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And so it begins... Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1...idering-replacing-david-moyes-manager?cc=4716
Sources: Board turns against Moyes
March 17, 2014
By Miguel Delaney | ESPNFC
Key Manchester United boardroom figures have now turned against David Moyes, as the prospect of the manager getting sacked has been properly raised for the first time, club sources have told ESPN.
The Glazer family owners are now actively contemplating a change of manager, and the next week could seal Moyes' fate, sources said. Over that time, United must overturn a 2-0 deficit in the Champions League against Olympiakos, before facing an awkward trip to West Ham United and then a potentially daunting second derby of the season against Manchester City.
While qualification for the quarter-finals of the Champions League would be seen as a huge positive and possibly change the entire dynamic of his job, an elimination followed by poor performances in the two games after that could well bring the pressure to breaking point. The Glazers are said to have become very "nervous" about the nature of recent performances, let alone the results, with a nadir coming in the 3-0 home defeat to Liverpool. Some United officials now openly maintain that a managerial change is needed.
Old Trafford sources also state it has been noted that Alex Ferguson is no longer so vocally backing Moyes at boardroom level, although the former manager is not said to have turned against his replacement. It is also believed Moyes retains the backing of Bobby Charlton.
Doubt, however, has increased at virtually every level of the club. Despite the poverty of recent performances, sources state that one of the most influential factors now has been financial concerns. A number of recently signed-up sponsors and commercial partners have reportedly let it be known to the club that they are less than enthused with now being linked to failure, especially since they specifically came on board because of the reputation for extreme success.
This is said to have most unnerved the hierarchy, and long-term damage to United as a "brand" could be the clinching point in any decision. While the club have long planned for a season out of the Champions League - and that was known to be one initial reason behind the previously unwavering support for Moyes - any extra negative effect on commercial revenue would be viewed with utmost seriousness.
Sources also state that United representatives have made tentative contact with Louis van Gaal over a potential summer appointment, mostly to test the waters, and that the Dutch coach is a little less intent on the Tottenham Hotspur job than he was a few weeks ago. Spurs had felt that Van Gaal's appointment after the World Cup was virtually certain, but it is now more open-ended.
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1...idering-replacing-david-moyes-manager?cc=4716
Sources: Board turns against Moyes
March 17, 2014
By Miguel Delaney | ESPNFC
Key Manchester United boardroom figures have now turned against David Moyes, as the prospect of the manager getting sacked has been properly raised for the first time, club sources have told ESPN.
The Glazer family owners are now actively contemplating a change of manager, and the next week could seal Moyes' fate, sources said. Over that time, United must overturn a 2-0 deficit in the Champions League against Olympiakos, before facing an awkward trip to West Ham United and then a potentially daunting second derby of the season against Manchester City.
While qualification for the quarter-finals of the Champions League would be seen as a huge positive and possibly change the entire dynamic of his job, an elimination followed by poor performances in the two games after that could well bring the pressure to breaking point. The Glazers are said to have become very "nervous" about the nature of recent performances, let alone the results, with a nadir coming in the 3-0 home defeat to Liverpool. Some United officials now openly maintain that a managerial change is needed.
Old Trafford sources also state it has been noted that Alex Ferguson is no longer so vocally backing Moyes at boardroom level, although the former manager is not said to have turned against his replacement. It is also believed Moyes retains the backing of Bobby Charlton.
Doubt, however, has increased at virtually every level of the club. Despite the poverty of recent performances, sources state that one of the most influential factors now has been financial concerns. A number of recently signed-up sponsors and commercial partners have reportedly let it be known to the club that they are less than enthused with now being linked to failure, especially since they specifically came on board because of the reputation for extreme success.
This is said to have most unnerved the hierarchy, and long-term damage to United as a "brand" could be the clinching point in any decision. While the club have long planned for a season out of the Champions League - and that was known to be one initial reason behind the previously unwavering support for Moyes - any extra negative effect on commercial revenue would be viewed with utmost seriousness.
Sources also state that United representatives have made tentative contact with Louis van Gaal over a potential summer appointment, mostly to test the waters, and that the Dutch coach is a little less intent on the Tottenham Hotspur job than he was a few weeks ago. Spurs had felt that Van Gaal's appointment after the World Cup was virtually certain, but it is now more open-ended.
Just hope for them to play a blinder, but suffer an unfortunate or unlucky elimination due to a bad refereeing decision or a freak deflection that goes off Jones' head, the crossbar, and then in off the back of De Gea's head. Anything that will leave them feeling desperately unlucky, suffering a cruel injustice, etc. and rekindle false hopes that maybe Moyes has learned something from the defeat to us, and actually deserves more time. Then let them have a decent run to finish the season so they cling on to those false hopes.
