Kenny Dalglish

[Hansern]

With Kenny being appointed, I can't see Stevie going anywhere tbh.

 

[Spionkop69]

[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=40476.msg1113433#msg1113433 date=1275676250]
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[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=40476.msg1113420#msg1113420 date=1275675663]
he has always had a brilliant eye for players as well.
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Not always....

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i don't even know who that is.
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That's Mike Marsh. And he wasn't that bad a player.

 

[themn]

I had to say something - Jesus.

The "Behave" is my response, on RAWK, to this post.

[quote author=blert596 link=topic=258886.msg6991380#msg6991380 date=1275680385]
To tell the truth I dont want Kenny anywhere near this. I don't really like myself for thinking it but I'm already in a bit of a quandry about his involment in Rafa's demise. Et tu Brutus.

I find it hard to believe that he was just called up out of the blue and asked if he would join Purslow in the hunt for a new manager.


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Behave.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

[quote author=Hansern link=topic=40476.msg1113365#msg1113365 date=1275670490]
According to SKy Sports Kenny will be our temporary manager..
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Kenny as temporary manager. Who'd have thought eh!

 

[Judge Jules]

[quote author=themn link=topic=40476.msg1113481#msg1113481 date=1275680618]
I had to say something - Jesus.

The "Behave" is my response, on RAWK, to this post.

[quote author=blert596 link=topic=258886.msg6991380#msg6991380 date=1275680385]
To tell the truth I dont want Kenny anywhere near this. I don't really like myself for thinking it but I'm already in a bit of a quandry about his involment in Rafa's demise. Et tu Brutus.

I find it hard to believe that he was just called up out of the blue and asked if he would join Purslow in the hunt for a new manager.


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Behave.
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Care in the community has a lot to answer for.

 

[themn]

[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40476.msg1113485#msg1113485 date=1275680841]
[quote author=themn link=topic=40476.msg1113481#msg1113481 date=1275680618]
I had to say something - Jesus.

The "Behave" is my response, on RAWK, to this post.

[quote author=blert596 link=topic=258886.msg6991380#msg6991380 date=1275680385]
To tell the truth I dont want Kenny anywhere near this. I don't really like myself for thinking it but I'm already in a bit of a quandry about his involment in Rafa's demise. Et tu Brutus.

I find it hard to believe that he was just called up out of the blue and asked if he would join Purslow in the hunt for a new manager.


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Behave.
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Care in the community has a lot to answer for.
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It just beggars belief.

I look forward to rebel23's assertion that Dalglish was complicit in Rafa's demise and that he is also, therefore, a "skipping badger".

 

[RolandG]

The benefits of appointing the King is so obvious, there shouldn't be anything to think about. Gerrard and Torres would definately want to play for him. Anfield will be buzzing. First home game will be sold.

And of course the King was the last coach to win us the league. I have so many great memories. Tell everyone, the King is back!

 

[Skullflower]

i imagine the main stumbling block is that dalglish doesn't want to do it.

 

[RolandG]

Understandably so! The pressure will be immense because we have underachieved for too long.

 

[TheBunnyman]

Has this been confirmed then, or what? I really hope it's just temporary: I love Kenny, and would be devastated to see him fail. And for everyone saying there's no pressure or expectation on him... get fucking real. If we finish outside the top 4 again, our best players will definitely leave. There is shitloads of pressure. And last time Kenny had that at Liverpool, he cracked. His reign at Newcastle was also deeply depressing. Once the euphoria wears off, I'm afraid this will look like a really bad gamble.

 

[themn]

I believe he is intrinsically involved in deciding who the next man will be, so, temporary is my guess.

Fucking skipping badger.

 

[RolandG]

Bunny, he cracked from a different type of pressure. Hillborough was a crushing weight that he couldn't bare!

The pressure to actually perform was not a problem for King Kenny because at a club like our, its ever present!

 

[Loch Ness Monster]

I fucking love Kenny. I grew up on him as manager, I had a season ticket from 1985 until 1992, and he was who I wanted to be as a four year old. I am just not sure on this though, even if it is only for a month. I worry he is out of touch, a little like Keegan was when he was reappointed, and I would hate to end up with feelings for Kenny like I have for Rafa.

 

[themn]

I understand your concern, Sr.Windever, but, Kenny, unlike Keegan has actually been to the odd game or two, and not pissing about with a Soccer Circus.

