Caicedo
Transfermarkt also has him as a DM for Brighton this season
17 games
13 as DM / 4 as CM
If I’ve googled the right one he’s played 43 club games and zero international. No chance he gets a work permit.
Martinelli says hi.
Caicedo says hi.
So too does Vini Jr, Rodrygo and Endrick.
Unless I've missed something and the rules are different for LFC?
Caicedo was a full international before he signed for Brighton.
Martinelli has an Italian passport.
I don’t quite know what impact you think the rules in Spain have to the rules in England for permits - but none would be the answer.
So close..
Your last 3 don't play in England. Spain play by their own rules. They have "Non-EU" Quotas.
To maintain their permits they need to play x amount of games.
Caideco only had a couple of caps though before Brighton bought him.
You have missed things.
Wasn’t he loaned to a European team?
Right, so we just need him to make an appearance for Brazil and he'd be granted a work permit just like that?
I don't know the full criteria because we've only signed a few players that fell under this scenario.
Some get granted them via EU countries whick we would’ve allowed. Now it’s a little more problematic.
Transfermarkt cannot possibly do the level of granular analysis to distinguish a DM from CM in most games. Their position stats can be useful to see how many times a winger played on the opposite flank, for example, but not so much in a case like this. For me Caicedo is a defensive-minded 8 who can also cover at DM if needed.
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It’s not my fault you’re fucking stupid.
The UK applies a points based system - to which playing a percentage of international games contributes to the threshold for getting a permit.
So yes - if a prospective young South American signing had played for his country it’s likely they’ll stand a good chance - especially if it’s Brazil, or Argentina.
For Brazil, if they’d played in 30% or more senior internationals during the reference period, then they auto-pass for a permit.
For Caicedo, yes, playing for his national team probably gave him enough points - he would have needed to appear in 70% of internationals for an auto pass - so it’s likely that his domestic and loan minutes combined with that would have got him a permit.
We looked at Joao Gomes - a young Brazilian - but I reckon we didn’t move for him because he hasn’t got enough points, having never played for the national side.
Yeah - but not immediately - he was signed in the Jan window and stayed with Brighton till the end of the season - then did a 6 month loan at the start of the following season.
I actually think Cacidos got his permit due to playing in the Copa Libertadors for his Ecudorian club - with a couple of full international caps pushing him over the line.
He’s also 46 and retired 😉
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