Context doesn't change anything "has form when it comes to cheating" what a pathetic thing to say.
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Context doesn't change anything "has form when it comes to cheating" what a pathetic thing to say.
Yeah, should have quoted the whole paragraph; but it was still a disgusting thing to say. Will he say Bale cheats too?
but he does. The issue isn't that, because he does, he's a winner and fights tooth and nail to get there, what people continue to overlook is that cheating is rife throughout the game in many other different aspects - no one seems to mention the fact that United have intimidated officials for years and had a ridiculous amount of injury time added onto their games in comparison to everyone else. He's not the only diver in the game, look at Bale, Ronaldo and Nani. So it's all a load of hypocritical bollocks when you hear Fergie getting all high and mighty about other clubs getting the rub of the green, and the media continuously singling out Luis.
I see he wants the FA to block some ex players move to Spurs from Standard Leige. They don't even own the fucking guy any more!
Well it does change the overall statement that was made but, yeh, it's a stupid thing to say. The press and media need their Johnny Foreigner pantomime villain though. I don't even get wound up about it any more because the agenda is so fucking glaring it's quite funny now and truly showing the media and journos for what they are.
The handball wasn't deliberate. It hit him in a split second, he tried to move his arm away - not towards - and it's clear he expected the goal not to be given the way he kicked it into the net. Deliberate handball or not - which would have actually constituted a foul - the goal should not have been given in my view. That is the job of the officials who have been consistently missing things all year but it just so happens in this instance that LFC, and in particular Suarez, for once fell on the fortunate side of that poor officiating. I can understand the frustration of Mansfield supporters of course.
You forget to mention the "falling dramatically" of Ashley Young.
I think Gary Neville's take on this last week was excellent. Athletes will do anything it takes to win -
I agree with both Sunny and Marks replies, it's the inconsistency which riles me, it's pathetic and borderline scandalous, and the really annoying thing are all the idiots who buy it up as if it's the truth. How on gods green earth Bale gets away with only a slight smudge on his reputation is beyond me, he'd make the Portuguese league blush with his diving antics, and lets not even start on the shit United get away with. Pathetic.
Doesn't really matter what anyone says. The media were just waiting in the wings to exploit any negativity surrounding Suarez. I love that the Mansfield gaffer is so forthright saying that he has no issue because if that was one of his players, he'd gladly take the goal. Its up to the officials to police the game.
That cabbage patch was poor but respect to Mansfield for giving us a right go.
That cabbage patch was poor but respect to Mansfield for giving us a right go.
It looks like a surgeon's taken her anus and made it into a mouth.
I suppose I should ask why you were studying anuses (or ani if we're being grammatically correct) so closely as to know that?
Although I date say your head has been up your own arse a few times.
Sorry couldn't resist 🙂
The only stupid thing is our fans getting upset by this. Suarez doesn't and any intelligent fan knows the media do to raise Their profile, simple. I love it. I love that he playa for us and I love that he goes the extra mile to win. Credit their manager too for his comment. If it happened next week at utd Fergie would love his shit.
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Suarez chose to use his hand to save a ball on the line during a WC knock-out game in it's later stages to prevent a defeat. It's hardly a big surprise that this lad will do whatever it takes to win - even cheat.
I didn't condone his handball back then and wouldn't now either. It's not in the spirit of the game, simple as.
Suarez will still probably do it again, as some has posted, he's a winner, who's certainly not affraid of using most of the dirty tricks in the book to get there. Being a winner and a cheat doesn't necessarily go hand in hand though as Messi amongst others have proved time and time again.
He's our player though and without a doubt the best one we've got so we've simply got no choice others than to look through all this and take the sweet with the sour. Gladly there's mostly sweet to behold these days and I even believe he has toned the other part down a bit of late.
I can see why the medias love to hate him though. He can be a bit of cheat.
I didn't condone his handball back then and wouldn't now either. It's not in the spirit of the game, simple as.
Suarez will still probably do it again, as some has posted, he's a winner, who's certainly not affraid of using most of the dirty tricks in the book to get there. Being a winner and a cheat doesn't necessarily go hand in hand though as Messi amongst others have proved time and time again.
He's our player though and without a doubt the best one we've got so we've simply got no choice others than to look through all this and take the sweet with the sour. Gladly there's mostly sweet to behold these days and I even believe he has toned the other part down a bit of late.
I can see why the medias love to hate him though. He can be a bit of cheat.
Messi's scored at least one nice goal with his hand ....
But thats my point. We do mention all this shit and we condone it all the time. But when Luis is in the middle we look for all kind of excuses to why it is so. it buggers me.
- He did nothing wrong according to the rules!
- He is a winner and will do anything to win,. thats why we love him!
- Its the refs job to see it, and if he dont blow the whistle its okay.
- Its his Latino background, they had to fight to survive!!
- Look at all others who get away with it!
- Etc Etc
I agree with all those. I just wish it didnt happen. I just wish we stood for something else than those hapless cunts that need help from the referee every fucking time they are in deep water. You could say all those things above about a lot of People. Even Lance Fucking Armstrong did everything to win! Will we salut Fergie next time he goes bananas over a ref, that he has done nothing wrong according to some rules, and it is just because he is a winner? No we wont. And we shouldnt. We should point out what a fucking dickhead he is every fucking time he steps over the line. Next time Nani cries at Anfield, is it ok due to his latino background? The fuck it is. It is fucking pathetic, and should be pointed to him and his followers the rest of his fucking career!
