• You may have to login or register before you can post and view our exclusive members only forums.
    To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

LFC Reserves & Youth Team Goals/Highlights

Status
Not open for further replies.
Can he play at CB?

I'm kinda of the same opinion in that if you're not in the picture by the age of 19 the odds really are not in your favour.

We're already nursing Curtis Jones into the first team. It's hard to see someone else getting a proper go unless they've got obvious superstar potential.
 
My rule of thumb is quite simple.
If you're 19 and not playing for the first team, as in not in the rotation at all, then the chances of making it at LFC is between slim and none.

Challenge, name one LFC product who made it at the club who wasn't in the rotation at 19?
Nat Phillips.

"made it" means playing one senior PL game, right?
 
19 only matters to Paul Hardcastle. It's just a silly argument. If you're Luton Town, then, sure, you'd better break through by then, but it's stupid to be that dogmatic when the team is at the top. He was only given a contract last year, for christs sake. Salah was over 20 before he started playing regularly at a decent level. It's one more of those stupid 'look at me' non-arguments.
 
What about people who made it elsewhere, like Conor Coady?
Have to say that I was a bit disappointed that Coady didn't make it with us. I believe that if we had a better coach like Klopp he definitely would have.

I don't think we've really lost out on anyone who was released at 19 or older.
 
I wouldn't say 'high,' merely because I think you need to be like a young Michael Owen making an impact to be given that good a rating, but I do think Klopp will really look to give him a chance. He fascinates me, because he has a great set of skills - he can play a number 10 (if that still exists), he can get into the box, he's a great dead ball specialist, he can do pretty much any midfield role.

But the most intriguing thing is that, as promising an attacking midfielder as he is, his most eye-catching skill is his ability to collect the ball deep in our half and hit the most sublime long passes (not 'balls,' his accuracy is breathtaking at times), and put them right where a Mane or Salah would want them exactly to be. It's the nearest thing to Alonso I've seen in that very particular sense. And I think about that quite a bit because, if you play him deep, you'll lose a heck of a lot that he has to offer in an attacking sense, but when you see those long diagonal or down the line passes you just think, what the hell!

Obviously he has a lot to add to his game, and he needs to get stronger, but what vision he has, and what a wand of a left foot he has. Whether he can fit into this pattern of play, at this pace, remains a question that can only really be answered once he gets some chances, but there was nothing arbitrary about his recent presence in the match day squad. He's a very interesting young player.
Great info cheers, also chimes in with the low expectations of the age people should break into a team you said later - I think it was in my mind too that it seems late for him to appear! Hope he gets some chances, I guess this season is made for new blood to get a chance more than ever.
 
My rule of thumb is quite simple.
If you're 19 and not playing for the first team, as in not in the rotation at all, then the chances of making it at LFC is between slim and none.

Challenge, name one LFC product who made it at the club who wasn't in the rotation at 19?
I'm sure Vardy would be on a Leicester fan's list 😉
 
https://www.teamtalk.com/news/the-scout-set-piece-king-jake-cain-save-liverpool-fortune
[article]In our relaunched weekly Scout feature, we take a deep dive into an emerging player on track to become a footballing superstar before our very eyes.

This week’s edition focuses on Liverpool midfielder and ‘set piece king’ Jake Cain, a player destined to save the club millions in the years to come…


Player Profile
Wigan-born Cain, 19, signed his first professional contract with the Reds in 2019 after rising through the club’s youth ranks.

He played a key role in their successful FA Youth Cup campaign of 2018-19 in a team that boasted current first-teamers Rhys Williams and Neco Williams.

Cain made his senior first-team debut for the club in their FA Cup fourth-round replay victory over Shrewsbury Town last season. That particular line-up was the youngest Liverpool have ever fielded in a competitive fixture, but the only thing young about Cain on that day was his appearance.

His rapid rise and transferable skillset has seen him awarded a spot on the bench of each of Liverpool’s three Champions League group stage matches in the current campaign.

