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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=40476.msg1113775#msg1113775 date=1275735741]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=40476.msg1113767#msg1113767 date=1275734624]
On the positive side, he's Kenneth Mathieson Dalglish.
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And his daughter is a bit of all right.
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In a big fucking way !

I'm loving her on that ESPN show.

She gave "Chappers" a cheeky little verbal slap down the other week that was sweeeet !
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40476.msg1113530#msg1113530 date=1275685211]
Has this been confirmed then, or what? I really hope it's just temporary: I love Kenny, and would be devastated to see him fail. And for everyone saying there's no pressure or expectation on him... get fucking real. If we finish outside the top 4 again, our best players will definitely leave. There is shitloads of pressure. And last time Kenny had that at Liverpool, he cracked. His reign at Newcastle was also deeply depressing. Once the euphoria wears off, I'm afraid this will look like a really bad gamble.
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^This. Appointment could be seen as harking back to a better age (yes it's been that long) and wee nostalgic no? The pressure will be great even with the expections set by the board of it being a temporary appointment. Cuntish journos will have their knives out from the very first game.
Agree top players would leave if it's another year with the CL and downward spiral here we go. But just allow yourselves a minute to imagine if it works out!
 
[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=40476.msg1113562#msg1113562 date=1275687154]
His signings were as much hit and miss as Rafas' have been. In them old days, you could get by with a skwad of 15. Now most squads have at least 25 players.

Steve McMahon Aston Villa £350,000 12.09.1985
John Durnin Waterloo Dock Free 29.03.1986
Barry Venison Sunderland £200,000 31.07.1986
Steve Staunton Dundalk £20,000 02.09.1986
Alan Irvine Falkirk £75,000 Oct 1986
John Aldridge Oxford £750,000 27.01.1987
Nigel Spackman Chelsea £400,000 24.02.1987
John Barnes Watford £900,000 09.06.1987
Peter Beardsley Newcastle £1,900,000 14.07.1987
Mike Marsh Kirkby Town Free 21.08.1987
Ray Houghton Oxford £825,000 19.10.1987
Nick Tanner Bristol Rovers £20,000 01.08.1988
Ian Rush Juventus £2,800,000 18.08.1988
David Burrows WBA £550,000 20.10.1988
Barry Jones Prescot Cables £500 19.01.1989
Glenn Hysen Fiorentina £600,000 01.06.1989
Steve Harkness Carlisle £75,000 17.07.1989
Ronny Rosenthal Standard Liege £1,000,000 29.06.1990
Tony Cousins Dundalk £70,000 Oct 1990
Don Hutchison Hartlepool £175,000 27.11.1990
Jimmy Carter Millwall £800,000 10.01.1991
Jamie Redknapp Bournemouth £350,000 15.01.1991
David Speedie Coventry £675,000 30.01.1991


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That is largely pointless mate, given thatn those players (however good or bad they look now) were signed to play the game 20 years ago, when football was markedly different.

A better (but still slightly off) indicator is to review those whom he signed at Newcastle. And off the top of my head, there was some absolute rubbish amonst that list.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40476.msg1114697#msg1114697 date=1275873564]


That is largely pointless mate, given thatn those players (however good or bad they look now) were signed to play the game 20 years ago, when football was markedly different.

A better (but still slightly off) indicator is to review those whom he signed at Newcastle. And off the top of my head, there was some absolute rubbish amonst that list.
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Dalglish reign at Newcastle is a bit of an oddity. Similar to Souness at Liverpool, he tried to make too many changes and sold almost all the fan favorites. Also since Keegan had disbanded the reserve system, he also tried to revive that.

Failures at Newcastle : John Barnes, Ian Rush, Stuart Pearce, Alessandro Pistone, Andreas Andersson and Jon Dahl Tomasson

Success: Solano, Gary Speed, Shay Given
 
King is taking over on temporary basis until we find a replacement for Rafa. I hope he pick Van Gaal. The next on the list should be Hiddink.

