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Maxi Rodriguez on loan for rest of the season?

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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=38216.msg1029197#msg1029197 date=1262888562]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=38216.msg1029196#msg1029196 date=1262888491]
I'd just like to point out that Rebel is not a member of the RCDNW club.
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oh yes he is
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Thats a common misconception Rosco. He's applied numerous times, but always been rejected for reasons that are now blatantly obvious.
 
The former sight of Rebel Villas

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I'd like to go back to the point made about understanding the logic of the transfer market. I found that a little amusing because I don't think any subsequent posts have fully demonstrated that.

If you're going to be funny about it, then transfers simply can't be looked at in isolation as they always form part of some wider transfer strategy and then an even wider overall strategy for the team / club. Come the summer, the manager and co. sit down and develop the plan for next season, identify the areas they want to improve upon and the players they'd like to target. To really judge the success or failure of a transfer, you have to look at examine it within that context and then look at how everything panned out.

Now, if you take Babel as an example, then I think rebel's argument holds up. We took a punt on an exciting attacking player who, if successful, would fill a void in our team. It didn't work out, yet we're talking about recouping most of our fee. That's pretty good.

If you look at Keane, well... lets.

In terms of transfer strategy for that summer, we know that Keane cost 20M and we know that impacted on our overall transfer dealings that summer and forced our hand into going for Riera at a bit of a bargain price. He must have been identified as a priority signing because we signed him fast and for big money.

In terms of the footballing strategy, we have no idea and come the time, neither did Rafa. We have since heard mutterings of playing Keane up top with Barry on the left, but that doesn't quite stack up and sounds like bollocks. Either way, it just doesn't make sense.

The net result was that it fucked our transfers for that summer as well as having a knock on effect in later transfer windows and it fucked our squad because we were left short - not only because we sold him but because we missed out on an opportunity to strengthen to the tune of a 20M signing.

So overall, I wouldn't class that as a "mistake" a la Babel, but a shocking display of ineptitude. I would go as far as to say that it one of the worst signings in PL history and really just one of the worst I can think of in general. Clubs will have lost more money on players but when you consider the lack of foresight and the ruinous effect it's had, this is right up there.

Dossena is not quite as bad, but I wouldn't class that a mistake either. It only took a few performances for fans to become very worried about our most expensive defender ever and again, Rafa was no different as he became very very reluctant to play a player that was patently unsuited in every way. Buying a player and him not working out in the mid to long term is a mistake. Buying a player and then finding yourself unable to play them a couple months later - and that not changing till you sell him - is just unacceptable.
 
He asked for a coffee table, got one and found he needed a lamp, so he sold the coffee table on ebay, brought the lamp, but that was fucking useless too, and sold that to the second hand shop, but refused to buy a bed which was what he really needed.
But as he had sold lamp and the table, but still did not have the bed, he was a sensible man in the eyes of the care in the community man that lived next door
The Valencia thing starts to make sense

regards
 
[quote author=Fabio Alrighty-o link=topic=38216.msg1029129#msg1029129 date=1262885014]
As for Benitez knowing torres would be great. Big whoop. Other managers looked at him too and passed the chance because he didn't have a great goal ratio.
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Huh?
 
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[quote author=keniget link=topic=38216.msg1028949#msg1028949 date=1262875991]
I'd say that Agger, Arbeloa, Aurelio, Skrtel, Reina and Yossi have all proven to be decent / good signings in that price range.
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Disagree

Agger's been fit about 20% of his time here.

The rest are ordinary squad players at best. I suppose that's about the best we can expect, though.
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Not to be nitpicky but do you really consider Reina to be a squad player?
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In fact, the only player in that price range who has been a undisputed success has been Reina.

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Remember how you bitched at the signing of Reina? Waste of money seeing as we had Dudek, if I recall correctly.
 
You have better recall than me, clearly.

I also thought Masher was not a priority signing as an 18m Defensive Midfielder, I think.

I'm right very often, but not even I can be right every single time, that would make me ...a *God*

What was your fucking point again?
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=38216.msg1029043#msg1029043 date=1262881650]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=38216.msg1029039#msg1029039 date=1262881497]
relax brendan, all he's saying that every manager makes mistakes and rafa should be 'lauded' for recouping a lot of the fees he's wasted on those mistakes.
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No, he's saying that buying a shit player like Drossena for £7m and selling him 18 months later is "good management"
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Rebel - tell me that you're not saying what Brendan is saying you're saying ... That's daft. The selling part, ok. But buying a 'shit player' isn't good management.
 
