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Mascherano to Juve?

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Liverpool midfielder Javier Mascherano could be on the move in the new year, amid reports that he is unhappy at Anfield, with Italian giants Juventus understood to be readying a £23 million offer.

By Telegraph staff
Published: 9:54AM BST 09 Oct 2009


According to a report in the Mirror, the Argentine, who possesses an Italian passport, has become disillusioned with the Merseyside club since the summer departure of Xabi Alonso to Real Madrid.

Along with his former team mate, Mascherano was the topic of transfer speculation earlier this year with Barcelona eager for him to move to the Nou Camp, but at the time Rafael Benitez said he would not part with any of his big-name players.

At the time, Mascherano's agent claimed his client was keen to move clubs having "grown tired of England", and following his under-par start to the season, Juventus's interest may well prove enough to lure the 25-year-old away.

It is not the first time Juventus have expressed an interest in Mascherano having tried to sign him from West Ham three years ago before he finally settled on his move to Liverpool.
 
The World Cup, providing the Argies qualify, will be helpful in achieving a decent fee.

The writing looks on the wall, lets face it, and we are really seeing his limitations without an immensely talented ball-playing midfielder alongside him - something he's had throughout his career.

Barca looks the most likely destination, though.

Replacements: Diara, Toure, Flamini, Defour...

In which case we better get working on songs for Cattermole.
 
The worst thing is, I wouldn't be against selling him for 30 mill £.

If we got someone like Yaya Toure in to replace him, then we'd be a much better off imho.
(He's only played 2 games in La Liga this season, so maybe a cheeky bid might lure him away)
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=36371.msg960739#msg960739 date=1255203239]
*takes popcorn stand keys back from bloated comatose Peatcheo*
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*groans then falls back to corn coma*
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=36371.msg960747#msg960747 date=1255203989]
I'd snap anyone's hand off for something around £27M-30M
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Its not the 27-30 Million, its How much will a replacement of an equal or better standard costs ........... and how much the yanks will want to keep to get the debt down.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=36371.msg960753#msg960753 date=1255205404]
Yaya Toure is en-route to City so I'm told.

Mind you, I'm told a lot of shite.
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Drat !
 
If Mascher insists on going, then so be it - screw as much as we can out of the buying club and get the deal done. Some of you lot are a damn sight less bothered about losing him than I am though. Would Yaya Toure have pocketed Kaka like Mascher did in Athens, before Rafa made the mistake of his life and took Mascher off? Would Toure have monstered ManUre's midfield like Mascher did at Anfield? Would he feck. Mascher will be at least as tough to replace as Xabi, quite possibly more so.
 
Apparently Agger is the best footballer in the world.

And a unicorn.

*tut*
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=36371.msg960756#msg960756 date=1255205715]
If Mascher insists on going, then so be it - screw as much as we can out of the buying club and get the deal done. Some of you lot are a damn sight less bothered about losing him than I am though. Would Yaya Toure have pocketed Kaka like Mascher did in Athens, before Rafa made the mistake of his life and took Mascher off? Would Toure have monstered ManUre's midfield like Mascher did at Anfield? Would he feck. Mascher will be at least as tough to replace as Xabi, quite possibly more so.
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Is correct.
 
Fuck, it's time for a rebuilding cycle, when the last one was so close to bearing fruit. Awful, especially given the age of certain very deserving players.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=36371.msg960753#msg960753 date=1255205404]
Yaya Toure is en-route to City so I'm told.
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I've been told the same.
 
masch is pissed off he's having to play next to lucas and when things don't work out he gets blamed.

fuck lucas off, move gerrard back into the middle, play aquaman/yossi behind torres and masch won't want to go anywhere in the summer.

its a shame some of us don't appreciate our better players. alonso just passed the ball, now all masch does is tackle.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=36371.msg960756#msg960756 date=1255205715]
If Mascher insists on going, then so be it - screw as much as we can out of the buying club and get the deal done. Some of you lot are a damn sight less bothered about losing him than I am though. Would Yaya Toure have pocketed Kaka like Mascher did in Athens, before Rafa made the mistake of his life and took Mascher off? Would Toure have monstered ManUre's midfield like Mascher did at Anfield? Would he feck. Mascher will be at least as tough to replace as Xabi, quite possibly more so.
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Look, I love Mascher and I'm gutted it looks like he wants to leave but to say that Toure wouldn't be a worthy replacement is just myopic as fuck.

