That bite was like a kid throwing a tantrum. Proper temper spat. Ridiculous for a grown man
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That bite was like a kid throwing a tantrum. Proper temper spat. Ridiculous for a grown man
There's no way I'd get rid of him. Under it all he's a world class footballer and we need him. He has to realise that he's no good suspended though. I just think he's dumb to be honest, some will say its the street fighter in him but that's bullshit to me. If he can't understand that by biting a player a) the ref will see it and send him off or b) it will be dealt with by the fa retrospectively. Either way it will be seen!!! What kind of a fool can't comprehend that? I don't want him to leave but just because he's one of ours doesn't mean I cant call him (footballing ability aside of course) a brainless muppet!!
It's puzzling how he thought he could do it without anyone else noticing.
Not having that bit.
Well I never saw it at the game. But then again I don't have 30 cameras following somebody's every move
Any reason you wouldn't want him to stop bringing a shit storm down on this club every time he loses the rag?
Thats the problem I have, its nothing to do with moral handringing its that his behaviour is incredibly selfish given the support he has been shown by this club. Defended every step of the way, to the point of damaging the clubs credibility. Adored by the fans, rewarded with a new contract.
People can go on about how valuable he is to the team and what a top bloke he is generally but all I see when I look at him is a spoiled selfish child who has no regard for the consequences of his actions what so ever for either himself or the club that support him
Diouf wasn't a bad player. His greatest game was the League Cup Final against Man United when he made Gary Neville's life a nighmare. He also had a good aggressive attitude to playing football which I liked. I can never really understand he hostility which most people have towards him.
I think it was more of an instinctive reaction.
Apparently most children learn not to bite when they are in the breastfeeding stages, so we can instruct Suarez's lawyer to use the powdered milk defence.
I don't think anyone would deny they'd like to see him sort the dark side of his game out - he absolutely need to. Other than him missing games, what are the consequences of his actions though ?
Well spotted. I did that on purpose to see who was paying attention
(Yeh I forgot to say Cantona and Viera were but Diouf wasn't hence why he got booted.)
The thing is, it didn't look like a reaction because Ivanovic had yet to do anything to him. It was more like a pre-emptive strike!
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Exactly my thoughts.
All this talk about us trying to "bite off" Suarez' hand (pun intended) because of this incident is completely missing the point, having now had a few days to think about it and read comments on here.
We support Suarez 100 percent, is the right thing to do, he's our player and what a player he is. We do NOT support his antics on the pitch when he's biting, diving, punching or whatever, but there's a clear and visible line between the two. This is very important to remember imo.
As Sunny said, his behaviour in this incident was very childlike, a kid throwing a tantrum. What is worse however.
A young Gerrard deliberately flying into a tackle, two legs first obviously trying to hurt the Evertonian, or a player engaging in a bar fight or someone reacting with a bite in a moment of rage. I don't know and I don't really care, fact of the matter is, as a club we will not condone any of it. But we will get behind the player, trying to help him out, as long as it is our player.
If this case could actually end up where Suarez got a bit of anger management or whatever needed be, then we've actually handled the situation very honorably. Ivanovic obviously was the victim but a case could be made that our little South American striker could be suffering from his own lack of control and what media storms he's now in the middle of, perhaps much more so than Ivan's sore upper arm is.
I think it was because he was a bit spitty and never scored.
I had to laugh at Neil Ruddock saying what a disgrace Suarez was. This coming from a man who broke both a players legs in a horrendous tackle then laughed about it afterwards "I didn't mean to break both his legs, just the one"
You might be right. I just find it difficult to believe that anyone could get themselves into that scenario after having any time to think.
I have found the winner, I'm lost for words.
Tyson was fined £2m and banned for life for his bite on Holyfield... Suarez deserves more
By Jeff Powell
PUBLISHED: 12:46, 22 April 2013 | UPDATED: 12:57, 22 April 2013
Sixteen years after those of us at ringside in Las Vegas recoiled in horror from Mike Tyson’s ear-biting, we have now watched in dismay as one of the world’s best footballers sinks his teeth into an opponent.