We should stop thinking about O'Neill and Hodgson shit. Kenny will get the best out of those available. Hopefully.
 
[quote author=Glock link=topic=40476.msg1114718#msg1114718 date=1275885970]
King is taking over on temporary basis until we find a replacement for Rafa. I hope he pick Van Gaal. The next on the list should be Hiddink.

We should stop thinking about O'Neill and Hodgson shit. Kenny will get the best out of those available. Hopefully.
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Fascinating.
 
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[quote author=Glock link=topic=40476.msg1114718#msg1114718 date=1275885970]
King is taking over on temporary basis until we find a replacement for Rafa. I hope he pick Van Gaal. The next on the list should be Hiddink.

We should stop thinking about O'Neill and Hodgson shit. Kenny will get the best out of those available. Hopefully.
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Fascinating.
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It's the groundbreaking 'insider' knowledge I've been waiting for since Rafa got the arse.
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=40476.msg1114723#msg1114723 date=1275887252]
[quote author=Glock link=topic=40476.msg1114718#msg1114718 date=1275885970]
King is taking over on temporary basis until we find a replacement for Rafa. I hope he pick Van Gaal. The next on the list should be Hiddink.

We should stop thinking about O'Neill and Hodgson shit. Kenny will get the best out of those available. Hopefully.
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Fascinating.
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Not.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40476.msg1114725#msg1114725 date=1275888237]
[quote author=themn link=topic=40476.msg1114723#msg1114723 date=1275887252]
[quote author=Glock link=topic=40476.msg1114718#msg1114718 date=1275885970]
King is taking over on temporary basis until we find a replacement for Rafa. I hope he pick Van Gaal. The next on the list should be Hiddink.

We should stop thinking about O'Neill and Hodgson shit. Kenny will get the best out of those available. Hopefully.
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Fascinating.
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It's the groundbreaking 'insider' knowledge I've been waiting for since Rafa got the arse.
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Clearly "The Rule" has posted this somewhere else.
 
Kenny Dalglish is willing to take charge at Liverpool
Tony Barrett


Kenny Dalglish is willing to replace Rafael Benítez as Liverpool manager — but only if the Anfield board considers him to be the best possible replacement for the Spaniard.

Dalglish, who resigned as Liverpool manager in 1991 before returning to the club last year in a new ambassador’s role, had been asked to help Christian Purslow, the managing director, to find a successor to Benítez, who left last Thursday by mutual consent.

Benítez was confirmed last night as the new coach of Inter Milan, where he will succeed José Mourinho.

However, Dalglish has told friends that he would like the job, although he is not willing to compromise the club in any way by making his interest in the position known.

Roy Hodgson is the early front-runner to take over at Anfield, with Liverpool understood to be preparing an approach for the Fulham manager.

But Dalglish, who won three league titles during his six-year spell in charge from 1985, believes he has the credentials and the standing within the club to take on the job for a second time.

Such a move would undoubtedly be popular with supporters, who view Dalglish as a legend, but whether the Liverpool hierarchy believe the 59-year-old is ready to make what would be an emotional return to the dugout, despite not having managed at the top level for almost a decade, is open to question.

Dalglish is unlikely to put pressure on the club he served as player and manager by publicly declaring his interest, but he will inform Purslow and his fellow board members of his belief that he can do the job if called upon. He can do so in the confidence that few, if any, of the contenders to succeed Benítez can boast such an impressive CV and that none of them can match the depth of his association with Liverpool.

Dalglish has always maintained that he would be ready and willing to help Liverpool in any way should the club call upon his services, but the present situation is complicated by the fact that he is not on the shortlist that is being considered and he would have to forgo his role on the selection panel for that to change.