Why the hype?
Liverpool.Jake_.Cain_.TEAMtalk.jpg


The first thing you’ll notice when watching Cain is just how simple he makes the game look. A common appraisal of midfield maestros the likes of Xavi and David Silva has been their ability to control the tempo and never appear rushed.

Despite his tender years, the classy Cain already possesses an innate ability to make the right decision 99 times from 100, regardless of the opposition’s best attempts to stifle him.

He possesses an exemplary first touch and will always seek to play forward if the situation allows. If not, he has already shown the calmness and composure required to shelve his ego and keep it short and simple.


Describing his natural ability to carve open defences, Cain said in a June interview with the club’s official website: “Since a young age I’ve been a very good passer. I can see passes which the opposition can’t defend really well. I like to get into positions where I’m behind the defence and thread balls through.”

But his most eye-catching attribute is undoubtedly those deadly set pieces.

Concede a free kick within 30 yards of goal at your peril. Cain can (and has) tucked them away from just about anywhere.

Reminds you of a young…?
Early comparisons have been made between himself and Jordan Henderson, but whether he develops the drive, determination and leadership that typify a Henderson performance won’t become clear in his formative years at elite level. His current body size and shape certainly don’t lend themselves to comparisons with such a robust performer right now.

Instead, his technical prowess reminds us of the Chelsea iteration of Juan Mata.


The Spaniard scooped up back-to-back club player of the year awards while with The Blues as his pinpoint set pieces and precision through balls racked up 30 league assists across a two-year span.

Cain too appears destined to excel in the role of provider, though with three goals to his name from seven Premier League 2 matches this season, expect him to contribute his fair share of goals along the way, à la Phil Foden.

A quite outstanding 19 assists from 42 league appearances have been notched with Liverpool’s various youth teams over the last three years.

Cue a wide grin forming on the faces of Messrs Mane and Salah as we speak.[/article]

Yeah but is he abel though ?
 
How's he looking? Think he could make it? The very little I've seen of him, I don't think he has enough, unfortunately.

I think he can make it somewhere. Whether that's here or not it's probably too early to judge. The positive thing is that he's progressed really well in the past couple of years, he's been given duties as captain at times, and he's scored some decent goals, and different goals. Nothing dramatic so far, but no reason yet to give up on him.
 
I think he can make it somewhere. Whether that's here or not it's probably too early to judge. The positive thing is that he's progressed really well in the past couple of years, he's been given duties as captain at times, and he's scored some decent goals, and different goals. Nothing dramatic so far, but no reason yet to give up on him.

Cheers for that.

I don't really know him, but his mum and dad will keep him on the straight and narrow, so hopefully he has a good career ahead of him.
 
19 only matters to Paul Hardcastle. It's just a silly argument. If you're Luton Town, then, sure, you'd better break through by then, but it's stupid to be that dogmatic when the team is at the top. He was only given a contract last year, for christs sake. Salah was over 20 before he started playing regularly at a decent level. It's one more of those stupid 'look at me' non-arguments.

I totally agree with this- there’s loads of players who didn’t make their debut until their 20’s.

Van Dijk wasn’t a regular until he was 20 - he made his debut in & first start 6 weeks before turning 20 in a couple of end of season games.

Harry Kane was in his 20’s before he became a regular for Spurs.

Arguably failing at Liverpool as a youngster is more about our 1st team squad strength and how we manage and blood our youngsters at the top level.

Also fan perception- I kinda feel for Sepp Van Den Berg - he’s 18 and people expect him to be Virgil-like and have written him off.

He’s got 2 years of development to see whether the raw skills and abilities that set him apart from his contemporaries - he’s already ahead of Van Dijk in terms of where they where at at the same stage of their career (SVDB’s debut was against the team VVD made his debut for).

It sounds like Cain has an interesting skill set - learning alongside Thiago would be good for him.
 
