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There's a clip going around of a druze village in southern Syria voting to be a part of Israel, saying that all the Druze villages in the area agree.
Either they're fucking idiots (a Muslim off shoot minority being under Israeli law? Craziness) or the 'Rebels' aren't as nice as we're being made to believe (Picking a 'healthier' poison?).
 
Iran wants to put to death some female musician for doing a video without a hijab.
Seems her 'type of music' (seemed like rock to me) is not really allowed in the Islamic society Iran's religious rulers believe in.

www.newarab.com

Iranian singer gives online concert without hijab

An Iranian singer has performed an online concert without wearing the country's mandatory hijab for women, risking the wrath of he authorities.
www.newarab.com www.newarab.com
 
Accedalyday said:
There's a clip going around of a druze village in southern Syria voting to be a part of Israel, saying that all the Druze villages in the area agree.
Either they're fucking idiots (a Muslim off shoot minority being under Israeli law? Craziness) or the 'Rebels' aren't as nice as we're being made to believe (Picking a 'healthier' poison?).
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Nothing crazy about it. Druze enjoy full rights in Israel, serve in the IDF (including some of the most elite units) and have ample political representation in Knesset. Some of the 10/7 hostages were Druze and several Druze soldiers gave their lives to protect Jewish civilians.

On the whole Syrian Druze would be far safer, not to mention more prosperous, in Israel. Remains to be seen if Israel will go to the trouble of trying to help them and thus get embroiled in the Syrian matters.
 
Violence and chaos? Surely you couldn't get more violence and chaos than what was already happening?
 
rurikbird said:
Nothing crazy about it. Druze enjoy full rights in Israel, serve in the IDF (including some of the most elite units) and have ample political representation in Knesset. Some of the 10/7 hostages were Druze and several Druze soldiers gave their lives to protect Jewish civilians.

On the whole Syrian Druze would be far safer, not to mention more prosperous, in Israel. Remains to be seen if Israel will go to the trouble of trying to help them and thus get embroiled in the Syrian matters.
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Thanks for adding more information.

The same villagers said this is not right yesterday. Based on what you're saying, and the concerns with the rebels, it seems these folks are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
 
rurikbird said:

View: https://x.com/majdkhalaf1993/status/1867358832604713061

I don’t know how it will end… but I really wish them success.
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I've seen a ton of comments around this, re how will it end.
Lots of ppl have said leave em to it, let them enjoy the freedom before they start to think about the future.
It's certainly a jubilant mood in many of the cities at the moment.

The scenes from the prisons were evil. People tortured to the point they didn't know their own names.

I suppose it should be celebrated that an evil dictator have been ousted.

However, Turkish backed rebels in the north,
American backed taking their bits. IDF incursions and I'm sure many others inc UAE wanting involvement then it doesn't look good for the future.
 
Accedalyday said:
Iran wants to put to death some female musician for doing a video without a hijab.
Seems her 'type of music' (seemed like rock to me) is not really allowed in the Islamic society Iran's religious rulers believe in.

www.newarab.com

Iranian singer gives online concert without hijab

An Iranian singer has performed an online concert without wearing the country's mandatory hijab for women, risking the wrath of he authorities.
www.newarab.com www.newarab.com
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Good news - released.
I wonder why ...
 
The news from Sudan gets worse ...

www.aljazeera.com

Dozens of civilians killed in two days of intense fighting in Sudan

More people killed in North Darfur and Greater Khartoum attacks as fighting between the army and the RSF turns bloodier.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com

www.aljazeera.com

At least nine killed in drone attack on hospital in Sudan’s Darfur

The Rapid Support Forces have been blamed for an attack on the last remaining hospital in the city of el-Fasher.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com

At least one leader is trying to end this madness ... Are there any more caring leaders out there than Erodgan!?

www.aljazeera.com

Turkiye’s Erdogan offers to mediate in Sudan-UAE disputes

The Sudanese army accuses the UAE of providing weapons to its rival, the Rapid Support Forces paramilitary group.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
 
Lots of reports of the gas pipeline now continuing from Qatar to Turkey via Syria.
It was stopped by Assad.
Turkey helping to bin Assad helps them.
Not sure I'd call Erdoğan a caring leader, there's always gotta be something in it. Not sure he's really our here being a benevolent leader for peace and justice.
Plus I'm sure the Kurds defo wouldn't call him caring
 
Remember Rafah was a red line once upon a time.
As was killing aid workers, there was some chatter after the world kitchen and workers were murdered a few months back, few weeks ago another 2 were killed.. nothing.
Aid was a red line before the election, Israel continued to stop aid white house did nothing.
 
www.bbc.co.uk

How Facebook restricted news in Palestinian territories

Palestinian news outlets have seen a steep drop in audience engagement since October 2023.
www.bbc.co.uk


The BBC has also seen leaked documents showing that Instagram - another Meta-owned platform - increased its moderation of Palestinian user comments after October 2023.
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There was a report recently also around the use of WhatsApp as part of Israeli AI usage to target people they call it Lavender.

