Liverpool vs Man UTD Match Thread

[Hansern]

Haha, this place is so fucking shite at times.
We deserved that loss... Christ.

Time to give this forum a miss for a while while people are off their minds.

 

[dmishra]

So we shaded possession and chances but deserved to lose?

What bollocks.

We deserved to lose because we couldn't come up with a plan to beat a team set up entirely for a smash and grab.

Playing with three CMs in midfield and two AMs and a CM as the front three is a really terrible strategy against a team like that.

And to not change anything till the 75th minute when it was painfully obvious that we wouldn't score is really poor management.

 

[darkstarexodus]

We simply can't seem to make passes to feet. Get in a good situation and there's a careless flick, an over-ambitious through ball, a rash cross or a wild long range volley. We should have beaten them easily today, but almost all the players go brain dead when they get near the area, and some are trying to showboat when it's 0-0!

Lallana and Can are both frequently guilty of this. When it comes off it looks beautiful but too often it's just wasted possession.

 

[tomasjj]

Apart from Lallana and Can's chances we really didn't test them.
It was pathetic.

Firmino had one, when Lucas played him in with that long pass.

 

[mom]

Every time I watch the reply of their goal, I can't help wonder why Ming is on his knees for the follow up.

 

[Leo]

Firmino had one, when Lucas played him in with that long pass.

That was the Lallana powder puff header I think.
Firmino had a half chance but didn't test De Gea.

 

[mark1975]

We shaded possession and chances against a really mediocre side. If you think that means we were hard done by, then I think you should raise your expectations a bit from a Liverpool side.

It wasn't a great game from either side but we more than shaded it in terms of chances created. No one said it was a satisfactory performance, but we're still entitled to feel hard done by, they got a chance and took it, we had several chances but couldn't buy a goal. I know our flaws but we were the better side. I don't think we need to be told what our expectations should be, you're using a completely malign point that's lacking any sort of perspective on the respective performances. We were punished because we didn't take our chances. We've also got three strikers out injured while they finished the game with Depay, Rooney, Martial and Mata as their attack.

 

[darkstarexodus]

We deserved to lose because we couldn't come up with a plan to beat a team set up entirely for a smash and grab.

Playing with three CMs in midfield and two AMs and a CM as the front three is a really terrible strategy against a team like that.

And to not change anything till the 75th minute when it was painfully obvious that we wouldn't score is really poor management.

It wasn't that we looked like we wouldn't score that was the problem, although that was also true. It was beginning to look like they would and we didn't change things that was the problem. We controlled the game thoroughly until tiring. At that point, barring subs, it was only going to go one way.

 

[hmmmmm1]

We used to laugh at Jose when he used to put huth up front for Chelsea.

Cringe when seeing Klopp doing the same
With caulker.

 

[Hansern]

We used to laugh at Jose when he used to put huth up front for Chelsea.

Cringe when seeing Klopp doing the same
With caulker.

Yeah its cringeworthy trying to equalize.

 

[Hansern]

We deserved to lose because we couldn't come up with a plan to beat a team set up entirely for a smash and grab.

Playing with three CMs in midfield and two AMs and a CM as the front three is a really terrible strategy against a team like that.

And to not change anything till the 75th minute when it was painfully obvious that we wouldn't score is really poor management.

A terrible strategy that saw us dominate them the enitre game. Right.
Klopp could have brougt on Benteke earlier but apart from that I dont agree at all.

 

[Aidan O' Neill]

Toothless, we need a fucking striker. We should have hammered United today but the longer the game went on, it was pretty obvious the way it was going.

And if any other Liverpool manager had brought on Steven fucking Caulker as a striker when we were gagging for a goal, they'd be slaughtered, but as it's Klopp, it's suddenly some sort of "route one" tactical ingenuity.

Nobody said it was tactical ingenuity. It's shite but lets not pretend others like Mourinho and Guardiola haven't done it. Rodgers did it with skrtel last season. It's a means to an end.

 

[Piedro]

Utd fans singing, you've never won the league. Football obviously started in 1992 for them yeah?