The sentence imposed on Iron Mike for gnawing off a chunk of Evander Holyfield ought to make exemplary reading for the Football Association, the Premier League, Liverpool Football Club, the Professional Footballers Association and not least Luis Suarez himself.
Scroll down to watch video footage of the incident...
Stunned: Branislav Ivanovic couldn't believe Luis Saurez had attempted to bite him on the arm
Ear's a good example: Mike Tyson was fined £2m and banned for life for his bite on Evander Holyfield
Iron Mike was fined £2million plus significant legal costs, ordered to perform prolonged hours of community service and given a life suspension from boxing which was later commuted to one year.
The punishment for Suarez should be even more, to use the most cuttingly illustrative word, Draconian.
Why? Because while Tyson was responsible only unto himself and his sport, Suarez has also sullied the reputation of one of the greatest football clubs in the world.
Not only that but he has done so on the very day when Liverpool were commemorating the anniversary of the harrowing tragedy which cost the lives of 96 of their supporters.
That made it all the more saddening yesterday that the Liverpool management should come out in virtual support of their disgraced man and insist that he will continue wearing that fabled red shirt through the four years of his new contract.
The late Bill Shankly – a truly great manager who never shirked his duty nor compromised the integrity of the club he built to glory from a ploughed field and a tin hut – will be turning in his grave.
Out and about: A sombre-looking Suarez is pictured in Liverpool on Monday morning
It is tempting to say that a short prison sentence for criminal assault would be too good for Suarez, not least because he has previous in this regard.
Following his cannibalising first of a Dutch opponent while playing for Ajax, now Chelsea’s Branislav Ivanovic, this troubled man is fast becoming the Hannibal Lecter of the world game.
Certainly the fine handed down by Liverpool, no matter how large, is no more than a slap on the wrist for someone who has embedded his teeth marks not only in the arm of a rival but on this proud club and the game.
That gesture also enabled Suarez to make a disingenuous bid for redemption by asking that the sum be donated to the Hillsborough families support group, a cause so worthy of itself that it should not be drawn into this disgrace.
This is not the first time, either, that the powers-that-be at Anfield have had to deal with a Suarez outrage. How they ought to be regretting now their fudged attempts to defend him when he racially abused Manchester United’s Patrice Evra.
That obfuscation was rightly superceded by an eight-match FA ban and the time has come to exact sanctions against Suarez which would serve as a far more severe deterrent.
Turning in his grave: Bill Shankly built Liverpool to glory from a ploughed field and a tin hut
A year’s exile would not be disproportionate and the Premier League, who tend to hide behind the FA when it comes to such inconvenient problems, need to come out publicly and powerfully in support of such action.
The PFA are proposing anger management classes. That would be comical were it not so seriously inadequate. They must immediately disqualify Suarez from the ballot for their Player of the Year, not least because he is believed to be embarrassingly likely to win this poll of their members and thereby taint this award forever.
Liverpool’s directors may have been lured into partially closing ranks around Suarez by the straw poll taken by broadcasters as their fans left Anfield after the match with Chelsea. The supporters had just seen the better side of Suarez as his goal-scoring brilliance conjured a last-gasp draw so, unsurprisingly, they argued for lenience for their ace striker.
But such short-team reasoning has no place in the moral governance of such an important institution. That is the duty of the board.
Expedience is the mother of disillusionment. If you do the wrong thing for the wrong reasons, be sure it will come back to haunt you in the end.
There are further parallels here with Tyson.
Confrontation: The Chelsea star made no secret of his unhappiness over the incident with the Liverpool man
Like the former world heavyweight champion, the World Cup pride of Uruguay is a disturbed genius. But unlike Tyson, there was no provocation for this latest Suarez aberration,
That title fight in Vegas was a dirty affair from the first bell and one of several head-butts by Holyfield opened a gaping wound above Tyson’s eye.
Iron Mike reverted instinctively to the street brawling which was central to his upbringing in a New York ghetto. True to that violent type, he bit off the top Holyfield’s right ear, then scarred the left and, inevitably, was disqualified.
Tyson subsequently apologised for turning the man known as The Real Deal into The Real Meal.