I am Luis biggest fan, but I did not feel good about the game yesterday. I will get over it easy, and it is no big deal, but seeing people here searching the internet for any evidence or opinion to defend or condone him shows that it is something well worth looking at.. Do we want to be different? I do, and thats why I feel bad about yesterdays shit. Because it damaged the weak part in this case. If it was a Rio ferdinand that had spent the best part of the game commiting bookable offences against Suarez without the ref caring at all, I would have thought it was what he deserved. But these guys are hard working amateurs, and they should be treathed with a different kind of respect for their hard work ethics, and I feel bad that this happened to them.
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I am not saying he's a Saint either.
But come on, you don't think there's a gulf between the two when it comes to fair play?
Suarez's reputation for 'fair play' was tainted by his handball on the line against Ghana. Any player in the world would have done that - as has been done countless of times. Suarez, unfortunately for him, did it on the world's biggest stage against the tournament's (& continent's) darling. That's the only reason for his reputation as a 'cheater.'
I remember when Messi scored his handball goal (off a cross and he led with his hand - bloody blatant), there wasn't a murmur. No one asked why he didn't admit it etc ...
There's players people love to love, and rightly so. There's players people love to hate ... He's the kind of player everyone loves to have on their club though.
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If Suarez was an United player we'd all hate him as much as we did Ronaldo. Perhaps even more.
I don't get all these, "look at them, they are cheating as well, so why shouldn't we", argues.
Just because someone does a wrong and gets away with it doesn't mean we should thrive to hit the same lows. Condoning our own players behaviour when they cheat, just because someone else was also cheating, is in my opinion very wrong.
I don't get all these, "look at them, they are cheating as well, so why shouldn't we", argues.
Just because someone does a wrong and gets away with it doesn't mean we should thrive to hit the same lows. Condoning our own players behaviour when they cheat, just because someone else was also cheating, is in my opinion very wrong.
Again. Stop looking at excuses. Look for what is right. Is it ok that Messi handled a ball? No. Do I care alot about it? No. But it doesnt make it more right for any player to do it just because Messi did it once? Is it ok for Nani to dive? Suarez and Gerrard has dived at least once.
I haven't condoned it.
Yes, players dive (Gerrard did it in Istanbul). Yes, players cheat. Yes, that's part and parcel of athletes doing anything it takes to win. Do I condone it? No. Do I expect it? Yup. If you don't 'like' it, ballet or chess are excellent sports where professional integrity is at a premium.
Of course Suarez is wrong. The precedent for fair play was set by Roy Carroll of Man Utd a few years back when he admitted that the ball was at least a yard over the line.......oh.
Fuck the press, fuck the haters.
The officials made a decision, they have backed up the decision. Let the haters hate. There must be a big game coming up for us soon eh?
Or sell the bitey, cheating, racist cunt!! Come on Lizards sell!!!!
It has to be said though, that if ESPN are happy with being a poor man's ITV then they must be on the level of C5. Something which they should be very, very proud of.
Fuck the press, fuck the haters.
The officials made a decision, they have backed up the decision. Let the haters hate. There must be a big game coming up for us soon eh?
Or sell the bitey, cheating, racist cunt!! Come on Lizards sell!!!!
It has to be said though, that if ESPN are happy with being a poor man's ITV then they must be on the level of C5. Something which they should be very, very proud of.
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Feel free to mention all the other players in the world of football who have so blatantly cheated like Suarez did? I don't believe for one second everyone would've done what Suarez did.
Anyways if that was the only thing Suarez had been guilty of, that handball, people would slowly forget about it but he's more often than not right in the thick of it all and he's not afraid of using a few dirty tricks to help himself.
Even the most blinkered of blinkered Liverpool fans should acknowledge this as a fact.
Trying to prove that Messi and Suarez are equally cheats on the pitch is ridiculous mate, it really is.
Cheating is wrong Kris but in what way did he cheat? The fourth official said immediately that yes, the ball hit his hand, but it was not intentional - hence why the goal was given. I myself don't think the goal should have been given but neither do I think it was a deliberate act and then cheating. I suppose some will point to the Robbie Fowler incident at Arsenal as an example of fair play but that never overturned the referees decision.
It's also making me chuckle that some are getting all a bit moral and precious that a bad decision has actually gone in our favour when we've been on the wrong end of so many this season that our glorious press and media deem to be unworthy of the slightest mention yet when it's Luis they all go ape shit. I love the fact he winds the biased agenda driven cunts up so much now to be honest.
No one is comparing Messi or Suarez - you talked about scoring with your hands, and I gave you an example of the biggest (& cleanest) player in the game today who did it openly and no one batted an eye lid.
Yes, I think most players in the 120th minute of a knock out game with a ball flying toward their goal line and to elimination would have done what he did. To quote Ross, 'second place is for cunts' and he did what it took to try and get his team to 1st. Does it mean it wasn't cheating? No, it was but that is part of the game and has been for a long time.
Until Suarez was mentioned in the press by Fergusion, how many managers/players openly talked about him as a cheater? Now he's the player people love to slam in the media, with Bale a distant second.
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Oh I am not talking about last night mate, perhaps that wasn't even intentional as you say.
I was merely pointing out that a lot of the media-hype surrounding Suarez is because of the way he's been acting on the pitch at times. I know a lot of it is over the top and I know he's been on the wrong end of decisions loads this Seasons, but lets not fool ourselves, had he been anywhere else but in Liverpool, he'd be one of the most hated players on here.
This Season I've counted at least five clear penos not given, simply because he's a player refs are more cautios about than others due to his, at times, lack of sportsmanship. Fair or not fair, but that's the name of the game. Refs are simply afraid to get fooled by him.
I love Suarez the footballer to bits, I'd wish he'd get rid of his bad habits though. Would even help him as a player imo.
So discussing ethics automatically make you a hater? Sell sell sell? You couldnt be even more of a dramaqueen?
Yes. This. So fucking much this.
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