I want them to win 3-1.
Yes, perfect result.
He probably didn't see an away team get even one at Old Toilet in the Ferguson era. And some of them would have been as nailed on as any we saw last weekend.
Yup. 'Twas me. Still don't think he'll get sacked because of us winning 3-0 (no shame in losing to us hahaha)
He's been a dead man walking ever since he lost the players. It's just a question of timing.
I still think he'll stay till the summer no matter what. They can only get Van Gaal after the World Cup.
I want them to crash out of the Champs league, then beat City and finish the season better (qualifying for the Europa league).
That way, Moyes will get another season, they'll be playing Sundays/Mondays next season and we'll have the title run right now in our own hands.
Win/win/win.
That way, Moyes will get another season, they'll be playing Sundays/Mondays next season and we'll have the title run right now in our own hands.
Win/win/win.
So the game has begun. Can they keep a manager they are going to sack until the summer? No... So they need a temporary replacement (Giggs?). He get an automatic lift, and start dreaming about the permanent job while the board want something else. So either they go with the few encouraging results and give a man a short term max 2 seasons) to prove himself, or they go for a big name that require more transfer kit and a longer contract. Either way it causes unrest. Just love it!!!
In years to come they should publish The Moyes Plan as a 'how not to' guide to starting at a new club:
1. Get all the old guard on the outside pissing in.
2. Bring in the new guard from the same crap place from whence you came.
3. Make your most experienced ageing general feel untouchable.
4. Make your new recruits feel inadequate and uncertain.
5. Go out of your way to alienate the most powerful of your potential critics.
6. Go out of your way to ingratiate yourself with those who show blind faith.
7. Appear clueless in public.
8. Appear clueless in private.
9. Respond to setbacks by reaffirming the strategy that failed.
10. Shut the door on your way out.
1. Get all the old guard on the outside pissing in.
2. Bring in the new guard from the same crap place from whence you came.
3. Make your most experienced ageing general feel untouchable.
4. Make your new recruits feel inadequate and uncertain.
5. Go out of your way to alienate the most powerful of your potential critics.
6. Go out of your way to ingratiate yourself with those who show blind faith.
7. Appear clueless in public.
8. Appear clueless in private.
9. Respond to setbacks by reaffirming the strategy that failed.
10. Shut the door on your way out.
Nice! 😀
It's weird as hell, but the first time ever I want Manure to win some matches.
I hope they batter Olympiakos and go through. They're in no danger of winning anything so it doesn't matter. I want them to hammer citeh, helping us and giving them some false hope. Stutter over the finishing line in 5th or 6th having a had a not-too-awful last ten games, and then give that stupid awful cunt a hundred million quid to ruin next season with
I hope they batter Olympiakos and go through. They're in no danger of winning anything so it doesn't matter. I want them to hammer citeh, helping us and giving them some false hope. Stutter over the finishing line in 5th or 6th having a had a not-too-awful last ten games, and then give that stupid awful cunt a hundred million quid to ruin next season with
I think there's a lesson there for up and coming managers. If you do well at a small or middling club, realise when you've peaked there and move on. Moyes did do well at Everton in the early days but after that he just repeated the old pattern, securing safety from the relegation zone and then looking to consolidate. Every year he repeated that made him less and less suited to managing a big club. He ended up deep inside a carapace of caution. So I don't think he lacked the potential to do the bigger job. He just lost it a long time ago. Well done Ginsoak!
I think what young British managers need to get through their thick fucking heads is that nobody, *nobody*, 'deserves' a chance to manage a big PL club. It has to be earned. What they never seem to realise is that foreign coaches earn that right by coaching abroad - often in their home countries - where coaches are seen as more disposable and therefore the risk of giving a young one a chance at a bigger club is smaller, and so they invariably do get those chances to impress. The trade-off is that they get paid much less and get sacked much quicker, as well as having less power and control. They then have to make the leap abroad to the PL to get one of the really rewarding managerial jobs.
That's the natural path of progression for a top PL manager in this European market. The media, though, and apparently the likes of Sherwood, seem to think British managers should be able to skip several rungs of the ladder by dint of desert.
That's the natural path of progression for a top PL manager in this European market. The media, though, and apparently the likes of Sherwood, seem to think British managers should be able to skip several rungs of the ladder by dint of desert.
... you don't have to win things to be a winner, but he is a winner
Yep, the complete disregard of Rodgers history, either through choice or ignorance, except for the bits that involve that cunt Mourinho, highlights this nicely.
He is used as an example why more clubs should take chances on younger English managers without looking any further through his resume than Swansea.
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