Holyfield graciously accepted and now, years later, has helped ease his parlous financial situation by auctioning the gloves he wore that infamous night in the Nevada desert.
Ivanovic has accepted an apology, also, but his biter has no retaliation excuse.
Other clubs in Europe or South America may be willing to buy him but Luis Suarez, for all his enormous talent, should have no place at Liverpool nor in English football.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2312912/Luis-Suarez-deserves-greater-punishment-Mike-Tyson-Branislav-Ivanovic-bite-JEFF-POWELL.html#ixzz2RHL066Hh
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I have to say that I felt massively let down by Suarez on Sunday. I mean what the fuck were you at or thinking of you silly little fucker? It gave me a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.
I had alway backed him through his controversies. I still believe he was shafted by Evra, Ferguson and the FA. Then he goes and does something as stupid as this. Biting an opponent for fuck sake!
Absolutely no defence for that.
I couldnt concentrate for the rest of the match. Didnt really care what happened. Sat through it all when normally I would be out walking around the garden for the last ten minutes. I couldnt even celebrate when he equalised because I knew what was coming down the line.
Im still fucking mad at him for letting us all, and himself, down. He's one crazy crazy fucker!
But sell him? NO FUCKING WAY!
I had alway backed him through his controversies. I still believe he was shafted by Evra, Ferguson and the FA. Then he goes and does something as stupid as this. Biting an opponent for fuck sake!
Absolutely no defence for that.
I couldnt concentrate for the rest of the match. Didnt really care what happened. Sat through it all when normally I would be out walking around the garden for the last ten minutes. I couldnt even celebrate when he equalised because I knew what was coming down the line.
Im still fucking mad at him for letting us all, and himself, down. He's one crazy crazy fucker!
But sell him? NO FUCKING WAY!
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Ruddock was one of few players I have actually disliked whilst still playing for us. He wasn't a footballer he was a simple goon.
Suarez with all his flaws isn't anywhere near Ruddocks level of nastiness. He really should keep his mouth shut in this subject.
Suarez with all his flaws isn't anywhere near Ruddocks level of nastiness. He really should keep his mouth shut in this subject.
I'm sure that in the back streets of Dakar people are spitting at each other all the time. Political correctness results in intolerance.
No, I wish he wouldn't but I know he will. For the reasons I said earlier.
So, for me, it's a question: Are we better off with him or without him?
Answers clear for me.
Ultimately though it's up to the employer, do they want an employee who is almost bound to cause them trouble in the future or do they think he's worth working with.
It's hilarious
He deserves worse punishment than Tyson because he didn't bite anyones ear off. LOLLAPALOOZA !
I love how hacks suddenly remember our history when these things happen. Most of the time they can only dimly remember Shanks, and can't remember Paisley at all (because he gets in the way of all the Ginsoak hagiographies), but let Suarez or someone else do something dodgy and all of a sudden you get weeping hacks wailing about besmirching the legacy of Bill and Bob. They'll be polishing pictures of Alex Raisbeck next.
I had a work colleague who was a Manc. When Liverpool lost, he would send me a sympathetic text, expressing deep sorrow that a once-great club had sunk so low.
A smiley face would have been far less annoying.
"Bill Shankly built Liverpool to glory from a ploughed field and a tin hut"
Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
Well I think the fact that our MD had to cancel a trip overseas to tie up deals for our preseason tour to deal with the fall out from his latest tantrum shows you the level that his behaviour reaches up to. Adidas, his own sponsors, have publicly warned him about his conduct so I don't think its a leap to say his actions are potentially damaging from a marketing point as well.
People can laugh that off and say "I dont care as long as he scores" but its not the job of the MD the manager the press department of the club to keep trying to perform damage limitation for a guy that clearly doesn't give a fuck about this club. The club does not exist as a vehicle for Luis Suarez regardless of what he thinks.
That daily mail article is unbelievable.
'his cannibalisation' really. He ate someone? Riiighhhtt.
Fuck me that article is complete shite.
'his cannibalisation' really. He ate someone? Riiighhhtt.
Fuck me that article is complete shite.
