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Leicester City vs Liverpool ( Match Thread)

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Ukrainian by marriage said:
Reminded me a lot of Ronnie Yeats, But then, I am an old git.
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Really? Both great players but I wouldn't have said they were anything like one another. Ron Yeats was by some distance the bigger of the two and an old-fashioned but very effective stopper, whereas Moore was great at tidying up and starting attacks from deep.
 
We kept hold of the ball in tricky situations just prior to Alisson's fuck up. I had a feeling he'd try play it around to continue the cocky way we were trying to play out.
Not much has been made of it in the media has it? I think being top of the league has helped gloss over it.
 
ILD said:
We kept hold of the ball in tricky situations just prior to Alisson's fuck up. I had a feeling he'd try play it around to continue the cocky way we were trying to play out.
Not much has been made of it in the media has it? I think being top of the league has helped gloss over it.
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Hahahahahahaha!

"Jeepers Keepers" featured on at least two different back pages.
 
We could have cleared it twice before his fuck up, and he could have hit it long as well. The back pass to him was pretty bad, but in the end he misjudged the situation and fucked up.
He knows he shouldnt do that again, but as Klopp said we have to be smarter in those situations and decide when we can play it back to him and not.

Good thing is it happened in a match we won. He learns, the team learns and can move on.
 
Hansern said:
We could have cleared it twice before his fuck up, and he could have hit it long as well. The back pass to him was pretty bad, but in the end he misjudged the situation and fucked up.
He knows he shouldnt do that again, but as Klopp said we have to be smarter in those situations and decide when we can play it back to him and not.

Good thing is it happened in a match we won. He learns, the team learns and can move on.
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I don't really agree with that, or what Klopp said about being too reliant on the keeper and backpasses. Fine, the pass from Virgil wasn't the best, and the mistake was *horrific*, but I like being able to use the keeper and it's especially good when you have one like ours, who is comfortable and uses the ball well.

And this isn't me being all fucking "Guardiola", or Unai Emery - whose ongoing mission to make Cech play out with his feet is one of the early season highlights for me - the more passing options we have the better, and having a goalie who is a passing option is great.

Plus we haven't won a fucking league title since they introduced the backpass rule. We won titles on being able to pass back to the keeper. I think I like us doing it now.
 
manwithnoname said:
I don't really agree with that, or what Klopp said about being too reliant on the keeper and backpasses. Fine, the pass from Virgil wasn't the best, and the mistake was *horrific*, but I like being able to use the keeper and it's especially good when you have one like ours, who is comfortable and uses the ball well.

And this isn't me being all fucking "Guardiola", or Unai Emery - whose ongoing mission to make Cech play out with his feet is one of the early season highlights for me - the more passing options we have the better, and having a goalie who is a passing option is great.

Plus we haven't won a fucking league title since they introduced the backpass rule. We won titles on being able to pass back to the keeper. I think I like us doing it now.
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Poor Cech nearly scored an own goal trying to play it out.
 
manwithnoname said:
I don't really agree with that, or what Klopp said about being too reliant on the keeper and backpasses. Fine, the pass from Virgil wasn't the best, and the mistake was *horrific*, but I like being able to use the keeper and it's especially good when you have one like ours, who is comfortable and uses the ball well.

And this isn't me being all fucking "Guardiola", or Unai Emery - whose ongoing mission to make Cech play out with his feet is one of the early season highlights for me - the more passing options we have the better, and having a goalie who is a passing option is great.

Plus we haven't won a fucking league title since they introduced the backpass rule. We won titles on being able to pass back to the keeper. I think I like us doing it now.
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Yeah, I agree with that and I think we should be able to play it back to him and use him actively. But I also think that we as a team should be smarter in those situations and that its more an option rather than a must/necessity.
If you are under pressure, maybe even more so in away games, then maybe kicking it out and 2-0 isnt the worst idea instead of inviting pressure. But in the end though, it was a horrific fuck up off him regardless. He should have just kicked it out. Its something I hope we wont see again, as he looked class in that game apart from the mistake, as he has since the start of the season.
 
