But I have seen him play Dave, loads of times.
Mertesacker to leave Werder Bremen
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[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=42729.msg1216518#msg1216518 date=1289557068]
But I have seen him play Dave, loads of times.
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[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=42729.msg1216353#msg1216353 date=1289512050]
Mate, I don't watch much English football, nevermind German football, but I know he's part of a dodgy defense.
How many teams in the Bundesliga have let in more goals than Werder Bremen this season? Just out of curiosity...
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which one is it mate? you have or you havent? i think YOU'RE abit confused
But I have seen him play Dave, loads of times.
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[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=42729.msg1216353#msg1216353 date=1289512050]
Mate, I don't watch much English football, nevermind German football, but I know he's part of a dodgy defense.
How many teams in the Bundesliga have let in more goals than Werder Bremen this season? Just out of curiosity...
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which one is it mate? you have or you havent? i think YOU'RE abit confused
LOL
I've seen him play in tournaments for Germany, Massive. I think that's where most people have seen him to be honest.
I don't watch Bundesliga matches so all I know about that is what I read, hear in podcasts or see of highlights/goals from the Bundesliga on TV.
The second comment you quoted was made 'tongue in cheek' Massive, something you probably didn't even notice because your own is permanently rammed into your bottom lip.
I've seen him play in tournaments for Germany, Massive. I think that's where most people have seen him to be honest.
I don't watch Bundesliga matches so all I know about that is what I read, hear in podcasts or see of highlights/goals from the Bundesliga on TV.
The second comment you quoted was made 'tongue in cheek' Massive, something you probably didn't even notice because your own is permanently rammed into your bottom lip.
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=42729.msg1216427#msg1216427 date=1289543307]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=42729.msg1216353#msg1216353 date=1289512050]
Mate, I don't watch much English football, nevermind German football, but I know he's part of a dodgy defense.
How many teams in the Bundesliga have let in more goals than Werder Bremen this season? Just out of curiosity...
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Since he signed for bremen in 2006, they finished:
3rd
2nd
10th
3rd
but yet you judge him after a few games into the season in a league you dont even watch. Your an idiot mate 🙂
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It's "you're".
And can you replace my broken ironymeter please.
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=42729.msg1216353#msg1216353 date=1289512050]
Mate, I don't watch much English football, nevermind German football, but I know he's part of a dodgy defense.
How many teams in the Bundesliga have let in more goals than Werder Bremen this season? Just out of curiosity...
[/quote]
Since he signed for bremen in 2006, they finished:
3rd
2nd
10th
3rd
but yet you judge him after a few games into the season in a league you dont even watch. Your an idiot mate 🙂
[/quote]
It's "you're".
And can you replace my broken ironymeter please.
[quote author=ILD link=topic=42729.msg1216496#msg1216496 date=1289555917]
Lads, Zlatan hasn't put a foot wrong in this thread so it's harsh to lambast him with the usual "massive Zlatan" tag just yet.
He is right though, Gene can't really comment on a player he hasn't seen play. His 70 caps for zee Germans is impressive and he has been decent any time i've watched him play. I'm a bit meh on the link but I wouldn't discredit it due to Werder's poor start this season.
Gene is probably half taking the piss with his stance anyway.
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I suspect, that people are taking the piss due to his previous. You shouldn't really comment on a poster based on one thread ILD? 😉
Lads, Zlatan hasn't put a foot wrong in this thread so it's harsh to lambast him with the usual "massive Zlatan" tag just yet.
He is right though, Gene can't really comment on a player he hasn't seen play. His 70 caps for zee Germans is impressive and he has been decent any time i've watched him play. I'm a bit meh on the link but I wouldn't discredit it due to Werder's poor start this season.
Gene is probably half taking the piss with his stance anyway.
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I suspect, that people are taking the piss due to his previous. You shouldn't really comment on a poster based on one thread ILD? 😉
[sub][/sub][quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=42729.msg1216688#msg1216688 date=1289565539]
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=42729.msg1216427#msg1216427 date=1289543307]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=42729.msg1216353#msg1216353 date=1289512050]
Mate, I don't watch much English football, nevermind German football, but I know he's part of a dodgy defense.
How many teams in the Bundesliga have let in more goals than Werder Bremen this season? Just out of curiosity...
[/quote]
Since he signed for bremen in 2006, they
3rd
2nd
10th
3rd
but yet you judge him after a few games into the season in a league you dont even watch. Your an idiot mate 🙂
[/quote]
It's "you're".