Inter confirmed that Benítez will take over as manager of the European champions. “We have reached an agreement and we have sorted out all the last remaining details,†Massimo Moratti, the president, said. “Tomorrow we will announce when Benítez will be unveiled to the press.â€

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article7146439.ece
 
Well RAWK think it's a wonderful idea, with any dissenters being given a bit of a slap.
Personally, I think it would eventually turn into a disaster for both Kenny and the Club.

regards
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40476.msg1115979#msg1115979 date=1276038442]
Well RAWK think it's a wonderful idea, with any dissenters being given a bit of a slap.
Personally, I think it would eventually turn into a disaster for both Kenny and the Club.

regards
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I think I agree, and quite honestly I'm surprised he'd set himself up for a fall like this. He doesn't need to do this, and he's bound to know that he's more likely to fail than succeed if he takes it on. Which would invariably sour how he's viewed within the club over time. People say it wouldn't, but look at Souness.
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40476.msg1115979#msg1115979 date=1276038442]
Well RAWK think it's a wonderful idea, with any dissenters being given a bit of a slap.
Personally, I think it would eventually turn into a disaster for both Kenny and the Club.

regards
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Was it not a few hours ago Dalglish was leaving according to in the know posters on RAWK. That place tickles me.
 
Oh i to agree that this could be a bad move, I just think the man has been out of managment fr far to long. Wouldn't want to see the great mans name tarnished if his stint went wrong, but i can't see how it won't.
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40476.msg1115979#msg1115979 date=1276038442]
Well RAWK think it's a wonderful idea, with any dissenters being given a bit of a slap.
Personally, I think it would eventually turn into a disaster for both Kenny and the Club.

regards
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Agree.

Let's face it, I'd he has thrown his hat in, he'll be chosen, he'll obv be the cheapest option & most fans will be happy so it's a no brainer for the club.

Though should we find new owners a manage who can move upstairs without paying compensation out may be blessing.

I'm worried though, I think this could all go horribly wrong. I only hope I'm mistaken.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=40476.msg1115984#msg1115984 date=1276038691]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40476.msg1115979#msg1115979 date=1276038442]
Well RAWK think it's a wonderful idea, with any dissenters being given a bit of a slap.
Personally, I think it would eventually turn into a disaster for both Kenny and the Club.

regards
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I think I agree, and quite honestly I'm surprised he'd set himself up for a fall like this. He doesn't need to do this, and he's bound to know that he's more likely to fail than succeed if he takes it on. Which would invariably sour how he's viewed within the club over time. People say it wouldn't, but look at Souness.
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The only reason I can think of is that he knows the clubwill pick the cheapest option & he believes he can do a bette job than that cheapest option can.
 
I have no desire to upset those who would love to see Kenny back in the driving seat, but I would be very unhappy if this happened. I think Kenny proved in his previous managerial career that he can't handle pressure.
 
Comparing Dalglish taking over to the Souness debacle is a bit unfair to be honest.
The difference is Dalglish actually had a successful tenure as manager already. Souness however failed miserably.
I admit I'm also a bit worried about Dalglish taking over but I'm somehow exited as well.

Our fall from grace started with Kenny leaving, wouldn't it be great if he's the one that gets us back where we belong.
During his spell we played the best football in Europe, pass and move. Simple. Maybe we should get back to basics.
 
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=40476.msg1116001#msg1116001 date=1276040223]
Comparing Dalglish taking over to the Souness debacle is a bit unfair to be honest.
The difference is Dalglish actually had a successful tenure as manager already. Souness however failed miserably.
I admit I'm also a bit worried about Dalglish taking over but I'm somehow exited as well.

Our fall from grace started with Kenny leaving, wouldn't it be great if he's the one that gets us back where we belong.
During his spell we played the best football in Europe, pass and move. Simple. Maybe we should get back to basics.
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It might have started just a little bit before then


regards
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40476.msg1116002#msg1116002 date=1276040610]
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=40476.msg1116001#msg1116001 date=1276040223]
Comparing Dalglish taking over to the Souness debacle is a bit unfair to be honest.
The difference is Dalglish actually had a successful tenure as manager already. Souness however failed miserably.
I admit I'm also a bit worried about Dalglish taking over but I'm somehow exited as well.