 

[Insignificance]

[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=40476.msg1113549#msg1113549 date=1275686129]
I fucking love Kenny. I grew up on him as manager, I had a season ticket from 1985 until 1992, and he was who I wanted to be as a four year old. I am just not sure on this though, even if it is only for a month. I worry he is out of touch, a little like Keegan was when he was reappointed, and I would hate to end up with feelings for Kenny like I have for Rafa.


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Dont worry. King Kenny will not let you down. He doesnt have to dictate how the guys get into physical form, but he will tell them what it demands to wear a red jersey....

 

[TheBunnyman]

I've still seen no confirmation whatsoever that Dalglish wants or has been given the manager's job, even temporarily. Anyone want to provide a link to a credible news story?

In the meantime, here's a good feature on the subject by Paddy Barclay:

On the face of it, Kenny Dalglish is the perfect answer to the Liverpool question. Making him manager in succession to Rafael Benítez would be not only simple and cheap (he is already on the payroll) but as spine-tinglingly popular as Kevin Keegan’s arrival at Newcastle United. Any of Keegan’s arrivals at Newcastle.

If only Liverpool were Newcastle.

The scale of expectation at Liverpool remains daunting. Because the club won the Champions League only five years ago, took part in another final three years ago and challenged strongly for the English title a little more than a year ago, supporters and media would envisage a rise in Barclays Premier League position from seventh to fourth as a first step towards the old dominance.

Even this would be a shade unrealistic, given that Chelsea appear to be under stable and successful stewardship, that Manchester United’s inevitable decline is likely to be gradual in the continued presence of Wayne Rooney, that Arsenal, even if they lose Cesc Fàbregas, have vibrant and still-burgeoning youth on their side and that Manchester City, already fifth, have become the most financially muscular club in the world.

For Liverpool to better any of those would be surprising under any management, given the paucity of resources available for reinforcement unless the best of the present squad — Fernando Torres, Steven Gerrard, Javier Mascherano — are sold.

This is not the world as Dalglish knew it when he managed Liverpool before — when they could attract the likes of John Barnes and Peter Beardsley — or as he later knew it with Blackburn Rovers, the Manchester City of the time.

True, when Blackburn’s benefactor jetted in, it was from Jersey and not Abu Dhabi, but Jack Walker still made sure that it was Dalglish rather than Sir Alex Ferguson who received the benefit of Alan Shearer.

The attractions of a Dalglish appointment are undeniable and the emotional ones outlined by Tony Evans in these pages yesterday should not be undervalued. The energy created by an explosion of relief, coupled with a reminder of good times, would help the team next season, especially if Torres, Gerrard and Mascherano were still in it; tradition is part of their reason for being at Anfield, especially in the case of Gerrard. There would also be a semblance of the streamlined power structure for which Anfield was once so admired. When Liverpool ruled English football, three men ran the club: Peter Robinson, the chief executive, would shuttle between the chairman, usually Sir John Smith, and whoever happened to be manager, initially Bill Shankly, then Bob Paisley, Joe Fagan and Dalglish.

Christian Purslow, the present chief executive, gets on very well with Dalglish. If the American co-owners were now to display enough enlightened self-interest just to stay out of the way and let Purslow and Dalglish get on with it, the burden of club politics would be lifted and that, too, might produce a dividend on the field.

As is so often true in football, an answer to the problems of the present — in this instance the slow death of the Benítez era — lies in the past. Liverpool’s enduring difficulty, however, is that the best of the past has been dismantled.

No longer is there a Boot Room with a seemingly endless supply of coaches (Paisley, Fagan, Ronnie Moran, Roy Evans) ready to do a stint as manager. There is only Sammy Lee and he would be the obvious choice as chief assistant if Dalglish were to take over. It would be an extremely important job, for Dalglish is not a distinguished coach in the mould of, say, Roy Hodgson, whom Liverpool would otherwise be expected to court.

When in charge of the club, Dalglish had the Boot Room to rely upon. At Blackburn, he was astute enough to engage Ray Harford, one of the outstanding No 2s of the past quarter-century in English football. Without a latter-day Harford, even the revered Dalglish might struggle.

It may be in recognition of this that he and Purslow are seeking someone from outside and while this might frustrate Dalglish’s legion of admirers, even beyond Merseyside — among those who concurred with Tony Evans was no less a judge of a manager than Terry Venables — the element of cold reality implicit in the word from Anfield might be in order.

