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Klopp open to 'exciting' Premier League move

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I've read across a number of threads now this idea that FSG may be simply buying their time with Rodgers or that perhaps that the clearing out of backroom staff is an attempt to force him out on the cheap. And there seems to be the impression that they might be acting shrewdly here? Is that right?

FSG want their heads examining if that's what's happening here. We need to be establishing a baseline from which to kick on from, to get back into the CL. To do that we need to build properly this summer and start the season like we mean business. Competition is going to be fierce next year and we need to be ready.

All of this "see how Rogers does for a few months and then maybe bring someone else in" is fucking insane.

I'd like to believe, as leftpeg said, that they've made their intentions clear by not sacking Rodgers because at least it means our owners are decisive and understand the need to be so. If they're fannying about still wondering what they need to do then we're fucked.
 
I've read across a number of threads now this idea that FSG may be simply buying their time with Rodgers or that perhaps that the clearing out of backroom staff is an attempt to force him out on the cheap. And there seems to be the impression that they might be acting shrewdly here? Is that right?

FSG want their heads examining if that's what's happening here. We need to be establishing a baseline from which to kick on from, to get back into the CL. To do that we need to build properly this summer and start the season like we mean business. Competition is going to be fierce next year and we need to be ready.

All of this "see how Rogers does for a few months and then maybe bring someone else in" is fucking insane.

I'd like to believe, as leftpeg said, that they've made their intentions clear by not sacking Rodgers because at least it means our owners are decisive and understand the need to be so. If they're fannying about still wondering what they need to do then we're fucked.


I think people would just rather believe anything than that our owners would choose Rodgers over Klopp. No matter how mental.
 
Can anyone more in the know than me tell us if klopp has his own team (as in assistant manager & coaches he brings with him), cos if so, & we start bringing in new ones, that would be the biggest sign that they are being above board sticking with Rodgers.

If they don't then I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility that they're stringing him along in order to secure the new manager & DoF before they show him the door.
 
I've read across a number of threads now this idea that FSG may be simply buying their time with Rodgers or that perhaps that the clearing out of backroom staff is an attempt to force him out on the cheap. And there seems to be the impression that they might be acting shrewdly here? Is that right?

FSG want their heads examining if that's what's happening here. We need to be establishing a baseline from which to kick on from, to get back into the CL. To do that we need to build properly this summer and start the season like we mean business. Competition is going to be fierce next year and we need to be ready.

All of this "see how Rogers does for a few months and then maybe bring someone else in" is fucking insane.

I'd like to believe, as leftpeg said, that they've made their intentions clear by not sacking Rodgers because at least it means our owners are decisive and understand the need to be so. If they're fannying about still wondering what they need to do then we're fucked.
I think it's either one of two scenarios.

1. They're playing lip service to him so if they can't get a better replacement in then they're not left with no one.

2. The decision makers were split or undecided & as a result they've given Rodgers time to prove himself with no fall guys or excuses to rely upon, so if he does fuck up again the ones who wanted him to stay can't argue, or if undecided, it puts a line under the argument against him.

I honestly can't see any other reason why they would stick with him.
 
Why would they be buying players like they are if the manager was going? If Klopp came in and didn't fancy Milner or Ings and identified his own targets wouldn't they be a waste of money?
I don't buy that FSG are doing anything to undermine or get rid of Rodgers. Surely they would just tell him to sling his hook?
All very odd.
 
Why would they be buying players like they are if the manager was going? If Klopp came in and didn't fancy Milner or Ings and identified his own targets wouldn't they be a waste of money?
I don't buy that FSG are doing anything to undermine or get rid of Rodgers. Surely they would just tell him to sling his hook?
All very odd.

Pretty much, it doesn't make sense otherwise, whether people agree with the decision or not. I don't for one minute think they're keeping Rodgers dangling.
 
I think it's either one of two scenarios.

1. They're playing lip service to him so if they can't get a better replacement in then they're not left with no one.

2. The decision makers were split or undecided & as a result they've given Rodgers time to prove himself with no fall guys or excuses to rely upon, so if he does fuck up again the ones who wanted him to stay can't argue, or if undecided, it puts a line under the argument against him.

I honestly can't see any other reason why they would stick with him.


Or they think he is the right man for the job. His suggestions to the transfer committee weren't listened to and he was proved right over the course of the year. They're listening to him more so this summer, so he'll have no excuses at the end of the year.
 
Or they think he is the right man for the job. His suggestions to the transfer committee weren't listened to and he was proved right over the course of the year. They're listening to him more so this summer, so he'll have no excuses at the end of the year.

This sounds a good possibility. He may well be pointing at signings he didn't really want as a reason. But surely they could come back at him with Borini and Allen etc. It does seem strange that the backroom people he brought in are given the push. What the hell actually went on in the 'season review'?

And does anyone think FSG are seriously considering Klopp? If not, then who in the PL would like Klopp as their manager? I can only think of Citeh really. They are cut-throat enough to sack Pelligrini and install Klopp I think. But who else? United – no, Spurs – no, Chelsea, no – Arsenal, no. Whjo does that leave that he would like to manage?
West Ham are appointing Bilic, Newcastle appointing MacClaren.
Maybe he'll wait for someone to get sacked in the new season and go from there. Which could well be Rodgers if we start the season like we started or ended the last one.
 
I think it's either one of two scenarios.

1. They're playing lip service to him so if they can't get a better replacement in then they're not left with no one.

2. The decision makers were split or undecided & as a result they've given Rodgers time to prove himself with no fall guys or excuses to rely upon, so if he does fuck up again the ones who wanted him to stay can't argue, or if undecided, it puts a line under the argument against him.

I honestly can't see any other reason why they would stick with him.


I think a lot of the Klopp stuff is wishful thinking. If it was in their minds to sack him, surely he'd be gone by now and not involved with planning for next season.

When you weigh up the cost of sacking Rodgers and his team against the cost of messing up the upcoming season and missing out on the CL, it's just not much of a consideration.
 
Can anyone more in the know than me tell us if klopp has his own team (as in assistant manager & coaches he brings with him), cos if so, & we start bringing in new ones, that would be the biggest sign that they are being above board sticking with Rodgers.

If they don't then I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility that they're stringing him along in order to secure the new manager & DoF before they show him the door.


Peter Krawietz and Zeljko Buvac were the 2 backroom staffs who made the move from Mainz together with Klopp to Dortmund.

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[article=http://www2.bvb.de/?%81%9D%5C%1B%E4%F4%9D%2Ao%E3%86%9E]Peter Krawietz joined Borussia Dortmund from FSV Mainz at the same time as Jürgen Klopp. Alongside his role as assistant coach a lot of his time is spent dissecting video footage of BVB and their opponents. “I also keep a close eye on the amateur and junior set ups at the club. I strive to communicate to the staff in these areas just what the professional section wants from them.”

Krawietz never played professional football and describes himself as an “enthusiastic amateur.” He gave up the game when he was 25 having realised that his sporting ambitions were unlikely to be matched by his sporting abilities. This realisation edged Krawietz towards a career in coaching.
He got to know Jürgen Klopp when they worked together for many years in Mainz. Krawietz had begun working there in 1996 as part of a project investigating the possibilities of video analysis. According to Krawietz, Klopp was the player who showed most interest in the work he was doing. The project led to Krawietz taking up a paid role at the club and when Klopp became head coach Krawietz worked as a scout for FSV. Upon promotion, Krawietz was tasked with setting up his own scouting system.

When Jürgen Klopp told his best man that he would very much like to take him to Dortmund with him, Krawietz asked for a night to think about it. It didn’t take long to come to the conclusion that he would move to Dortmund when his wife Martina encouraged him to take this huge opportunity.

At BVB he has introduced the use of video analysis during the half-time interval. For two or three minutes the team are shown footage of mistaken runs, positional errors as well as suggested weaknesses in their opponents.
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[article=http://www2.bvb.de/?%81%9D%5C%1B%E4%F4%9D%2Ao%E3%86%9F]Zeljko Buvac and Jürgen Klopp have known each other since 1992 when they both took the field in the services of FSV Mainz. While Klopp morphed from a striker to a defender, Buvac was a mainstay midfield strategist. They became good friends and remained in touch in the post Mainz years. Buvac moved on to play for SC Neukirchen and, having obtained his coaching badges, became first assistant coach, then the main man at the club.

When, in 2001, things weren’t going too well at FSV, Klopp was asked to take over the reins as coach and swiftly made the call to Buvac asking him to be his number two. It was a decision they had taken together years before, namely that if one or other got a chance in the professional game as coach, the other would get him on board too. Despite having three years more experience on the sidelines than the untried Klopp, Buvac was only too pleased to accept the offer of the job. Since then he has always been much more than a cone distributor for Jürgen Klopp. He is right-hand man (and so much more) on the training ground. “Zeljko is the embodiment of all things football and a master of every form of training,” is Klopp’s description of his assistant. Indeed, such is his wealth of knowledge that he is often referred to as “The Brain”. Buvac: “I don’t mind, they could call me a lot worse, it’s okay,”

Looking back on the last couple of years, Buvac commented, “The success we have enjoyed is down to plain hard work. But we have had a lot of fun along the way as well.” The man can be found at the training ground from early morning ‘til late at night and along with Klopp and Krawietz he has put pen to paper on a new contract. So, that means the successful trio will be with us until, at least, June 2016.[/article]
 
Why would they be buying players like they are if the manager was going? If Klopp came in and didn't fancy Milner or Ings and identified his own targets wouldn't they be a waste of money?
I don't buy that FSG are doing anything to undermine or get rid of Rodgers. Surely they would just tell him to sling his hook?
All very odd.


Klopp would not have a huge say on the signing under a DOF structure anyway.. so this could be irrelevant..

Under FSG Ideal.. the manager would have very little say under a DOF structure..
 
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Zeljko Buvac (left) pictured here with Peter Krawietz. Buvac is quite the taktisch meister. Always seen mit der lederhosen, whatever the wetter, he is much beleibt by der fans. Krawietz is sehr gut mit der 'Ja, Boss!'
 
Can't see the logic behind that. We have talks with Klopp at a preliminary stage but run into a few issues, maybe over a DoF and interest from others, then his agent signals he will accept the club's terms and is ready to talk again.

Something is going on behind the scenes, we are working on a new top-down structure I reckon and if it is a new DoF we may be waiting for him to take his seat with his first decision to be on the manager.

My point is that if we were in talks at any point then the agent would ring us up to state their position instead of going through a paper. Unless he feels like he needs fans support to push it through, which doesn't seem likely
 
So FSG are calling his bluff? I don't buy that for a minute. If anything, last week was the perect opportunity to force a mutual consent end and to agree a compensation package, instead they've backed him and now run the risk of sacking him and having a big payoff on their hands. The theory just doesn't make sense. They've decided to stick, for now at least.

Rodgers wouldn't take a compensation package if he was entitled to more $ by getting sacked.
 
I've read across a number of threads now this idea that FSG may be simply buying their time with Rodgers or that perhaps that the clearing out of backroom staff is an attempt to force him out on the cheap. And there seems to be the impression that they might be acting shrewdly here? Is that right?

FSG want their heads examining if that's what's happening here. We need to be establishing a baseline from which to kick on from, to get back into the CL. To do that we need to build properly this summer and start the season like we mean business. Competition is going to be fierce next year and we need to be ready.

All of this "see how Rogers does for a few months and then maybe bring someone else in" is fucking insane.

I'd like to believe, as leftpeg said, that they've made their intentions clear by not sacking Rodgers because at least it means our owners are decisive and understand the need to be so. If they're fannying about still wondering what they need to do then we're fucked.


One thing they've done well in Baseball is exactly that, being decisive with manager appointments with some success (3 World series in 10 years).

I think it's naive to think they have no idea what they're doing and are fannying around if any intention to sack Rodgers.
 
It wouldn't be Liverpool if there weren't conspiracy theories and strange happenings nowadays.

I wish we still had people like John Smith and PBR about. Or people of their ilk. Professionals without ever seeking the limelight. I'm not sure there are many like them left.
 
One thing they've done well in Baseball is exactly that, being decisive with manager appointments with some success (3 World series in 10 years).

I think it's naive to think they have no idea what they're doing and are fannying around if any intention to sack Rodgers.

Bobby Valentine?

Terry Francona was, for a long part of FSG's time, the Red Sox manager, winning 2 world series and ending their drought. FSG decided it was time to move on and set about dirtying his name in the press before giving him the boot.

So if someone as important to the Red Sox history was treated like that, then I'd expect to see the press being briefed about how much of a stupid cock Rodgers is before giving him the boot. Then again, there wouldn't be too many people upset if he did get the boot.

I think the theory posited that they're undermining Rodgers so he'll walk away is nonsense. Keniget rightly pointed out the cost of sacking him is a lot less than a years CL money.
 
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