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So what's happened here, then? I know about the Aluko allegations, but aside from that and a few people indignant with rage on the radio, it's all a bit vague. What's he actually done? @gkmacca any inside info?
 
Whatever he's said to have done, the allegations were first made 4 years ago and no action was taken then. Either some pretty strong new evidence has come to light, or his lawyers will be all over this.
 
Typical fa double standards. If any club had similar serious allegations with thier staff, the fa would have been down on them like a ton bricks
 
So what's happened here, then? I know about the Aluko allegations, but aside from that and a few people indignant with rage on the radio, it's all a bit vague. What's he actually done? @gkmacca any inside info?

Rumour is he dated/tried to date one of the girls he coached. No idea if that's true, but that's all I've heard.
 
Rumour is he dated/tried to date one of the girls he coached. No idea if that's true, but that's all I've heard.

A bit inappropriate, sure, well very inappropriate, but some of the stuff I heard on TalkSport was ridiculous. The way they were going on you'd think he was the latest to be caught up in this celeb paedo ring.
 
How come every time I check BBC Sports, there's a women's footy story at the top? Great that girls play footy and I know we live in a back-patting bent arse world these days, but didn't media coverage used to be representative of interest? Are there really that many people interested in women's footy???
 
Probably not. And no matter how many times they try to say otherwise, the standard is fucking dreadful.
 
While it was inappropriate, you've got to take into consideration he was 30 years old at the time. Similar ages to many of the players.

I, like many other people, met my wife at work. So i don't really find the 'alligation' that bad. Unless the other person was considered as vulnerable or a minor, which I haven't yet read as the case. Or it was all unwanted attention.

As per usual the FA fucked this up, if they knew. And THEN the Aluku situation broke, he should have been suspended immediately pending an investigation.

But like I said, unless it was sexual harassmemt, a vulnerable person or a minor. Its all a storm in a tea cup for me regarding the allegations 4 years ago.
 
The problem is he's in a position of power over her career and those of the players she is competing with for a place in the team. At best it's a conflict of interest at worst he's taking advantage of a subordinate.

That's different from 2 people who work in the same office getting together
 
But its clearly FA had no issue with this but now its a convenient excuse to get rid of Sampson without owning up to the racism allegations.
 
Yes I get that, its the same as a normal workplace. What I'm saying is though he was 30. Its not like he was in his mid forties.

It was inappropriate, but hardly a hanging offence.
 
It looks like this has been used as the excuse to get rid of him more than anything else. If it's true what he said to Aluko about making sure her Nigerian relatives didn't bring ebola to Wembley with them then that should have been a sacking offence in itself.
 
Regardless of the actual rights and wrongs, its clear the FA are using the previous allegation as a "get out of jail free" card, after expecting the Aluko furore to die down, but it hanging around like a bad smell
 
How come every time I check BBC Sports, there's a women's footy story at the top? Great that girls play footy and I know we live in a back-patting bent arse world these days, but didn't media coverage used to be representative of interest? Are there really that many people interested in women's footy???

Head of BBC sport is a woman. It's a deliberate agenda to 'own' women's football and get a head start over BT, SKY etc. So my BBC journalism mate tells me.
 
Even if that were actual strategy it doesn't make sense, as commercial providers will just outbid at the next round as soon as / if it ever becomes viable
 
I'm not knocking the BBC covering women's footy at all. As a state broadcaster it's the kind of thing it can encourage. What does piss me off is this leading coverage of any minor scandal that forces people into two camps. Rather than saying this dude was investigated by a QC and found ok, why aren't they reporting on what the investigation covered, or how that in itself may have been biased, or if there'd been plague in Australia and he'd made the same comment about there as he did with Nigeria, would that be racist or just stupid? And if Bristol FC had decided that relationships between a coach and player were unacceptable and had decided to send the dude on a course to explain that, how was that not enough to end it? Was it in his contract in the first place? If not is it in contracts now? If it was why wasn't he fired then? And isn't it a bit funny, ironic, that the same person who has raised the profile of the game to such a level that it now gets coverage, is the kind of person you can't have running things anymore because you need to be a robot who says zero silly stuff, even if you think it's between mates, even if it's in a much smaller organisation years ago, but being brought up now only because you've done so well? Isn't that all a bit Mike Ashley? You created a monster that you can't control? Isn't a bit Zuckerberg? I just programmed this thing, it's not my falut 4 billion people use it and some of them are Russian spies? Isn't this world chaotic? And how the hell are we meant to make any sense of anything? But no. They don't even ask the basics.

I'm sure over the next few weeks we'll have a string of women saying he did anything from asking them out to banging them, and that they're coming forward because they feel they have to, and they don't want any money, but if there is any money, then yes of course I'll have the money please.
 
Even if that were actual strategy it doesn't make sense, as commercial providers will just outbid at the next round as soon as / if it ever becomes viable

Just passing on what I hear. She's rabid about promoting women's footie, even though it is a shit minority sport.
 
Thing is, I'm a massive Rugby League fan. I get that no-one else is, that's not a problem.
But, is everyone else a women's football fan? Weird.

It's almost like the BBC are forcing an agenda. Ahem.
Cf. the Guardian but I guess you guys love all that stuff.
 
Head of BBC sport is a woman. It's a deliberate agenda to 'own' women's football and get a head start over BT, SKY etc. So my BBC journalism mate tells me.

It's also what a public service broadcaster rather than a commercial one should be doing.
 
Is anybody surprised? Both by the allegations and the response(s)? The FA has to be the most incompetent organisation running sport in this country.
 
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England women's coach Mark Sampson was sacked for having a relationship with one of his players while at Bristol Academy, it emerged on Monday.

Insiders with knowledge of Sampson's time at Bristol report that the woman involved was over 18 and the pair were together for six months.

She is understood to have no problems about her involvement with Sampson and does not want to talk about it.

The FA safeguarding report that led to the dismissal of Sampson last week also referred to his 'over-socialising' with Bristol's players.

This information emerged on the day that the FA board gave their backing to beleaguered chief executive Martin Glenn after a meeting in which the Sampson controversy was top of the agenda.

An FA statement released after the meeting pointed the finger at 'historic processes' and no heads are expected to roll unless more damning revelations emerge.

Glenn and chairman Greg Clarke, who wholly supported his chief executive's belief that Sampson had to go after reading the safeguarding report, were even praised for bringing about 'substantial positive change' during their leadership.

Glenn received unanimous support to remain in charge, though it was recognised that it was a major mistake for him not to read the report on Sampson's time at Bristol when it was first flagged up to him in October 2015.

FA technical director Dan Ashworth, who extended Sampson's contract in 2016 having known about the investigation, did not feature much in the discussions.

Meanwhile, it has been confirmed that England player Eni Aluko will give evidence to the Parliamentary select committee on sports governance on October 18. Aluko made racism and bullying accusations against Sampson, although two investigations did not support her complaints.
 
Wow. Not only was no further action taken against Sampson after two separate investigations failed to make the case for it, his contract was then extended - on Glenn's watch - the following year, then Glenn himself changes his mind about the appropriateness of employing the guy just 12 months after that. The rights and wrongs of Sampson's conduct aside, surely there are grounds for a claim of unfair dismissal in that little lot. I hope the Select Committee ritually disembowels the FA.
 
How come every time I check BBC Sports, there's a women's footy story at the top? Great that girls play footy and I know we live in a back-patting bent arse world these days, but didn't media coverage used to be representative of interest? Are there really that many people interested in women's footy???
That was never the case. Look at the coverage given to Scottish football where, Old Firm aside, about 17 people and 5 dogs attend each match yet SPL matches were broadcast across the UK !
 
That was never the case. Look at the coverage given to Scottish football where, Old Firm aside, about 17 people and 5 dogs attend each match yet SPL matches were broadcast across the UK !

Hibs get 15,000 fans every home game. That's about 100 x more people than attendance of the average women's football match.
 
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