Would Macherano have been able to play at centre-back against Man U in a Champions League final and totally hold it down ?

Nope.
 
I find some of the Masher supporters a bit patronising sometimes, although I'm sure they don't mean to be.

I appreciate the role of the defensive midfielder, I grew up watching Didi master the field in his own way and was hugely impressed by what I saw, so I don't need to be told what the DM brings to a side. There are some big games where you watch him and you think he's irreplaceable (heh, although I used to think the same of Sissoko). But the thing with Mascherano is I find him too specialised for our side; for his country he's surrounded by gifted, creative ball players, as he would be if it went to Barcelona. Here, now Alonso is gone, he isn't, and it's really hurting us - and as a result, Lucas takes a lot of unfair flack simply because of Javier's limitations.

He can't dribble, pass, dictate play, etc - key attributes for any midfielder to have, whatever their role.

In certain key games he's great. Against the shite teams at Anfield who come and park a bus, I find his automatic selection a bit frustrating. So all that coupled with his desire to leave, his diving, whiny nature, means I won't be sad to see him go; especially not for a cool £30M
 
Whoah, hold up one second.

Lucas takes a lot of unfair flack because Masher is one-dimensional as fuck... and less so because he himself is just as one-dimensional (only poor on top of it)?
 
didnt we splash 20 something million on him??

If we accept anything under 30 million we are fools. Juve can sod off too.. i dont think they have the finances these days for such large transfers.
 
[quote author=gareth_thomas link=topic=36371.msg960826#msg960826 date=1255244977]
didnt we splash 20 something million on him??

If we accept anything under 30 million we are fools. Juve can sod off too.. i dont think they have the finances these days for such large transfers.

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It was 18 million.
 
I have always been knocked for saying this but I think masher is overated, he is not a great passer, contributes fuck all going forward. His shoots like Jon Jenson and is not protecting us that much this year anyway.

I have never bought into this you need a defensive midfielder that sits, all central midfielders should be able to defend and contribute going forward, not just do one on them.

Can you think back in time of another CM that contributed that little in the attacking part of the game.

In so called PL history you will never top Keane and Scholes at their best, I remember both getting forward and back when neccessary, why does one have to sit there mopping up all the time.

Even Ince scored, Didi scored a few as well

I would not miss him to be honest, maybe Aqua and Stevie will make a good partnership.
 
[quote author=rage link=topic=36371.msg960787#msg960787 date=1255213332]
masch is pissed off he's having to play next to lucas and when things don't work out he gets blamed.

fuck lucas off, move gerrard back into the middle, play aquaman/yossi behind torres and masch won't want to go anywhere in the summer.

its a shame some of us don't appreciate our better players. alonso just passed the ball, now all masch does is tackle.
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When things go wrong, Lucas gets blamed.

For someone who 'goes the game', you aren't half fucking brainless.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=36371.msg960844#msg960844 date=1255251551]
When things go wrong, Lucas gets blamed. [/quote]

Just substitute Lucas for Benyoun last year, or for Babel (rightly or wrongly) ... or Kuyt for a few months last year (**raises hand**) ... We all find a player to blame one way or another.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=36371.msg960822#msg960822 date=1255243249]
Whoah, hold up one second.

Lucas takes a lot of unfair flack because Masher is one-dimensional as fuck... and less so because he himself is just as one-dimensional (only poor on top of it)?

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I'm not Lucas biggest fan, but he is far from one-dimensional IMO, & I dont think he's poor either.
 
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