Because in offices they are all at the same level and superior and subordinate relationships never take place ?
Mark Sampson
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Shall I star* every tongue in cheek comment for you in future ?
Which is the correct assumption.
I don't really believe that for a moment. Not only would it be totally inane, and a person in his position would be more than just aware that it would severe repercussions, but his players seem to really love working with him which just doesn't jive with someone who has a snide, racist, side to them.
However with roughly 50% of the population female it is possibly also a good strategy to get more of them interested in football. Do they care about the standard ? Probably not, as supporters of lower tier professional, and amateur, male teams around the world make a good case for.
Was this your sarcastic comment?
"Look at the coverage given to Scottish football where, Old Firm aside, about 17 people and 5 dogs attend each match yet SPL matches were broadcast across the UK !"
If so, I fear you have a rather nebulous grasp of sarcasm.
That's why i said if it's true but it does seem a weirdly specific accusation to make. There's no doubt that the continued headlines and accusations from Aluko have forced the FA's hand into getting rid of him. The way she was dropped from the squad by Sampson only a week after making the supposedly anonymous complaint about him is fishy as fuck as well. He obviously found out and dropped her because of it despite her being top scorer in the womens league.
Whereas you seem to be unsure of when the application of the word 'sarcasm' is warranted.
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No, I'm entirely sure. Because I'm not thick.
While much of the women's game has improved considerably in recent years, with some outfield players being really impressive, their goalkeepers remain almost comically poor. It's quite odd - female athletes have no trouble jumping, so why female goalkeepers seem to struggle to jump more than a foot when shots loop very slowly over their heads is a mystery.
One problem with them building the game's appeal, I think, is that it seems to have developed in the opposite direction to the men's game. The women's game now features players who barely stay more than a year at one club. They go from one allegiance to another as the money starts to come in and the likes of City, Chelski and us pay out more to hurriedly build a competitive side from nothing. There's not even the men's game's nostalgia for a more rooted existence - the women's game has gone straight through to contemporary soullessness. Whether that will ever settle down, I don't know, but I guess that's why many fans are drawn more to the international game, where there's perversely more continuity in terms of players than there is at their club sides.
One problem with them building the game's appeal, I think, is that it seems to have developed in the opposite direction to the men's game. The women's game now features players who barely stay more than a year at one club. They go from one allegiance to another as the money starts to come in and the likes of City, Chelski and us pay out more to hurriedly build a competitive side from nothing. There's not even the men's game's nostalgia for a more rooted existence - the women's game has gone straight through to contemporary soullessness. Whether that will ever settle down, I don't know, but I guess that's why many fans are drawn more to the international game, where there's perversely more continuity in terms of players than there is at their club sides.
That's open to interpretation, you do seem to be a bit slow at times. Or deliberately bellicose - which may be more likely as that seems to be you to a T.
There was another confrontation with a poster in the last few days when they made a comment which could be interpreted in two ways only if you were being deliberately belligerent, so typically you pulled him up on it and then when he clarified your response was 'ah that's OK then", as if any of us need your official endorsement, hilarious.
Agree Macca. Remember when you were a kid and the top scorer in the under 13s was the guy who was already 5'10" and shaving played up front and all you did was give him the ball and watch him surge 50 yards brushing off challenges before simply putting the ball in the goal at between 6 and 8 feet? The keeper was always some poor scrote with gloves way too big and a shirt down over his arse who flapped at the ball two feet below it or simple watched it soar over their head. That's what women's football goalkeeping still seems to be. Regardless of the advances made in outfield skills, tactics etc.
True enough. I just don't see why it should be given preference over the myriad other sports women are amazing at and that would inspire young girls to want to achieve the same. Equestrianism, hockey, golf, swimming, martial arts, athletics, rowing, skiing/snowboarding, cycling etc etc. There are a huge amount of womens' sports that showcase incredible dedication, skill, nerve, guts, talent etc that are at an amazing standard and have been for decades. Show more of those so we can all see the highest examples of that sort that already exists, instead of showing a load of old shite just because women happen to play it.