Our fall from grace started with Kenny leaving, wouldn't it be great if he's the one that gets us back where we belong.
During his spell we played the best football in Europe, pass and move. Simple. Maybe we should get back to basics.
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It might have started just a little bit before then


regards
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Quote from Wikipedia:

"Dalglish left Liverpool FC in 1991, with the club defending their title and still in contention for both the league title and the FA Cup."

So I'm guessing he left in the middle of the season with us at the top of the table. We won the league in the previous season.

Explain to me how our downfall started before he left?
 
Yep. I'll stick with Roy please.
And besides I like king kenny just where he is *pulls rope that opens curtain to kenny on a pedastal frozen in carbonite*
 
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40476.msg1116002#msg1116002 date=1276040610]
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=40476.msg1116001#msg1116001 date=1276040223]
Comparing Dalglish taking over to the Souness debacle is a bit unfair to be honest.
The difference is Dalglish actually had a successful tenure as manager already. Souness however failed miserably.
I admit I'm also a bit worried about Dalglish taking over but I'm somehow exited as well.

Our fall from grace started with Kenny leaving, wouldn't it be great if he's the one that gets us back where we belong.
During his spell we played the best football in Europe, pass and move. Simple. Maybe we should get back to basics.
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It might have started just a little bit before then


regards
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Quote from Wikipedia:

"Dalglish left Liverpool FC in 1991, with the club defending their title and still in contention for both the league title and the FA Cup."

So I'm guessing he left in the middle of the season with us at the top of the table. We won the league in the previous season.

Explain to me how our downfall started before he left?



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Because the team needed rebuilding , it had got too old. they had all got too old together, The Everton cup game, were the final straw and he couldn't face sacking all his mates....just my theory btw, but one that others do subscribe to.

Kenny Dalglish’s last match as Liverpool manager saw Everton come from behind four times to force a 4-4 draw in a fifth round FA Cup tie in 1991. Tony Cottee was the Toffees’ saviour, Dalglish resigned the next day and Everton went on to win the replay 1-0.




regards
 
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=40476.msg1116004#msg1116004 date=1276041159]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40476.msg1116002#msg1116002 date=1276040610]
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=40476.msg1116001#msg1116001 date=1276040223]
Comparing Dalglish taking over to the Souness debacle is a bit unfair to be honest.
The difference is Dalglish actually had a successful tenure as manager already. Souness however failed miserably.
I admit I'm also a bit worried about Dalglish taking over but I'm somehow exited as well.

Our fall from grace started with Kenny leaving, wouldn't it be great if he's the one that gets us back where we belong.
During his spell we played the best football in Europe, pass and move. Simple. Maybe we should get back to basics.
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It might have started just a little bit before then


regards
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Quote from Wikipedia:

"Dalglish left Liverpool FC in 1991, with the club defending their title and still in contention for both the league title and the FA Cup."

So I'm guessing he left in the middle of the season with us at the top of the table. We won the league in the previous season.

Explain to me how our downfall started before he left?

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I think we were running on fumes, our reputation and the winning habit. We looked more vulnerable than a few years before and were making weird and seemingly panicky signings.
 
And Peter Beardsley who was one of our best players suddenly left the club in mysterious circumstances.
 
Sure we had some overage players but would we have lost the league if Kenny had stayed?
Chelsea just won the league with a squad full of 30 year olds.

Dalglish won the league with Blackburn a couple of years later, so I don't think it's about Kenny not having the guts to sell his former teammates or anything else. Maybe he was fed up with our board and dejected after the Hillsborough tragedy.

Going a year or two without winning the league is not falling from grace, maybe Dalglish would have used that time to rebuild and come back stronger. Souness however completely destroyed our team. One of his faults was trying to change the squad too quickly.

Anyway, I was too young to completely understand football back then but that's my impression of that specific time in LFCs history.
 
Regarding Kenny - Head says No. heart says yes.

However, Kenny might be able to unite the fans and convince Gerrard and torres to at least stay for one more season.
 
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