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Keep Suarez?

Sell?

  • YES

    Votes: 19 12.3%
  • NO

    Votes: 135 87.7%

  • Total voters
    154
WTF was the point of the poll in this thread.. ?

Why the fuck in our right mind would we want to sell the stupid cnut ? Did Man Utd Sell Cantona ? NO..

Reason.. He is a born winner.. Managed correctly, with the right players around him that winning mentality can be infectuos and spread amongst the team... The type of mentality does not come cheap either..

Jesus some of you are worse than the Bandwagon jumpers that is the media...
 
As Jeff Powell suggests, I don't think this noble club can recover from this unprecedented embarrassment:
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Is he banned yet? Why is everyone expecting that he is banned for the rest of the season?
 
Is he banned yet? Why is everyone expecting that he is banned for the rest of the season?

Because the FA have said the minimum of 3 matches will not be enough. He has until 6pm today to appeal, but there's no way he'll appeal.
 
Is he banned yet? Why is everyone expecting that he is banned for the rest of the season?
Keep up man - banning is too good for him.

He shall be hung, drawn and quartered in a public ceremony at Lancaster Gate. His rotting remains will be divided and put on display at all 96 league grounds as a reminder to one & all that being Uruguayan, talented and not playing for Man Utd is a combination that the British press and FA Blazer brigade will absolutely not tolerate.
 
*unload my spits* ptuuiiiii

what a load of bollocks. This is indecent!

Ah well that is the only way he gets to rest.... silver lining and all...
 
Is he banned yet? Why is everyone expecting that he is banned for the rest of the season?


He already appears as "Suspended - unknown return date" in the Fantasy Premier League site...

He's been my captain throughout this season. Got to sell him quick before his value drops!
 
The papers seem to think it will be 6-8 games.
My guess is 7. Starting next season with a 3 match ban.
 
In law, an appeal is heard by a different judge. With the FA's Stalinist approach to justice, you appeal to the same bunch of bigoted arseholes who condemned you in the first place.

Yeah, but it's not law though, it's an association who can make their own rules. So, unfortunately, we have to play by their rules whether we like them or not.
 
In law, an appeal is heard by a different judge. With the FA's Stalinist approach to justice, you appeal to the same bunch of bigoted arseholes who condemned you in the first place.
Apparently its something to do with the drug laws in Ireland
 
It's not keeping I have a problem with.

It's the absolutely relentlessly stupid defences of him that people who should know better keep trying to raise.

It's laughable, they waffle on about justice, consistency etc and then just like JJ did two minutes ago ignore it when Suarez gets away with something.

You've become a caricature of yourself in recent times, Ross, and this blithering nonsense is well in line with that. Nobody's defending what he did, not I any more than anyone else. I watched the video of Suarez and that Chilean player a dozen times. There was no "punch". Suarez did exactly the same as Ivanovic did yesterday, turn round and swipe with the flat of his hand somebody who had made the first aggressive move. If your hatred of Suarez hadn't long ago tipped over into the realms of mania I'm sure you'd now be petitioning the FA to charge Ivanovic as well.

Or perhaps not.
 
In law, an appeal is heard by a different judge. With the FA's Stalinist approach to justice, you appeal to the same bunch of bigoted arseholes who condemned you in the first place.

Suarez has many talents, his greatest is evident above. He can make otherwise sane intelligent people lose their reasoning, logic and understanding.

The appeal committee is separate from the regulation commission. But you already knew that.

I find it amazing in the thatcher thread you could cut thought the bullshit but you're throwing it out in this one.
 
That's predicated on the idea that biting - stupid and nasty as it is - is worse than the kind of GBH practised by e.g.McManaman and Aguero in recent weeks. I have to say I find that idea ridiculous.

I thought we weren't comparing incidents? Apparently we are.

I know you're an intelligent human being JJ, so I'm not sure why I have to explain this, but I think there is a distinction to be made between mistimed/unfair challenges, and biting people. Unsavoury tackles are an inevitable hazard of playing football, and happen all the time. I'm not condoning them, but it's quite easy to see how they happen.

Biting is something altogether different as far as I'm concerned. It's not something you accidentally do, or get a bit carried away with. You don't try and bite someone fairly, get carried away with yourself, and bite them too hard. It's a premeditated action, and it's utterly inexcusable for a grown man on a football field. Particularly one representing our football club, and particularly one whom we have already supported (amidst a storm of criticism) through one embarrassing episode already.