Not sure if true but still:

Liverpool complete signing of Maxi Rodriguez for £1.5millionJanuary 07, 2010

Liverpool have clinched a deal to bring Atletico Madrid 's Argentine midfielder Maxi Rodriguez to Anfield, signing him on an 18 month contract.

The 29 year-old has been at Atletico Madrid since 2005 and was also rumoured to be wanted by Boca Juniors. Rodriguez will link up at Liverpool with compatriot Javier Mascherano and former team mate Fernando Torres .

Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez will be delighted to have captured Rodriguez for a knock-down price, as he had been told that he must sell before bringing in new faces at Anfield. However, Atletico were eager to sell or else face the prospect of losing the player for free when his contract expired in the summer.

Rodriguez has 32 international caps and 9 goals to his name. He is set to make his Liverpool debut in Sunday's crunch clash against fellow Champions League qualification contenders Tottenham at Anfield.

Liverpool have also set their sights on 20 year-old Nicolas Ladeiro, dubbed the 'Uruguayan Messi'
 
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=38216.msg1029055#msg1029055 date=1262882084]
Yeah miraculous management selling Keane £15m 6 months after having bought him £20M

Rafa = Jesus
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He didn't. Stop using untruths to batter Rebel (and Benitez as usual).
 
'The Uruguayan Messi'?

20 years old and no-one ever heard of him - right, sounds like Messi.
 
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[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=38216.msg1028792#msg1028792 date=1262866447]
With a decent touch though.
Hopefully he will take Kuyt's RW position
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no chance, he's our new Lw! 🙂
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That was wishfull thinking.
Yeah surely Rafa will play him at LW which is not his best position.
Our Rafa likes to play players out of position.
[/quote]Unlike say Fergie who plays Rooney at LM half the time, or Carrick ahead of Evans at CB? Or Nani on the right? Or maybe Wenger who plays Eboue at RB or Van persie at LW or Rosicky at RM? Or maybe Ancelotti who plays Ballack at DM or Lampard at LM?

Grow up Tony for fuck sake.
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Some players are more versatile than others and ManU had a major injury crisis. Carrick is a far better player than Evans, Id pick him ahead of Insua at LB if he was playing for us. Samewith Rooney.
Playing Yossi at LW is criminal, yet Rafa keeps making this mistake.

[/quote]WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH MAXI RODRIGUEZ??!?!?!? Fucking wum.
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Haha Angwy Andy...
We have no clue what Rafa is going to do with Maxi Rodriguez.
Im just making suggestions.
[/quote]Im not angry and you arent making suggestions. Youre being a ****.
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Ok, where do you think Rafa will play Maxi?
I think, in the short term he will play in the middle with Lucas. Which will confirm that buying Aquaman was another Rafa's master stroke
Then I hope he will play with Mascher in the middle behind Stevie.
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RW
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Hold on. Did that dickhead Le Chacal really say Carrick is a better centre back than Evans?

For fucks sake.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=38216.msg1029262#msg1029262 date=1262897071]
Not content with that, he'd also pick Rooney at LB if he were a Liverpool player.
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maybe rebel is benitez?

Makes sense with all his ludicrous statements about making sound signings, and how he hates the owners
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38216.msg1029256#msg1029256 date=1262896770]

Hold on. Did that dickhead Le Chacal really say Carrick is a better centre back than Evans?

For fucks sake.
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You've missed too much in this thread to even try catch up. Ha.
 
My work colleague from Madrid has said it's all over the Spanish speaking cyberfootballworld that Maxi has told his team mates that he's off to Liverpool.
 
[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=38216.msg1029339#msg1029339 date=1262905043]
let us pray his flight got cancelled
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Yes, let's fuck him off, the wanker.
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=38216.msg1029340#msg1029340 date=1262905101]
[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=38216.msg1029339#msg1029339 date=1262905043]
let us pray his flight got cancelled
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Yes, let's fuck him off, the wanker.
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Angry tone!! >🙁

Who we angry with?
 
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[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=38216.msg1029339#msg1029339 date=1262905043]
let us pray his flight got cancelled
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Yes, let's fuck him off, the wanker.
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Angry tone!! >🙁

Who we angry with?
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Everybody and everything.

It's all shit and there's no point in anything.
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=38216.msg1029287#msg1029287 date=1262899944]
Seriously, what in the blue FUCK has happened here since page 18 ?
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Yeah, i chose a bad time to go out.
 
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=38216.msg1029237#msg1029237 date=1262893776]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=38216.msg1029055#msg1029055 date=1262882084]
Yeah miraculous management selling Keane £15m 6 months after having bought him £20M

Rafa = Jesus
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He didn't. Stop using untruths to batter Rebel (and Benitez as usual).
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Think it was actually 12 million,John.
 
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