And can you replace my broken ironymeter please.
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you fucking cockney quiffer
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=42729.msg1216427#msg1216427 date=1289543307]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=42729.msg1216353#msg1216353 date=1289512050]
Mate, I don't watch much English football, nevermind German football, but I know he's part of a dodgy defense.
How many teams in the Bundesliga have let in more goals than Werder Bremen this season? Just out of curiosity...
[/quote]
Since he signed for bremen in 2006, they
finished:3rd
2nd
10th
3rd
but yet you judge him after a few games into the season in a league you dont even watch. Your an idiot mate 🙂
[/quote]
It's "you're".
And can you replace my broken ironymeter please.
[/quote]
you fucking cockney quiffer
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=42729.msg1216710#msg1216710 date=1289566435]
[sub][/sub][quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=42729.msg1216688#msg1216688 date=1289565539]
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=42729.msg1216427#msg1216427 date=1289543307]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=42729.msg1216353#msg1216353 date=1289512050]
Mate, I don't watch much English football, nevermind German football, but I know he's part of a dodgy defense.
How many teams in the Bundesliga have let in more goals than Werder Bremen this season? Just out of curiosity...
[/quote]
Since he signed for bremen in 2006, they
3rd
2nd
10th
3rd
but yet you judge him after a few games into the season in a league you dont even watch. Your an idiot mate 🙂
[/quote]
It's "you're".
And can you replace my broken ironymeter please.
[/quote]
you fucking cockney quiffer
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Hmmm, don't you enter a cockney on a regular basis?
[sub][/sub][quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=42729.msg1216688#msg1216688 date=1289565539]
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=42729.msg1216427#msg1216427 date=1289543307]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=42729.msg1216353#msg1216353 date=1289512050]
Mate, I don't watch much English football, nevermind German football, but I know he's part of a dodgy defense.
How many teams in the Bundesliga have let in more goals than Werder Bremen this season? Just out of curiosity...
[/quote]
Since he signed for bremen in 2006, they
finished:3rd
2nd
10th
3rd
but yet you judge him after a few games into the season in a league you dont even watch. Your an idiot mate 🙂
[/quote]
It's "you're".
And can you replace my broken ironymeter please.
[/quote]
you fucking cockney quiffer
[/quote]
Hmmm, don't you enter a cockney on a regular basis?
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=42729.msg1216689#msg1216689 date=1289565624]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=42729.msg1216496#msg1216496 date=1289555917]
Lads, Zlatan hasn't put a foot wrong in this thread so it's harsh to lambast him with the usual "massive Zlatan" tag just yet.
He is right though, Gene can't really comment on a player he hasn't seen play. His 70 caps for zee Germans is impressive and he has been decent any time i've watched him play. I'm a bit meh on the link but I wouldn't discredit it due to Werder's poor start this season.
Gene is probably half taking the piss with his stance anyway.
[/quote]
I suspect, that people are taking the piss due to his previous. You shouldn't really comment on a poster based on one thread ILD? 😉
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Pft. 😉
[quote author=ILD link=topic=42729.msg1216496#msg1216496 date=1289555917]
Lads, Zlatan hasn't put a foot wrong in this thread so it's harsh to lambast him with the usual "massive Zlatan" tag just yet.
He is right though, Gene can't really comment on a player he hasn't seen play. His 70 caps for zee Germans is impressive and he has been decent any time i've watched him play. I'm a bit meh on the link but I wouldn't discredit it due to Werder's poor start this season.
Gene is probably half taking the piss with his stance anyway.
[/quote]
I suspect, that people are taking the piss due to his previous. You shouldn't really comment on a poster based on one thread ILD? 😉
[/quote]
Pft. 😉
I asked a Russian TV sports journalist who has been covering Bundesliga for many years about Mertesacker. His response was (I am translating):
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Mertesacker plays better than his team's defense overall. When Naldo and M. play together as CBs, they more or less compensate for the team's lack of a defensive system, but when one of them is unavailable, everything crumbles. In my opinion, it's time for M. to find a better team. He has some weaknesses, due to his height and body type, but he has many more strengths. Most important ones: calmness, perseverance, good tactical understanding, and absence of unnecessary fouls. He can play in a top class team and he will look much better than in Werder. For instance, he would be very useful in Arsenal right now. There were some rumours, but in the end M. declined and they brought Scuillaci.