My hunch is that Dalglish will seek Fulham’s permission to have a word with Hodgson. He and Hodgson have a friendship based on mutual respect and it is known that Hodgson, much as he loves Fulham, would relish a big-club challenge. In this case I suspect that biting and chewing would be very different things. But, when ambition still inhabits a 62-year-old heart, caution goes unheeded. Hence, perhaps, Dalglish’s quest for a No 1.

 

[Loch Ness Monster]

His signings were as much hit and miss as Rafas' have been. In them old days, you could get by with a skwad of 15. Now most squads have at least 25 players.

Steve McMahon Aston Villa £350,000 12.09.1985
John Durnin Waterloo Dock Free 29.03.1986
Barry Venison Sunderland £200,000 31.07.1986
Steve Staunton Dundalk £20,000 02.09.1986
Alan Irvine Falkirk £75,000 Oct 1986
John Aldridge Oxford £750,000 27.01.1987
Nigel Spackman Chelsea £400,000 24.02.1987
John Barnes Watford £900,000 09.06.1987
Peter Beardsley Newcastle £1,900,000 14.07.1987
Mike Marsh Kirkby Town Free 21.08.1987
Ray Houghton Oxford £825,000 19.10.1987
Nick Tanner Bristol Rovers £20,000 01.08.1988
Ian Rush Juventus £2,800,000 18.08.1988
David Burrows WBA £550,000 20.10.1988
Barry Jones Prescot Cables £500 19.01.1989
Glenn Hysen Fiorentina £600,000 01.06.1989
Steve Harkness Carlisle £75,000 17.07.1989
Ronny Rosenthal Standard Liege £1,000,000 29.06.1990
Tony Cousins Dundalk £70,000 Oct 1990
Don Hutchison Hartlepool £175,000 27.11.1990
Jimmy Carter Millwall £800,000 10.01.1991
Jamie Redknapp Bournemouth £350,000 15.01.1991
David Speedie Coventry £675,000 30.01.1991

 

[Skullflower]

[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=40476.msg1113562#msg1113562 date=1275687154]
His signings were as much hit and miss as Rafas' have been. In them old days, you could get by with a skwad of 15. Now most squads have at least 25 players.

Steve McMahon Aston Villa £350,000 12.09.1985
John Durnin Waterloo Dock Free 29.03.1986
Barry Venison Sunderland £200,000 31.07.1986
Steve Staunton Dundalk £20,000 02.09.1986
Alan Irvine Falkirk £75,000 Oct 1986
John Aldridge Oxford £750,000 27.01.1987
Nigel Spackman Chelsea £400,000 24.02.1987
John Barnes Watford £900,000 09.06.1987
Peter Beardsley Newcastle £1,900,000 14.07.1987
Mike Marsh Kirkby Town Free 21.08.1987
Ray Houghton Oxford £825,000 19.10.1987
Nick Tanner Bristol Rovers £20,000 01.08.1988
Ian Rush Juventus £2,800,000 18.08.1988
David Burrows WBA £550,000 20.10.1988
Barry Jones Prescot Cables £500 19.01.1989
Glenn Hysen Fiorentina £600,000 01.06.1989
Steve Harkness Carlisle £75,000 17.07.1989
Ronny Rosenthal Standard Liege £1,000,000 29.06.1990
Tony Cousins Dundalk £70,000 Oct 1990
Don Hutchison Hartlepool £175,000 27.11.1990
Jimmy Carter Millwall £800,000 10.01.1991
Jamie Redknapp Bournemouth £350,000 15.01.1991
David Speedie Coventry £675,000 30.01.1991


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most top manager's signings are as hit and miss as rafa's.

 

[Loch Ness Monster]

True. The team he inherited as manager was second to none at the time. Well only Everton in the league, twats. But it was easier to add to that tea to win leagues. This time I fear there will be more required, and I am not sure he is the right man to take it on.

 

[Modo]

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[quote author=Modokay link=topic=40476.msg1113270#msg1113270 date=1275659391]
Having King Kenny at the reins again would be nostalgic.
Imagine playing Man U...

Ferguson vs Dalglish

To old rivals meet again on the pitch. Dalglish who beat Fergie regularly during the late 80s managing Liverpool and he stole the title from Man U with Blackburn.

Fergie and Dalglish also had a falling out before the 1986 world cup when Alan Hansen was dropped from the Scottish squad.
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Hold on there, Mr !