Hansern said:
Yeah, I agree with that and I think we should be able to play it back to him and use him actively. But I also think that we as a team should be smarter in those situations and that its more an option rather than a must/necessity.
If you are under pressure, maybe even more so in away games, then maybe kicking it out and 2-0 isnt the worst idea instead of inviting pressure. But in the end though, it was a horrific fuck up off him regardless. He should have just kicked it out. Its something I hope we wont see again, as he looked class in that game apart from the mistake, as he has since the start of the season.
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Yeah, we have looked very sound in defence, and it's a promising start indeed.
 
Maybe next time Virgil might also think twice about passing back and whack it forward himself.
 
manwithnoname said:
I don't really agree with that, or what Klopp said about being too reliant on the keeper and backpasses. Fine, the pass from Virgil wasn't the best, and the mistake was *horrific*, but I like being able to use the keeper and it's especially good when you have one like ours, who is comfortable and uses the ball well.

And this isn't me being all fucking "Guardiola", or Unai Emery - whose ongoing mission to make Cech play out with his feet is one of the early season highlights for me - the more passing options we have the better, and having a goalie who is a passing option is great.

Plus we haven't won a fucking league title since they introduced the backpass rule. We won titles on being able to pass back to the keeper. I think I like us doing it now.
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Completely agree.
 
Judge Jules said:
Really? Both great players but I wouldn't have said they were anything like one another. Ron Yeats was by some distance the bigger of the two and an old-fashioned but very effective stopper, whereas Moore was great at tidying up and starting attacks from deep.
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It was the long leg making the successful last ditch tackle. I was right back in the 60s ...
(I agree Gomez is better on the ball , starting things from the back).
 
So Gomez is now the new Alan Hansen, except he can head a ball, tackle and is very quick, so is actually miles better than Hansen really.
 
I know that's the received wisdom about him, but I don't agree with it. When the need arose he was no slouch. You hardly ever saw him raise a gallop but he definitely could on the rare occasions when he had to.
 
Judge Jules said:
I know that's the received wisdom about him, but I don't agree with it. When the need arose he was no slouch. You hardly ever saw him raise a gallop but he definitely could on the rare occasions when he had to.
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He was slow. Even in comparison with other defenders of his day. In this day and age he would be iceberg slow.

He could run. Obviously. Just not very fast.
 
Oncy said:
He was slow. Even in comparison with other defenders of his day. In this day and age he would be iceberg slow.

He could run. Obviously. Just not very fast.
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Woah, wait a sec! He wasn't speedy - that was Lawrenson's job - but I don't think he was that slow that it would have been remarkable in 1984 or whatever.

Plus we've had a few less than pacy centre-backs in the "modern era" like Hyypia, and he still did OK. I doubt Hansen was so slow that he would even have made Sami look like Sadio Mane.
 
manwithnoname said:
Woah, wait a sec! He wasn't speedy - that was Lawrenson's job - but I don't think he was that slow that it would have been remarkable in 1984 or whatever.

Plus we've had a few less than pacy centre-backs in the "modern era" like Hyypia, and he still did OK. I doubt Hansen was so slow that he would even have made Sami look like Sadio Mane.
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Im not having a pop. He is my all time favourite Liverpool player. But he was a slow player. It never seemed to matter.
 
Not quite mine (the King takes that title) but certainly my favourite ever Liverpool CB.

As for "slow", it seldom happened but there were occasions when Jocky had to cover perhaps a 10-yard stretch in a hurry, and he was rarely if ever shown up at such times. The fact that he didn't often bother doesn't mean he wasn't capable of it, and there were (isolated) occasions when he made it clear that he was.
 
ibromurph said:
I was never really worried about them scoring after the howler, except from set pieces.

"We didn't control the ball, but we controlled the space." (Brendan 14).

They didn't really get into the areas we didn't want them to get into. VVD and Gomez were rock solid with everything that came their way too.
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Brendan 14, is that like quoting Genesis 10-23 then ?
 
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