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Manure v Liverpool 19th September

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[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=41867.msg1174179#msg1174179 date=1284464474]
[quote author=crump link=topic=41867.msg1174173#msg1174173 date=1284464087]
It's bizarre that the only game we've played an attacking formation was against City away - which was the one game you'd expect a defensive set up.

I'd rather we play a cagey game on Sunday and try and do them on the break. I mean when we dicked them 4-1, apart from the free kick, the goals all came from some fucker hoofing it 60 or 80 yards towards someone on the break.
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I had the pleasure of re-watching that match in my house with a Utd fan. He was still in complete disbelief at the scoreline the second time round.
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It was the first premier league away game I'd taken my son to. I told him he might as well stop going after that coz it wasn't going to get any better.
 
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=41867.msg1174132#msg1174132 date=1284457885]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=41867.msg1174086#msg1174086 date=1284452523]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41867.msg1173895#msg1173895 date=1284402055]
It could be Kenny Dalglish and we'd still get tonked.
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Yes because Utd smashed Fulham and Everton this season.

And we don't have J Cole coming in or Raul replacing Lucas.

It will be a tight game that we are capable of winning.

Least not forget Torres scores at OT for fun.
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I'm beginning to think that you just alternate between positive and negative stances each season. It's like you just pick one and run with it, irrespective of what's happening on the pitch. For the record, I much prefer this one.
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Still makes me fucking twitch though.
 
[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=41867.msg1174046#msg1174046 date=1284443225]


Torres Hattrick...Babel on for Maxi to exploit tired legs for the last 20 and make it 4-0. Lucas on for Meireles for the last 5 to make it 4-3.

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hahahaha
 
I'm pretty sure relations between the managers will be good tho; firstly theyre good friends...but more importantly we're rubbish.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=41867.msg1174182#msg1174182 date=1284464544]
Why on earth did he want to watch that game again?
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He didn't, but he was staying over in my house that night & it was a choice between watching that & a taxi to wigan, where he lives, so he chose to suffer.

He was clearly to polite to knock me out, which wouldve been my response in that situation reversed!
 
[quote author=crump link=topic=41867.msg1174221#msg1174221 date=1284470552]
We can go ahead of these fuckers on Sunday you crazy defeatist turds.
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That's the spirit.
I'm feeling positive about it.
Looks like I won't get to see the game though. :-(
 
[quote author=crump link=topic=41867.msg1174221#msg1174221 date=1284470552]
We can go ahead of these fuckers on Sunday you crazy defeatist turds.
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That's the spirit. Good man.
 
I will crack up in Neville is given a free game this day. He should have been exploited last season, get him booked early and watch his suffer out there. We were so worried that Valencia would rape Insua that we had our LW hold his hand for 90 mins meaning Neville was never on the back foot.

Konchesky should be capable to keep with Nani/Valencia. However, O'Shea could easily be moved back to RB.
 
[quote author=ILD link=topic=41867.msg1174228#msg1174228 date=1284471350]
I will crack up in Neville is given a free game this day. He should have been exploited last season, get him booked early and watch his suffer out there. We were so worried that Valencia would rape Insua that we had our LW hold his hand for 90 mins meaning Neville was never on the back foot.

Konchesky should be capable to keep with Nani/Valencia. However, O'Shea could easily be moved back to RB.
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No matter who plays RB for them, I'm not sure we've got a LW capable of 'making them suffer'. Unless he plays Cole there, possibly.
 
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=41867.msg1174239#msg1174239 date=1284472785]
We must dare to put out a Meireles - Gerrard- Cole centre, with some speed on the wings.
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That would be my preference but I don't think we'll see it at Utd.

Something like:

Johnson---Carra---Agger---Konchesky

-----------Stevie---Meireles------------

Maxi------------Cole--------------Babel

----------------Torres-------------------

...would be my preference as things stand. Babel on the right and Jova on the left would also be an option.
 
It's a strange position to be in............. I actually rate our best 11 or 12 players quite highly and with Cole, Torres, Gerrard, Carra, Pepe, Agger/Skrtel and Johnson all almost certain to start I see no reason why we can't get a result at OT APART FROM LUCAS! If Lucas starts we will lose, if Lucas doesn't play at all we will get at least a point.

I actually can't be bothered posting in the football forum anymore because nearly all our on-field problems are Lucas-related and I (like many others) end up making the same blindingly obvious points about his shitness over-and-over-and-over-and-over again. I will post in the football forum as and when we sell the useless shit or he becomes a very rarely used sub.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=41867.msg1174233#msg1174233 date=1284472479]
[quote author=ILD link=topic=41867.msg1174228#msg1174228 date=1284471350]
I will crack up in Neville is given a free game this day. He should have been exploited last season, get him booked early and watch his suffer out there. We were so worried that Valencia would rape Insua that we had our LW hold his hand for 90 mins meaning Neville was never on the back foot.

Konchesky should be capable to keep with Nani/Valencia. However, O'Shea could easily be moved back to RB.
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No matter who plays RB for them, I'm not sure we've got a LW capable of 'making them suffer'. Unless he plays Cole there, possibly.

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Perhaps making Neville suffer is a bit OTT but Pienar (sp?) gave him a torrid time in spells on Saturday. Last season we gave Neville a free pass at RB when he should be exploited.

Torres seems to be hanging out wide of late, perhaps he will target Neville.
 
Please Roy......


-------------------Pepe--------------------

Magic-----Carra---Skrtel-----Konchesky

-----------------Poulsen--------------------

-----------Stevie-------Meireles---------------

----Cole--------Torres---------Jova-----------
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=41867.msg1174269#msg1174269 date=1284476341]
Please Roy......


-------------------Pepe--------------------

Magic-----Carra---Skrtel-----Konchesky

-----------------Poulsen--------------------

-----------Stevie-------Meireles---------------

----Cole--------Torres---------Jova-----------



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I have no problem with that team sheet.

Lucas had one of his best games for us against United last year but I doubt lightning will strike twice this time.
 
[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=41867.msg1174264#msg1174264 date=1284475464]
*awaits Dancing Brave*
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Haha, he's abstaining from the football forum too, Lucas has defeated us.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=41867.msg1174269#msg1174269 date=1284476341]
Please Roy......


-------------------Pepe--------------------

Magic-----Carra---Skrtel-----Konchesky

-----------------Poulsen--------------------

-----------Stevie-------Meireles---------------

----Cole--------Torres---------Jova-----------



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Jovanovic is a blunt weapon, and I'd prefer Agger to Skrtel, but otherwise I agree that's probably the best team we can put out.
 
I'm not arsed who gets the nod out of Skrtel and Agger tbh, i would like to see Jova continue to get a few more starts in the team though.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=41867.msg1174272#msg1174272 date=1284476845]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=41867.msg1174269#msg1174269 date=1284476341]
Please Roy......


-------------------Pepe--------------------

Magic-----Carra---Skrtel-----Konchesky

-----------------Poulsen--------------------

-----------Stevie-------Meireles---------------

----Cole--------Torres---------Jova-----------



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Jovanovic is a blunt weapon, and I'd prefer Agger to Skrtel, but otherwise I agree that's probably the best team we can put out.
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Yes but his pace can create plenty of opportunity. Great acceleration, something good is going to come of it..
 
As someone posted earlier, I agree, I really do rate our best starting 11. If we put out that team this week, with Jov and Maxi or Babel on the wings with Meirles, Cole, Gerrard in the middle, we really could win this thing.

The big question is self belief and confidence. That where our manager comes in, and he has to believe in himself and us. None of this wandering as lonely as a cloud shite.
 
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=41867.msg1174242#msg1174242 date=1284473144]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=41867.msg1174239#msg1174239 date=1284472785]
We must dare to put out a Meireles - Gerrard- Cole centre, with some speed on the wings.
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That would be my preference but I don't think we'll see it at Utd.

Something like:

Johnson---Carra---Agger---Konchesky

-----------Stevie---Meireles------------

Maxi------------Cole--------------Babel

----------------Torres-------------------

...would be my preference as things stand. Babel on the right and Jova on the left would also be an option.
[/quote]That is 100% our best team and baring injury should be our starting 11
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41867.msg1174290#msg1174290 date=1284479790]
No holding midfielder and Maxi in the team.

Away to United.

Hmm
[/quote]Wont happen anyway.
 
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=41867.msg1174239#msg1174239 date=1284472785]
We must dare to put out a Meireles - Gerrard- Cole centre, with some speed on the wings.
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We haven't got any speed on the wings.
 
[quote author=Wilko link=topic=41867.msg1174297#msg1174297 date=1284480266]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=41867.msg1174239#msg1174239 date=1284472785]
We must dare to put out a Meireles - Gerrard- Cole centre, with some speed on the wings.
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We haven't got any speed on the wings.
[/quote]Babel is rapid. Ecclestone too.
 
I've been thinking.

Liverpool 1 utd 0

Fernando torres ( or maybe gerrard)
 
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