Fergie's never managed the Scottish National side.
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Erm...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Ferguson

1985-86 Scotland

 

[themn]

[quote author=Modokay link=topic=40476.msg1113595#msg1113595 date=1275691150]
[quote author=themn link=topic=40476.msg1113397#msg1113397 date=1275674217]
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=40476.msg1113270#msg1113270 date=1275659391]
Having King Kenny at the reins again would be nostalgic.
Imagine playing Man U...

Ferguson vs Dalglish

To old rivals meet again on the pitch. Dalglish who beat Fergie regularly during the late 80s managing Liverpool and he stole the title from Man U with Blackburn.

Fergie and Dalglish also had a falling out before the 1986 world cup when Alan Hansen was dropped from the Scottish squad.
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Erm...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Ferguson

1985-86 Scotland

Hold on there, Mr !

Fergie's never managed the Scottish National side.
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[quote author=themn link=topic=40476.msg1113400#msg1113400 date=1275674399]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40476.msg1113399#msg1113399 date=1275674341]
Hansern - not sure about "very" short-term, given what Hicks was saying recently, but one thing's for sure - we had to resolve the impasse over Rafa's position one way or the other before anything else could happen. Now that we have, things can move forward when they're ready. In answer to Skully's question above, I think Dalglish will continue to play some part in the search for a new permanent manager and his stint will come to an end when we have our man, hopefully not later than summer 2011 and preferably before.

Themn - oh yes he did, ironically enough as a short-term caretaker.
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Ballicks !

*slopes off*
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[Mistadobalina]

The king is dead long live the king.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I'd rather have Rafa than Dalglish. In fact I'd rather have O'Neill or Hodgson than Kenny.

 

[Mistadobalina]

I wonder if he will bring 5 a side matches back into training. I always thought it was strange they stopped them.

 

[Avmenon]

[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40476.msg1113414#msg1113414 date=1275675331]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40476.msg1113405#msg1113405 date=1275675014]
This makes me fucking nervous.
I love kenny so much. But the game is not recognisable these days.
Hope he knows what he's doing.
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Oncy, I can understand and would share a degree of concern, but why so very nervous? Not everything in the game has changed, the King's been back involved as Academy head for a while now and he'll have others with more recent experience around him, or available to call on, for advice if needed.
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That sounds good, Jules...but at the end the buck stops with the gaffer..

Kenny's been out of the game for so long that he won't have the necessary contacts and connections and scouts to spot up-and-coming players (especially from the Continent); I also have grave misgivings about his tactical ability in Europe.

However, if this is a very short-term appointment then the benefits may outweigh the disadvantages, we'll at least look more stable..and I mean to supporters as well as investors.

I think Kenny's tiff with Ginsoak isnt just about Hansen; there was some issue about Dlaglish not playing for him for Scotland when he was fit for a League game. and that Fergie has had bad feelings about it for years.

I'm not certain tho, its been a long time.

The irony of it must somehow be lost on the drunkard.

 

[Avmenon]

[quote author=Wilko7 link=topic=40476.msg1113439#msg1113439 date=1275676664]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40476.msg1113425#msg1113425 date=1275675872]
Wilko-I wonder what he will make of millionaire kids in the game these days.
The worry is because he is such a legend. It would be like finding out your kid was a theif if it all went wrong.
But you guys are making me feel I'm just being daft.
All this positivity maybe we can't fail!

Long live the king!
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Your point about more monied players is a good one however there is more to be excited about than to be concerned about in my opinion. Perhaps he can bring in a left back, a striker and replace Masher whilst promoting his pick of the youngsters to the first team set up. Imagine the difference in mood, attitude and energy when the players report back to Melwood for training sessions led by the legendary Dalglish. Imagine Anfield exploding when he leads his team out for the first home game of the season!
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This I do agree with; we need a boost...and I cant imagine a better one.

 

[zlatan18]

I wouldnt mind him as a temp manager, but he hasnt coached for ages so i dont think he would be the long term answer we need.

 

[SaintGeorge67]

On the positive side, he's Kenneth Mathieson Dalglish.

 

[themn]

[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=40476.msg1113767#msg1113767 date=1275734624]
On the positive side, he's Kenneth Mathieson Dalglish.
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And there we have it.

 

[mark1975]

[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=40476.msg1113767#msg1113767 date=1275734624]
On the positive side, he's Kenneth Mathieson Dalglish.
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And his daughter is a bit of all right.