Think they were singing "have you ever seen Gerrard win the league"

And the other was "you nearly won the league"

So yeah. They are right.

 

[Leo]

A terrible strategy that saw us dominate them the enitre game. Right.
Klopp could have brougt on Benteke earlier but apart from that I dont agree at all.

We didn't dominate the whole game.
They were better from the 60th minute on when we tired.
Klopp didn't react quick enough and it cost us.

 

[Piedro]

Toothless, we need a fucking striker. We should have hammered United today but the longer the game went on, it was pretty obvious the way it was going.

And if any other Liverpool manager had brought on Steven fucking Caulker as a striker when we were gagging for a goal, they'd be slaughtered, but as it's Klopp, it's suddenly some sort of "route one" tactical ingenuity.

As I said to my mate in the pub before the game, Mourinho used to bring on Huth up front and get fucking crucified by our fans.

It's alright for us to do it though yeah.

 

[Fabio]

We didn't dominate the whole game.
They were better from the 60th minute on when we tired.
Klopp didn't react quick enough and it cost us.

I'd say it became more even, rather than them being better

 

[Piedro]

We deserved to lose because we couldn't come up with a plan to beat a team set up entirely for a smash and grab.

Playing with three CMs in midfield and two AMs and a CM as the front three is a really terrible strategy against a team like that.

And to not change anything till the 75th minute when it was painfully obvious that we wouldn't score is really poor management.

We didn't deserve to lose the game but we didn't deserve to win it either.

So, a draw then.

 

[Leo]

I'd say it became more even, rather than them being better

They were starting to look very dangerous even before they scored.
You just knew the inevitable was going to happen.

 

[cloggypop]

As I said to my mate in the pub before the game, Mourinho used to bring on Huth up front and get fucking crucified by our fans.

It's alright for us to do it though yeah.

Mourinho did it when he had other options available though, after spending an absolute fortune building the team he wanted.

 

[Khalido]

Fuming so much after that. For a team to allow 2 players time to work a corner kick without ANY opposition is unforgivable.
Going forward too many nearly players in this team, typified by Adam Lallana who as an attacking player should be embarrassed by his output.
People keep saying he has great ability but if that doesn't translate into goals/assists then what's the point. A nothing player.
Let's go on and win a cup, then build in the Summer.

 

[Judge Jules]

We didn't dominate the whole game.
They were better from the 60th minute on when we tired.
Klopp didn't react quick enough and it cost us.

It might have done but there's absolutely no way of knowing that. Two things definitely cost us - their keeper and our lack of scoring threat.

 

[Hansern]

Mourinho did it when he had other options available though, after spending an absolute fortune building the team he wanted.

I was about to write something similar but I couldnt be bothered.

 

[tombrown]

Best put the Aga on for supper while you are at it.

One doesn't "put on the Aga", the Aga is always on.

 

[Leo]

It might have done but there's absolutely no way of knowing that. Two things definitely cost us - their keeper and our lack of scoring threat.

Well we know how it played out so it's probably easy say it now but I did call it in the match thread before they scored.
I thought it was painfully obvious that we needed some sort of threat up top.
Firmino was on the half way line for most counter attacks and it took an age for a runner to arrive so he could release it.

 

[cloggypop]

One doesn't "put on the Aga", the Aga is always on.

He's probably gone down to Waitrose in the Range Rover.

 

[tombrown]

Is Fortnam's closed on a Sunday then?

 

[Piedro]

Mourinho did it when he had other options available though, after spending an absolute fortune building the team he wanted.

When Mourinho first played Huth upfront, Gudjohnson and Kezman were his only 2 fit strikers.

Drogba, Mutu and Carlton Cole were all injured.

Google it if you don't believe me.

 

[Fabio]

When Mourinho first played Huth upfront, Gudjohnson and Kezman were his only 2 fit strikers.

Drogba, Mutu and Carlton Cole were all injured.

Google it if you don't believe me.

You Googled it then

 

[Piedro]

I did.

 

[Piedro]

I'm pretty sure he didn't buy any of those players either, this would have been in his first season as he inherited most if not all of them.