The head of policy for Israeli and Jewish diaspora was chief of staff for Netanyahu for quite a while and championed as the the advance in dialogue for state of Israeli and FB.

Rohingyans have previously sued FB for their role in amplifying hate against them in Myanmar.
The Brit govt obviously comfortable calling the atrocities against Rohingyas ethnic cleansing and genocide.
 

View: https://x.com/NathanThrall/status/1869644665974403221


Haaretz having spoken to former and current IDF soldiers report soldiers condemned as cowards for not killing innocent people, soldiers filling bodies with bullets, anyone crossing a specific line gets a hole in the head, terrorist or not.

So much for the human shield
So much for israel moral army
Lies and manipulation to allow the murder, genocide and ethnic cleansing of a people.
 

Another Haaretz piece.

The power they received in the army was intoxicating: "It's like a drug ... you feel like you are the law, you make the rules. As if from the moment you leave the place called Israel and enter the Gaza Strip, you are God." They viewed brutality as an expression of strength and masculinity.


"I have no problem with women. One threw a slipper at me, so I gave her a kick here (pointing to the groin), broke all this here. She can't have children today."

"X shot an Arab four times in the back and got away with a self-defense claim. Four bullets in the back from a distance of ten meters ... cold-blooded murder. We did things like that every day."
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Some followers who committed atrocities reported moral injuries: "I felt like, like, like a Nazi ... it looked exactly like we were actually the Nazis and they were the Jews."
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"A new commander came to us. We went out with him on the first patrol at six in the morning. He stops. There's not a soul in the streets, just a little 4-year-old boy playing in the sand in his yard. The commander suddenly starts running, grabs the boy, and breaks his arm at the elbow and his leg here. Stepped on his stomach three times and left. We all stood there with our mouths open. Looking at him in shock ... I asked the commander: "What's your story?" He told me: These kids need to be killed from the day they are born. When a commander does that, it becomes legit."
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Why would they?
Don't we know that the most humane IDF is only defending itself from Hamas, human shields and animals?
Nothing to report or talk about here
 
Has anyone followed this Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib fellow?
Palestinian who grew up in Gaza, and lost numerous relatives in an IDF bombing.
He criticizes Israel and IDF routinely, accusing them of deliberately excessive bombing etc but the below are points of view I've not really encountered from Gazans.
Wonder how close his stance is to the truth?

Before 10/7, Gaza had options and possibilities to address the economic, humanitarian, and political hardships and problems. Gaza had even shopping malls, sprawling beaches, vibrant communities, art centers, restaurants, and food everywhere, and a functional infrastructure that provided enough for people to survive and, in some cases, even thrive. Hamas deliberately threw all of that away and destroyed the people of Gaza with no way out and no exit plan. Every single member of Hamas’s leadership must be tried and convicted of crimes against the Palestinian people; they must be delegitimized, shamed, and held accountable for high treason against Palestinian interests and, importantly, for cowardly behavior like fighting in civilian clothes and hiding among women and children in tents, schools, and hospitals.
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Hamas didn’t want to be lonely as they faced the Israeli military and wanted to bring down as many Palestinian civilians with them as they could - again, counting on mass suffering as a way to delegitimize Israel and high casualties which generate high pressure on the Israeli government to ultimately stop the war. Now that this nefarious calculus has failed miserably and the Palestinian civilian population in northern Gaza is paying an unimaginably high price, Hamas isn't exactly adjusting course either. The group is despicably and ruthlessly exploiting the civilian deaths that their actions caused and brought upon to keep the focus on Israel and avoid the reckoning that Hamas will inevitably face when the war is brought to an end.
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The tragedy in Jabaliya and elsewhere in northern Gaza, where the population is experiencing famine-like conditions, merciless Israeli bombardments and attacks, and sustained pain and suffering, could have been entirely avoided. Instead of working to protect lives, as should be the priority in warfare, Hamas and its cheerleaders wanted to hide behind the civilian population, which was told not to leave and to “hold the land.”
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…Hamas is a sadistic Islamist cult that loves to see its own people killed as an actual strategy.
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A common theme in the plight of the Palestinian people is the unforgivable failures of Palestinian leadership over the decades: reject deals and say no, only to make a bad losing bet and want (I would say “demand” - N.S.) what could have been achieved, obtained, or received before. It’s important to remember that a viable deal was on the table, regardless of what revisionist academics try to convince you of: a clear pathway to Palestinian Statehood that included the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, and East Jerusalem. What Yasser Arafat did by not accepting the 2000 Camp David proposal was a crime against the Palestinian people, for which there has never been any accountability. Similarly, Hamas in the 1990s and 2000s rejected the Two-state solution, only to ultimately realize that Palestinians would be lucky to even receive that, particularly after the October 7 disaster.
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