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So I guess if he is indeed leaving Werder, we should be very interested. He is just starting to enter his prime at 26 and can be a top CB for years to come. The only question is, I guess with Werder's leaky defense, his stats won't look too good on Sabermetricks...
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Mertesacker plays better than his team's defense overall. When Naldo and M. play together as CBs, they more or less compensate for the team's lack of a defensive system, but when one of them is unavailable, everything crumbles. In my opinion, it's time for M. to find a better team. He has some weaknesses, due to his height and body type, but he has many more strengths. Most important ones: calmness, perseverance, good tactical understanding, and absence of unnecessary fouls. He can play in a top class team and he will look much better than in Werder. For instance, he would be very useful in Arsenal right now. There were some rumours, but in the end M. declined and they brought Scuillaci.
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So I guess if he is indeed leaving Werder, we should be very interested. He is just starting to enter his prime at 26 and can be a top CB for years to come. The only question is, I guess with Werder's leaky defense, his stats won't look too good on Sabermetricks...
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I thought he was older than that.
I've always liked him.
I've always liked him.
[quote author=rurikbird link=topic=42729.msg1216898#msg1216898 date=1289586621]
I asked a Russian TV sports journalist who has been covering Bundesliga for many years about Mertesacker. His response was (I am translating):
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Mertesacker plays better than his team's defense overall. When Naldo and M. play together as CBs, they more or less compensate for the team's lack of a defensive system, but when one of them is unavailable, everything crumbles. In my opinion, it's time for M. to find a better team. He has some weaknesses, due to his height and body type, but he has many more strengths. Most important ones: calmness, perseverance, good tactical understanding, and absence of unnecessary fouls. He can play in a top class team and he will look much better than in Werder. For instance, he would be very useful in Arsenal right now. There were some rumours, but in the end M. declined and they brought Scuillaci.
====
So I guess if he is indeed leaving Werder, we should be very interested. He is just starting to enter his prime at 26 and can be a top CB for years to come. The only question is, I guess with Werder's leaky defense, his stats won't look too good on Sabermetricks...
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Yeah I'd love for us to sign him. The only problem is we don't really have a pacy partner to complement him(we should have signed his national team partner Friedrich last summer when he went for €2m) though I guess Skrtel-Mertesacker would be fine.
I asked a Russian TV sports journalist who has been covering Bundesliga for many years about Mertesacker. His response was (I am translating):
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Mertesacker plays better than his team's defense overall. When Naldo and M. play together as CBs, they more or less compensate for the team's lack of a defensive system, but when one of them is unavailable, everything crumbles. In my opinion, it's time for M. to find a better team. He has some weaknesses, due to his height and body type, but he has many more strengths. Most important ones: calmness, perseverance, good tactical understanding, and absence of unnecessary fouls. He can play in a top class team and he will look much better than in Werder. For instance, he would be very useful in Arsenal right now. There were some rumours, but in the end M. declined and they brought Scuillaci.
====
So I guess if he is indeed leaving Werder, we should be very interested. He is just starting to enter his prime at 26 and can be a top CB for years to come. The only question is, I guess with Werder's leaky defense, his stats won't look too good on Sabermetricks...
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Yeah I'd love for us to sign him. The only problem is we don't really have a pacy partner to complement him(we should have signed his national team partner Friedrich last summer when he went for €2m) though I guess Skrtel-Mertesacker would be fine.
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=42729.msg1216922#msg1216922 date=1289593932]
Great player, and would be an excellent signing.
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This
Great player, and would be an excellent signing.
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This
If we are definitely bringing in someone, i would rather we sold Skrtel than Agger.
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Squiggles
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There's not a lot in it, but Agger seems a better defender to me, however I'm sick of his injuries so I cannot say who I would rather see leave.
I do rate Metesacker very, very highly though. The lad is class and would be a great signing.
I do rate Metesacker very, very highly though. The lad is class and would be a great signing.
I don't get the Mertesacker love. He's muck.
He's as tall as a redwood, and about as quick.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42729.msg1241486#msg1241486 date=1293957301]
He's as tall as a redwood, and about as quick.
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If he's as good as Sami, we'll forgive him for his lack of pace.
He's as tall as a redwood, and about as quick.
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If he's as good as Sami, we'll forgive him for his lack of pace.
If he leaves Werder to get european football he is not coming here.
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