Numbers game. Anyone can play football and the facilities are already in place both at schools and for the public. Most of those sports you have listed are to one degree or another elitist / expensive / limited by access to facilities. Martial arts the exception but seen as aggressive and with the greater potential for personal injury.
I don't have a problem with a coach dropping a player who sets him/herself publicly against him as Aluko did. Whatever the player's standing in the game and whether or not the player's accusations are justified, the two of them can't continue in the same set-up under those circs. One or other of them has to go and it's going to be the player, unless the coach gets dismissed. Now that that has actually happened (and if his dismissal stands following any legal action he may now take) it'll be interesting to see what happens with Aluko, especially as far as the other players (who clearly liked and rated Sampson) are concerned.
Aren't the majority of other players in the England woman's team white?
Guess they wouldn't have an issue with "a bit of banter" with the black girls.
No surprise that the 2 FA inquiries failed to speak to any of the witnesses to corroborate anything.
No good old FA - try to sweep it under the carpet - then when the heat gets on - rather than admit they fucked up - they weasel some bullshit from the past to justify the sacking.
Be interesting if Sampson does appeal on unfair dismissal - he runs the risk of the FA's 3rd enquiry - being the one that actually speaks to the other people present when the alleged remarks were made - actually proving he was racist.
Those first two paras.embody an assumption too far for me. Even if there is substance in Aluko's allegations, not all white footballers are racist.
Agree with the criticism of the FA, but an unfair dismissal allegation is highly unlikely to prompt yet another enquiry. That would make the FA look as though they were scrambling to try and cobble a case together at the last minute, and Sampson's lawyers would have a field day with it.
Agree with the criticism of the FA, but an unfair dismissal allegation is highly unlikely to prompt yet another enquiry. That would make the FA look as though they were scrambling to try and cobble a case together at the last minute, and Sampson's lawyers would have a field day with it.
If you read this article https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/21/eni-aluko-interview-race-difficult-situation
Aluko makes it quite clear that when she first mentioned this to the FA as part of their culture review she thought it would be confidential so she didn't set herself up publicly against the manager at all and it seems that someone at the FA told Sampson about what she'd said and he then dropped her.
You don't always have to get along with people you work with and I don't see why sport should be any different to any other profession.
Point taken about how Aluko reported it, but I disagree about sport being different. Teamwork is a good thing in any line of work, but it has far more importance (IMO at any rate) when you're sending a team out to win a contest than it does in a day-to-day office environment. Once things get to the stage that they got to between Aluko and Sampson, I don't think that's going to be sustainable at top level in competitive sport.
Tommy Smith and Emlyn Hughes couldn't have hated each other more than they did but they did quite well together. Andy Cole and Teddy Sheringham were another example of mutual dislike but were professional in spite of it. Sampson excluding Aluko only reinforced the allegations of bias and what was best for the team should have been the priority.
Although those examples are of players having problems with other players. It's much rarer that players who cross managers stay in the team.
Quite. Besides, this was more than mutual dislike. Calling your boss out to his boss is a different order of magnitude IMO and, while I agree about what's best for the team as a whole being top priority, that's exactly why I don't think Aluko could expect to be selected under Sampson once things had gone that far.
That's true but it doesn't say too much about the professionalism of a manger that he has to be liked by all his players and uses personal reasons for deciding the nature of his squad. Their performance on the pitch should be the deciding factor. In this case if he had been told by someone at the FA about the claims wouldn't it have been wiser to speak to the player directly and either apologise for any perceived racism or bias or just explain what he actually meant.
Just giving her a tenuous reason for her exclusion and then never picking her again seems pretty juvenile to me.
I don't think this is a case of "has to be liked". FWIW, based on that article I'd say Aluko had reason to be unhappy with at least some of what Sampson said, but things went off the rails at that point precisely because she didn't speak to him about it first, but then said what she said to the FA and thereby went over his head. Humanly understandable though that was, it's a bit rich then to complain about him not speaking to her later.
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