I have a feeling if Wayne Rooney had done this you might feel a bit more strongly about it.
 
Dennis Wise used to do it, along with 'helping' an opponent up whilst digging his nails into their wrists or pulling their hairs, and it was all laughed off as part of the 'Crazy gang' mentality, and of course he was a cheeky Cockney. The act isn't good no matter who does it, but the layers of self-righteous humbug that come with reactions to Suarez really do make you want to throw up.
 
The only really comparable incidents we have are what Defoe did, and what Cantona did. Both were not are normally done on a pitch.

We can't compare to the punishment Defoe got, because he got away with it on a technicality(the rule about referees having dealt with something is a non-sense, but it's not relevant), the Cantona punishment could be similar.


But we can compare is to how both Spurs and United dealt with the players afterwards. They both admitted fault, apologised, took the punishment and kept the player. That's what we should do, and it's what I think we will do.
 
Haha, fuck me.


Boxing legend Mike Tyson has leapt to the defence of Luis Suarez following his bite on Branislav Ivanovic.

Liverpool's under-fire striker is set for a lengthy spell on the sidelines after the Football Association charged him with violent conduct following his attack on the Chelsea defender during Sunday's game at Anfield.

Anfield chiefs hit Suarez with a fine, believed to stand in the region of £200,000, for his behaviour ahead of the verdict from Wembley officials, who are set to reconvene tomorrow to decide his punishment, with the Uruguayan now set to miss the rest of this season and possibly several games of the forthcoming campaign.

Former heavyweight champion Tyson gained notoriety when he bit the ear of rival Evander Holyfield during a bout in 1997 and began following Suarez on Twitter in the aftermath of the incident, which is the latest in a long line of controversies for the 26-year-old which preceded his 2011 move to Merseyside.

But speaking on the Glenn David radio show in the United States, Tyson backed the Premier League's current joint-top scorer to put this latest furore behind him, citing his own reconciliation with Holyfield as evidence.

He said: "I saw this guy on the Twitter thing and thought I would check it out and see what his journey was all about.

"You know, he bit somebody, you know. S*** happens, you know what I mean?

"I'm sure he made amends with his guy. I made amends with Evander, and we go on with our lives."

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You've become a caricature of yourself in recent times, Ross, and this blithering nonsense is well in line with that. Nobody's defending what he did, not I any more than anyone else. I watched the video of Suarez and that Chilean player a dozen times. There was no "punch". Suarez did exactly the same as Ivanovic did yesterday, turn round and swipe with the flat of his hand somebody who had made the first aggressive move. If your hatred of Suarez hadn't long ago tipped over into the realms of mania I'm sure you'd now be petitioning the FA to charge Ivanovic as well.

Or perhaps not.

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Nobody's defending what Suarez did, but here's my defence of him.
 
I thought we weren't comparing incidents? Apparently we are.

I know you're an intelligent human being JJ, so I'm not sure why I have to explain this, but I think there is a distinction to be made between mistimed/unfair challenges, and biting people. Unsavoury tackles are an inevitable hazard of playing football, and happen all the time. I'm not condoning them, but it's quite easy to see how they happen.

Biting is something altogether different as far as I'm concerned. It's not something you accidentally do, or get a bit carried away with. You don't try and bite someone fairly, get carried away with yourself, and bite them too hard. It's a premeditated action, and it's utterly inexcusable for a grown man on a football field. Particularly one representing our football club, and particularly one whom we have already supported (amidst a storm of criticism) through one embarrassing episode already.

I have a feeling if Wayne Rooney had done this you might feel a bit more strongly about it.

No, Del, I would not. For one thing I really don't think the "premeditated" point stands at all - tackles like the most recent ones I've referred to are at least as premeditated as Suarez' actions at the weekend. For another - and this is the crucial point as far as I'm concerned - what Suarez did was nowhere near as dangerous. It's more unusual, but so what? AFAIC the more dangerous act is the one which deserves the greater disapproval, period. Otherwise you're treating the less dangerous act as the more heinous one merely because it's seen less often and that, to me, is indefensibly shallow.
 
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