Regarding Van den Berg it's not about his skill imo, it's about his attitude. I've written him off because when I see him play I don't see the same grit and determination other players in the development teams have. Maybe I'm exaggerating but I wouldn't be surprised if he just quits playing football in a few years.
 
"I try to inspire people," Fidel O'Rourke explained after signing his first professional contract at Liverpool in the summer.

This was no soundbite from the 18-year-old striker.

His scoring statistics might not be as eye-catching as team-mate and strike-partner Layton Stewart but O'Rourke, from Wavetree, possesses the attributes Jurgen Klopp loves; work-rate, enthusiasm and a willingness to get stuck in and help those around him.

Liverpool described his journey as a Roy of the Rovers tale when announcing the deal and they are not wrong. O'Rourke only joined the academy as an under-14 and, at one point, there was a feeling he might not earn a scholarship at Kirkby.
But he has flourished over the last 12 months.

He was made captain at under-18 level by Barry Lewtas before forming a red-hot partnership with Stewart and went on to agree a new deal with his boyhood club.

"It means an awful lot to me having come through the academy, because I joined quite late so I didn't know whether I could do it at this club," O'Rourke said."But luckily enough for me I did and it means the world to me.

"Being born in Liverpool and supporting the club all my life, this just means everything to me and my family."

A team player, O'Rourke has proved the ideal foil for Stewart, who has been identified as one to watch by coaching staff at the academy.

Yet the duo have ultimately helped each other thrive.

"I've always been quite close to Layton, even when I first came to the club and he was a year below," O'Rourke added.

"He is great to play alongside because he is so fast. We link off each other quite well and we know what each of us is going to try to do."

O'Rourke has impressed Liverpool not just with his performances, either. In private, his grounded, level-headed and affable personality has been noted.

With the teenager now set to make the step-up to u-23 level, he is aiming to find his feet in reserve-team football and continue making an impact.

The new £50m training facility at Kirkby will house both senior and youth teams and he will have further opportunities to catch the eye of Klopp.

Another chapter in this Roy of the Rovers story is set to be penned.

O'Rourke is becoming an inspiration for other Liverpool prospects in his own way.
 

[article]There was a new face in Liverpool training this week as the first-team ramp up preparations ahead of their Premier League bout with Crystal Palace at Selhurst Park on Saturday.

Owen Beck was spotted at Liverpool’s AXA Training Centre in Kirkby just a few weeks after he put pen-to-paper on a bumper new deal with the Reds.

Liverpool have been tying down their best talent over the past eight months
, and the latest player handed a promotion to the first-team set-up comes from a very famous family background.

Beck, 18, is the nephew of Liverpool’s legendary striker Ian Rush – who is the club’s all-time top goalscorer.

An established Wales youth international, Beck – who has been a regular with the under-23 team this season – initially had ambitions on being a forward like Rush having started out as an attacking midfielder.

The teenager, however, has instead taken on a role as an attacking full-back and has put in some encouraging performances for U23’s coach Barry Lewtas this term.

Beck joined the Reds academy from Stoke City at U13 level and has progressed through the age groups ever since.

He recently agreed his first professional contract with Liverpool earlier this year and has now committed to extending his stay with the club.

His attacking qualities from full-back came to the fore for the young Reds back in November 2019 when Beck scored a dramatic late winner at Southampton u-18s in a 3-2 victory.

Rush, for his part, has taken a prominent interest in Beck’s promising career and has offered guidance where he can, but is keen to not be overbearing his progress.

Beck has similar physical characteristics to Liverpool’s Andy Robertson, and like the Scotland captain, Beck also loves bombing forward down that left flank and has a keen eye for goal.

Having been invited to link-up with Jurgen Klopp’s senior set-up – and a new deal firmly under his belt – Beck has the platform to continue pushing towards first-team recognition at the home of the English champions.
[/article]
 
It makes sense that Beck's been brought into the first team squad - he's a left back, and there simply has to be someone to give Robbo the odd break until Tsimikas comes back.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom