frankly if the choice is between uncle woy and kenny then I want kenny. we are talking a year MAX before new owners (if it takes longer we'll go into administration, no question). kenny can go back to basic and steady the ship until then.
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40476.msg1116127#msg1116127 date=1276069651]
frankly if the choice is between uncle woy and kenny then I want kenny. we are talking a year MAX before new owners (if it takes longer we'll go into administration, no question). kenny can go back to basic and steady the ship until then.
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Back to basic... Describe back to basic?
frankly if the choice is between uncle woy and kenny then I want kenny. we are talking a year MAX before new owners (if it takes longer we'll go into administration, no question). kenny can go back to basic and steady the ship until then.
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Back to basic... Describe back to basic?
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40476.msg1116127#msg1116127 date=1276069651]
frankly if the choice is between uncle woy and kenny then I want kenny. we are talking a year MAX before new owners (if it takes longer we'll go into administration, no question). kenny can go back to basic and steady the ship until then.
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Back to basic... Describe back to basic?
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balanced team, best players available for every position. if someone suggests we were doing that last season I'm going to have to laugh.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40476.msg1116127#msg1116127 date=1276069651]
frankly if the choice is between uncle woy and kenny then I want kenny. we are talking a year MAX before new owners (if it takes longer we'll go into administration, no question). kenny can go back to basic and steady the ship until then.
[/quote]
Back to basic... Describe back to basic?
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balanced team, best players available for every position. if someone suggests we were doing that last season I'm going to have to laugh.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40476.msg1116125#msg1116125 date=1276069487]
[quote author=KopPoNok link=topic=40476.msg1116123#msg1116123 date=1276069216]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=40476.msg1116114#msg1116114 date=1276068763]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40476.msg1116097#msg1116097 date=1276067996]
Uncle Woy's appointment will certainly mean that all of our top players will want to stay, and reap the benefits of the tactical genius who won the title with Malmo
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To be fair, weren't Owen and Gerrard the ones rooting for Curbishley when Ged went? I'm guessing whether it's Uncle Roy or some foreign manager it'll have little bearing on whether they stay because short term at least, it's fairly obvious whatever we do we won't be winning the title.
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Not sure about Torres, but Gerrard might be off to have a taste of being league champion.
He's no longer a spring onion and probably won't sit around and wait for miracle to happen, unless we have a new owner before the world cup ends.
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tee hee 🙂
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Yes, that's Jason Cunty.
[quote author=KopPoNok link=topic=40476.msg1116123#msg1116123 date=1276069216]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=40476.msg1116114#msg1116114 date=1276068763]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40476.msg1116097#msg1116097 date=1276067996]
Uncle Woy's appointment will certainly mean that all of our top players will want to stay, and reap the benefits of the tactical genius who won the title with Malmo
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To be fair, weren't Owen and Gerrard the ones rooting for Curbishley when Ged went? I'm guessing whether it's Uncle Roy or some foreign manager it'll have little bearing on whether they stay because short term at least, it's fairly obvious whatever we do we won't be winning the title.
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Not sure about Torres, but Gerrard might be off to have a taste of being league champion.
He's no longer a spring onion and probably won't sit around and wait for miracle to happen, unless we have a new owner before the world cup ends.
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tee hee 🙂
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Yes, that's Jason Cunty.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40476.msg1116132#msg1116132 date=1276070022]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=40476.msg1116129#msg1116129 date=1276069796]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40476.msg1116127#msg1116127 date=1276069651]
frankly if the choice is between uncle woy and kenny then I want kenny. we are talking a year MAX before new owners (if it takes longer we'll go into administration, no question). kenny can go back to basic and steady the ship until then.
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Back to basic... Describe back to basic?
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balanced team, best players available for every position. if someone suggests we were doing that last season I'm going to have to laugh.
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But that is the least you can expect from a manager. Last season was not a tranit season were we didnt expect nyhting. The expectations before the seasomn was to fight for the title and at least semis in CL?
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=40476.msg1116129#msg1116129 date=1276069796]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40476.msg1116127#msg1116127 date=1276069651]
frankly if the choice is between uncle woy and kenny then I want kenny. we are talking a year MAX before new owners (if it takes longer we'll go into administration, no question). kenny can go back to basic and steady the ship until then.
[/quote]
Back to basic... Describe back to basic?
[/quote]
balanced team, best players available for every position. if someone suggests we were doing that last season I'm going to have to laugh.
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But that is the least you can expect from a manager. Last season was not a tranit season were we didnt expect nyhting. The expectations before the seasomn was to fight for the title and at least semis in CL?
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=40476.msg1116140#msg1116140 date=1276070427]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40476.msg1116132#msg1116132 date=1276070022]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=40476.msg1116129#msg1116129 date=1276069796]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40476.msg1116127#msg1116127 date=1276069651]
frankly if the choice is between uncle woy and kenny then I want kenny. we are talking a year MAX before new owners (if it takes longer we'll go into administration, no question). kenny can go back to basic and steady the ship until then.
[/quote]
Back to basic... Describe back to basic?
[/quote]
balanced team, best players available for every position. if someone suggests we were doing that last season I'm going to have to laugh.
[/quote]
But that is the least you can expect from a manager. Last season was not a tranit season were we didnt expect nyhting. The expectations before the seasomn was to fight for the title and at least semis in CL?
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surely playing a balanced team and picking the best available players is valid regardless of whether you are aiming to avoid relagation or challenge for the title?
rafa, love him *mwah!* but last season as an example he could have played the most senior striker (kuyt) when torres was unavailable and played yossi on the right wing, ngog should have been no where near the first team as first choice out and out striker.
then you have the mash/lucas combo 'the creativity vacuum' (TM) (C) it should have taken him at MOST a couple of months to break that up as it PATENTLY wasn't working.
back to basics would have probably saved rafa's job, 'too simple', football is a simple game.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40476.msg1116132#msg1116132 date=1276070022]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=40476.msg1116129#msg1116129 date=1276069796]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40476.msg1116127#msg1116127 date=1276069651]
frankly if the choice is between uncle woy and kenny then I want kenny. we are talking a year MAX before new owners (if it takes longer we'll go into administration, no question). kenny can go back to basic and steady the ship until then.
[/quote]
Back to basic... Describe back to basic?
[/quote]
balanced team, best players available for every position. if someone suggests we were doing that last season I'm going to have to laugh.
[/quote]
But that is the least you can expect from a manager. Last season was not a tranit season were we didnt expect nyhting. The expectations before the seasomn was to fight for the title and at least semis in CL?
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surely playing a balanced team and picking the best available players is valid regardless of whether you are aiming to avoid relagation or challenge for the title?
rafa, love him *mwah!* but last season as an example he could have played the most senior striker (kuyt) when torres was unavailable and played yossi on the right wing, ngog should have been no where near the first team as first choice out and out striker.
then you have the mash/lucas combo 'the creativity vacuum' (TM) (C) it should have taken him at MOST a couple of months to break that up as it PATENTLY wasn't working.
back to basics would have probably saved rafa's job, 'too simple', football is a simple game.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=40476.msg1116066#msg1116066 date=1276065453]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40476.msg1115984#msg1115984 date=1276038691]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40476.msg1115979#msg1115979 date=1276038442]
Well RAWK think it's a wonderful idea, with any dissenters being given a bit of a slap.
Personally, I think it would eventually turn into a disaster for both Kenny and the Club.
regards
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I think I agree, and quite honestly I'm surprised he'd set himself up for a fall like this. He doesn't need to do this, and he's bound to know that he's more likely to fail than succeed if he takes it on. Which would invariably sour how he's viewed within the club over time. People say it wouldn't, but look at Souness.
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I don't think he'd be so open to it without some form of safety net, ie short-term, still looking for long-term solution, etc.. With the tag of 'caretaker' or whatever there will be less pressure, and then if it works well, great, if it doesn't then we can continue looking for a full-time manager.
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Precisely.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40476.msg1115984#msg1115984 date=1276038691]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40476.msg1115979#msg1115979 date=1276038442]
Well RAWK think it's a wonderful idea, with any dissenters being given a bit of a slap.
Personally, I think it would eventually turn into a disaster for both Kenny and the Club.
regards
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I think I agree, and quite honestly I'm surprised he'd set himself up for a fall like this. He doesn't need to do this, and he's bound to know that he's more likely to fail than succeed if he takes it on. Which would invariably sour how he's viewed within the club over time. People say it wouldn't, but look at Souness.
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I don't think he'd be so open to it without some form of safety net, ie short-term, still looking for long-term solution, etc.. With the tag of 'caretaker' or whatever there will be less pressure, and then if it works well, great, if it doesn't then we can continue looking for a full-time manager.
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Precisely.
King Kenny has been back long enough to assess the squad and its strength. Maybe he feels he can do a whole lot better with the same players without a massive budget.
I don't think for a minute that he'll want a long-term appointment. A caretaker role will suit him fine and should he be successful may want to continue. Needless to say with the names bandied about, I'd rather take the King. There is a strong emotional bond and he'll be motivated as ever to produce the results and get us back on our feet.
Many people think that its a romantic notion when its really a practical solution. He gets my vote.
I don't think for a minute that he'll want a long-term appointment. A caretaker role will suit him fine and should he be successful may want to continue. Needless to say with the names bandied about, I'd rather take the King. There is a strong emotional bond and he'll be motivated as ever to produce the results and get us back on our feet.
Many people think that its a romantic notion when its really a practical solution. He gets my vote.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=40476.msg1116066#msg1116066 date=1276065453]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40476.msg1115984#msg1115984 date=1276038691]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40476.msg1115979#msg1115979 date=1276038442]
Well RAWK think it's a wonderful idea, with any dissenters being given a bit of a slap.
Personally, I think it would eventually turn into a disaster for both Kenny and the Club.
regards
[/quote]
I think I agree, and quite honestly I'm surprised he'd set himself up for a fall like this. He doesn't need to do this, and he's bound to know that he's more likely to fail than succeed if he takes it on. Which would invariably sour how he's viewed within the club over time. People say it wouldn't, but look at Souness.
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I don't think he'd be so open to it without some form of safety net, ie short-term, still looking for long-term solution, etc.. With the tag of 'caretaker' or whatever there will be less pressure, and then if it works well, great, if it doesn't then we can continue looking for a full-time manager.
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Yes, he has form for that, bring back John Barnes 😉
regards
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40476.msg1115984#msg1115984 date=1276038691]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40476.msg1115979#msg1115979 date=1276038442]
Well RAWK think it's a wonderful idea, with any dissenters being given a bit of a slap.
Personally, I think it would eventually turn into a disaster for both Kenny and the Club.
regards
[/quote]
I think I agree, and quite honestly I'm surprised he'd set himself up for a fall like this. He doesn't need to do this, and he's bound to know that he's more likely to fail than succeed if he takes it on. Which would invariably sour how he's viewed within the club over time. People say it wouldn't, but look at Souness.
[/quote]
I don't think he'd be so open to it without some form of safety net, ie short-term, still looking for long-term solution, etc.. With the tag of 'caretaker' or whatever there will be less pressure, and then if it works well, great, if it doesn't then we can continue looking for a full-time manager.
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Yes, he has form for that, bring back John Barnes 😉
regards
If we want to retain top players, go into a new season all pulling together (board, players, fans alike) and with the understanding that Kenny Dalglish would be helping through transition to new owners, I think it's our best bet.
Dalglish has the status, respect and trust amongst all, he's a canny fella; I can't see him taking it if he didn't think he was up to it. He would also restore some much needed respect to our club which has become a circus. His reputation alone means opponents would at least take us seriously.
And already we can see we are hopelessly divided about who may become Manager, reducing our expectations by the day; and forecasting a struggle ahead. Hodgson may be a steady hand but he doesn't carry the gravitas that Dalglish does.
Dalglish has the status, respect and trust amongst all, he's a canny fella; I can't see him taking it if he didn't think he was up to it. He would also restore some much needed respect to our club which has become a circus. His reputation alone means opponents would at least take us seriously.
And already we can see we are hopelessly divided about who may become Manager, reducing our expectations by the day; and forecasting a struggle ahead. Hodgson may be a steady hand but he doesn't carry the gravitas that Dalglish does.
What we really want to happen is for new fat-cat owners to turn up with a top manager who gets us all excited.
I wouldn't like to see a "caretaker manager" appointed, least of all Kenny. At this time of year, the main issue for a manager is improving the squad by selling and buying players on the transfer market. A caretaker manager would not be able to do this because any decisions taken could be completely contrary to what the eventual "permanent" manager might have wanted.
I wouldn't like to see a "caretaker manager" appointed, least of all Kenny. At this time of year, the main issue for a manager is improving the squad by selling and buying players on the transfer market. A caretaker manager would not be able to do this because any decisions taken could be completely contrary to what the eventual "permanent" manager might have wanted.
[quote author=Portly link=topic=40476.msg1116213#msg1116213 date=1276077506]
What we really want to happen is for new fat-cat owners to turn up with a top manager who gets us all excited.
I wouldn't like to see a "caretaker manager" appointed, least of all Kenny. At this time of year, the main issue for a manager is improving the squad by selling and buying players on the transfer market. A caretaker manager would not be able to do this because any decisions taken could be completely contrary to what the eventual "permanent" manager might have wanted.
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I made the assumption that we wouldn't have any money to spend* and need to keep the players we have.
*Only sales would raise cash for purchases.
What we really want to happen is for new fat-cat owners to turn up with a top manager who gets us all excited.
I wouldn't like to see a "caretaker manager" appointed, least of all Kenny. At this time of year, the main issue for a manager is improving the squad by selling and buying players on the transfer market. A caretaker manager would not be able to do this because any decisions taken could be completely contrary to what the eventual "permanent" manager might have wanted.
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I made the assumption that we wouldn't have any money to spend* and need to keep the players we have.
*Only sales would raise cash for purchases.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40476.msg1116144#msg1116144 date=1276071280]
rafa, love him *mwah!* but last season as an example he could have played the most senior striker (kuyt) when torres was unavailable and played yossi on the right wing, ngog should have been no where near the first team as first choice out and out striker.
then you have the mash/lucas combo 'the creativity vacuum' (TM) (C) it should have taken him at MOST a couple of months to break that up as it PATENTLY wasn't working.
back to basics would have probably saved rafa's job, 'too simple', football is a simple game.
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Agree with a fair bit of that Neil.
rafa, love him *mwah!* but last season as an example he could have played the most senior striker (kuyt) when torres was unavailable and played yossi on the right wing, ngog should have been no where near the first team as first choice out and out striker.
then you have the mash/lucas combo 'the creativity vacuum' (TM) (C) it should have taken him at MOST a couple of months to break that up as it PATENTLY wasn't working.
back to basics would have probably saved rafa's job, 'too simple', football is a simple game.
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Agree with a fair bit of that Neil.
I'm not thinking rationally about this. But fuck rationality, it doesn't always help.
FATE IS KNOCKING AT THE DOOR
We are a romantic club. Let this be the most romantic football story ever told. Maybe he'll do more than keep us going, perhaps he will stop Utd from overtaking us.
FATE IS KNOCKING AT THE DOOR
We are a romantic club. Let this be the most romantic football story ever told. Maybe he'll do more than keep us going, perhaps he will stop Utd from overtaking us.
Have you been on the toilet cleaner again Robin?
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=40476.msg1116288#msg1116288 date=1276084917]
I'm not thinking rationally about this. But fuck rationality, it doesn't always help.
FATE IS KNOCKING AT THE DOOR
We are a romantic club. Let this be the most romantic football story ever told. Maybe he'll do more than keep us going, perhaps he will stop Utd from overtaking us.
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Finally, a kindred spirit.
I'm not thinking rationally about this. But fuck rationality, it doesn't always help.
FATE IS KNOCKING AT THE DOOR
We are a romantic club. Let this be the most romantic football story ever told. Maybe he'll do more than keep us going, perhaps he will stop Utd from overtaking us.
[/quote]
Finally, a kindred spirit.
[quote author=robinhood link=topic=40476.msg1116288#msg1116288 date=1276084917]
I'm not thinking rationally about this. But fuck rationality, it doesn't always help.
FATE IS KNOCKING AT THE DOOR
We are a romantic club. Let this be the most romantic football story ever told. Maybe he'll do more than keep us going, perhaps he will stop Utd from overtaking us.
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Fuck it.... bad idea or not.... im with you!
we are utterly fucked anyway till we get cured of the cancer owning us so why not appoint Kenny, at least you'll know it means something to him.
I'm not thinking rationally about this. But fuck rationality, it doesn't always help.
FATE IS KNOCKING AT THE DOOR
We are a romantic club. Let this be the most romantic football story ever told. Maybe he'll do more than keep us going, perhaps he will stop Utd from overtaking us.
[/quote]
Fuck it.... bad idea or not.... im with you!
we are utterly fucked anyway till we get cured of the cancer owning us so why not appoint Kenny, at least you'll know it means something to him.
[quote author=Portly link=topic=40476.msg1116333#msg1116333 date=1276090000]
I've just forked out £732 for my season ticket - it's all very well for you guys to take off into a cloud of sentimental romance, but I want to see some value for my money! :🙂
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Value for money? You're gonna need one of these.............
I've just forked out £732 for my season ticket - it's all very well for you guys to take off into a cloud of sentimental romance, but I want to see some value for my money! :🙂
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Value for money? You're gonna need one of these.............
anyone who wants to sell their season ticket, I'll have it. I let my season ticket go and have regreted it ever since.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40476.msg1116339#msg1116339 date=1276091035]
anyone who wants to sell their season ticket, I'll have it. I let my season ticket go and have regreted it ever since.
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Phone up and apply for one Neil, I wouldn't be surprised if they offered you one straight away.
anyone who wants to sell their season ticket, I'll have it. I let my season ticket go and have regreted it ever since.
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Phone up and apply for one Neil, I wouldn't be surprised if they offered you one straight away.
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=40476.msg1116336#msg1116336 date=1276090585]
Value for money? You're gonna need one of these.............
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Ha ha! Although I am probably the oldest poster round here, I don't see the past through rose-tinted spectacles and I prefer to look to the future! I reckon a new manager can get a lot more out of the current squad, plus the dozens of anonymous youngsters in the background, than Rafa did. We do have the world's best striker and arguably the world's best keeper. We can win things!! 🙂
Value for money? You're gonna need one of these.............
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Ha ha! Although I am probably the oldest poster round here, I don't see the past through rose-tinted spectacles and I prefer to look to the future! I reckon a new manager can get a lot more out of the current squad, plus the dozens of anonymous youngsters in the background, than Rafa did. We do have the world's best striker and arguably the world's best keeper. We can win things!! 🙂
[quote author=Portly link=topic=40476.msg1116213#msg1116213 date=1276077506]
I wouldn't like to see a "caretaker manager" appointed, least of all Kenny. At this time of year, the main issue for a manager is improving the squad by selling and buying players on the transfer market. A caretaker manager would not be able to do this because any decisions taken could be completely contrary to what the eventual "permanent" manager might have wanted.
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It isn't often I disagree as strongly with a post of yours as I do with this one, old chum.
First, the King. If we appoint him we maximise the chances of our big names staying, hence we minimise the amount we'd have to spend to shore up the squad. The alternative is to appoint someone else (Hodgson or whoever), increase the risk of those big names going and, if they do, then face the dilemma of wondering whether to give the new manager all that money despite the possibility - which will increase as time goes by and the banks become more antsy - of new owners coming in with different ideas.
Secondly, the powers of a caretaker manager. Caretakers they may be, but they're still managers and I can't say I've noticed the kind of restriction on their activities at other clubs that you describe above. I don't believe it would happen here either and I honestly don't know where you get that from.
I wouldn't like to see a "caretaker manager" appointed, least of all Kenny. At this time of year, the main issue for a manager is improving the squad by selling and buying players on the transfer market. A caretaker manager would not be able to do this because any decisions taken could be completely contrary to what the eventual "permanent" manager might have wanted.
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It isn't often I disagree as strongly with a post of yours as I do with this one, old chum.
First, the King. If we appoint him we maximise the chances of our big names staying, hence we minimise the amount we'd have to spend to shore up the squad. The alternative is to appoint someone else (Hodgson or whoever), increase the risk of those big names going and, if they do, then face the dilemma of wondering whether to give the new manager all that money despite the possibility - which will increase as time goes by and the banks become more antsy - of new owners coming in with different ideas.
Secondly, the powers of a caretaker manager. Caretakers they may be, but they're still managers and I can't say I've noticed the kind of restriction on their activities at other clubs that you describe above. I don't believe it would happen here either and I honestly don't know where you get that from.
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=40476.msg1116340#msg1116340 date=1276091221]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40476.msg1116339#msg1116339 date=1276091035]
anyone who wants to sell their season ticket, I'll have it. I let my season ticket go and have regreted it ever since.
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Phone up and apply for one Neil, I wouldn't be surprised if they offered you one straight away.
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If this is the case, what's the point of a new, bigger stadium?
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40476.msg1116339#msg1116339 date=1276091035]
anyone who wants to sell their season ticket, I'll have it. I let my season ticket go and have regreted it ever since.
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Phone up and apply for one Neil, I wouldn't be surprised if they offered you one straight away.
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If this is the case, what's the point of a new, bigger stadium?
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40476.msg1116386#msg1116386 date=1276094034]
[quote author=Portly link=topic=40476.msg1116213#msg1116213 date=1276077506]
I wouldn't like to see a "caretaker manager" appointed, least of all Kenny. At this time of year, the main issue for a manager is improving the squad by selling and buying players on the transfer market. A caretaker manager would not be able to do this because any decisions taken could be completely contrary to what the eventual "permanent" manager might have wanted.
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It isn't often I disagree as strongly with a post of yours as I do with this one, old chum.
First, the King. If we appoint him we maximise the chances of our big names staying, hence we minimise the amount we'd have to spend to shore up the squad. The alternative is to appoint someone else (Hodgson or whoever), increase the risk of those big names going and, if they do, then face the dilemma of wondering whether to give the new manager all that money despite the possibility - which will increase as time goes by and the banks become more antsy - of new owners coming in with different ideas.
Secondly, the powers of a caretaker manager. Caretakers they may be, but they're still managers and I can't say I've noticed the kind of restriction on their activities at other clubs that you describe above. I don't believe it would happen here either and I honestly don't know where you get that from.
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"eh leave our kid alone"
*jumps on Jules' back and drags him to the floor*
I see where Portly is coming from, a caretaker manager would be treading water, he would not be able to embark on any sort of team building, as whoever came in next would do the same thing, it would be counter productive. I think Hodgson might have a similar brief if he is on a rolling contract pending new owners, but a little wider than that.
Consolidate, get the best out of the team, build up morale while trying to retain who we want to retain getting shut of the shite and build some strength in depth, oh and a decent striker to back up Torres
regards
[quote author=Portly link=topic=40476.msg1116213#msg1116213 date=1276077506]
I wouldn't like to see a "caretaker manager" appointed, least of all Kenny. At this time of year, the main issue for a manager is improving the squad by selling and buying players on the transfer market. A caretaker manager would not be able to do this because any decisions taken could be completely contrary to what the eventual "permanent" manager might have wanted.
[/quote]
It isn't often I disagree as strongly with a post of yours as I do with this one, old chum.
First, the King. If we appoint him we maximise the chances of our big names staying, hence we minimise the amount we'd have to spend to shore up the squad. The alternative is to appoint someone else (Hodgson or whoever), increase the risk of those big names going and, if they do, then face the dilemma of wondering whether to give the new manager all that money despite the possibility - which will increase as time goes by and the banks become more antsy - of new owners coming in with different ideas.
Secondly, the powers of a caretaker manager. Caretakers they may be, but they're still managers and I can't say I've noticed the kind of restriction on their activities at other clubs that you describe above. I don't believe it would happen here either and I honestly don't know where you get that from.
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"eh leave our kid alone"
*jumps on Jules' back and drags him to the floor*
I see where Portly is coming from, a caretaker manager would be treading water, he would not be able to embark on any sort of team building, as whoever came in next would do the same thing, it would be counter productive. I think Hodgson might have a similar brief if he is on a rolling contract pending new owners, but a little wider than that.
Consolidate, get the best out of the team, build up morale while trying to retain who we want to retain getting shut of the shite and build some strength in depth, oh and a decent striker to back up Torres
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Nobody has really put a case forward for Dalglish
Besides keeping Gerrard and Torres at our club, which is very debatable if only *he* can manage this, what is he going to bring?
Do we know the players idolise and respect him, to the point where they want Dalglish in charge, or is that an assumption?
Leaving all romance at the door - why should we hire him?
Because as one of the younger members on these boards - which might have something to do with it - I'm really struggling to embrace this idea.
Besides keeping Gerrard and Torres at our club, which is very debatable if only *he* can manage this, what is he going to bring?
Do we know the players idolise and respect him, to the point where they want Dalglish in charge, or is that an assumption?
Leaving all romance at the door - why should we hire him?
Because as one of the younger members on these boards - which might have something to do with it - I'm really struggling to embrace this idea.
Jules - Kenny was a legend as a player, but not as a manager. I think there is a reason why he has done nothing except his charity work after he was sacked by Celtic in 2000 along with John Barnes, whom he hid behind during that short period. I don't see why Kenny in charge would be an attractive option, particularly as the players would not necessarily see him as the man to deliver success on the pitch.
As for the stand-in manager operating on the transfer market - would it make sense to give him a chequebook to go round making signings, when they might not fit in with the strategy of his successor at all. I think not.
As for the stand-in manager operating on the transfer market - would it make sense to give him a chequebook to go round making signings, when they might not fit in with the strategy of his successor at all. I think not.
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