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[quote author=Hansern link=topic=45570.msg1344306#msg1344306 date=1307389758]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45570.msg1344300#msg1344300 date=1307389177]
Hansern has just levelled up on positivity XP.
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Ha! Dont you know it brotha! If we start well next season I'll probably die of positive thinking and excitement..
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You'll reach Grand Mage level mate if you carry on.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45570.msg1344300#msg1344300 date=1307389177]
Hansern has just levelled up on positivity XP.
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Ha! Dont you know it brotha! If we start well next season I'll probably die of positive thinking and excitement..
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You'll reach Grand Mage level mate if you carry on.
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[quote author=Hansern link=topic=45570.msg1344306#msg1344306 date=1307389758]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45570.msg1344300#msg1344300 date=1307389177]
Hansern has just levelled up on positivity XP.
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Ha! Dont you know it brotha! If we start well next season I'll probably die of positive thinking and excitement..
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You'll reach Grand Mage level mate if you carry on.
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I'll tone it down before that happens mate. 🙂
Seriously though, it probably has something to do with things really going my way at work these days and life in general is gooood aswell. It maybe comes across in my posting more than i realize. ;D
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=45570.msg1344306#msg1344306 date=1307389758]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45570.msg1344300#msg1344300 date=1307389177]
Hansern has just levelled up on positivity XP.
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Ha! Dont you know it brotha! If we start well next season I'll probably die of positive thinking and excitement..
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You'll reach Grand Mage level mate if you carry on.
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I'll tone it down before that happens mate. 🙂
Seriously though, it probably has something to do with things really going my way at work these days and life in general is gooood aswell. It maybe comes across in my posting more than i realize. ;D
*tries to imagine Hansern's HOT Norwegian girlfriend*
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jun/06/jordan-henderson-liverpool-sunderland
Jordan Henderson may become a Liverpool player before he departs for the European Under-21 Championship providing the club raise their offer for the Sunderland midfielder towards £20m.
Sunderland and Liverpool officials opened talks last week and there is acceptance at the Stadium of Light that the 20-year-old will leave if the £20m valuation Steve Bruce, the manager, has placed on the midfielder is met.
Liverpool are understood to have increased their initial offer of £13m to around £16m over the weekend. Sunderland rejected both bids but, with Henderson keen to have his future resolved before the Under-21 tournament in Denmark, another improved offer from Liverpool may secure Kenny Dalglish the first of several major transfers expected at Anfield this summer.
Sunderland are not under pressure to sell a home-grown player who committed to a new five-year contract at the club in April 2010. However, with Henderson receptive to a move to Anfield, Liverpool's owner, Fenway Sports Group, edging closer to Sunderland's asking price and talks continuing between the clubs, a resolution may arrive before the midfielder teams up with Stuart Pearce's England squad on Wednesday.
Manchester United were linked with Henderson when his fine start to the season earned a call-up to the senior England side and their friendly against France in November. But Liverpool have made the more concerted effort to clinch his signature, even though the midfielder's form dipped as Sunderland dropped down the table in the second half of the campaign and he was booed by the club's supporters at one point.
Dalglish envisages a central midfield role for Henderson at Anfield, despite appearing to be well stocked in that department with Steven Gerrard, Lucas Leiva, Raul Meireles and the emergence of Jay Spearing. The Sunderland player has also operated on the right of midfield since establishing himself in Bruce's team but prefers to play in the middle, as the Liverpool manager has noted.
There is a desire from Liverpool's director of football, Damien Comolli, to sign young talent although, should the club pay £20m for Henderson, it would reflect a willingness to spend heavily in the interests of Champions League qualification rather than securing emerging players at a more cost-effective stage. Ashley Young, another Anfield target, appeared to tilt the contest for his signature towards Manchester United following England's draw with Switzerland on Saturday when he expressed his wish to play in the Champions League.
Bruce is keen to address Sunderland's alarming slide since January by acquiring "eight or nine" players this summer. The Sunderland manager still has available the initial £18m received from Aston Villa for Darren Bent, and £20m for Henderson – a player he has heralded as one of the finest prospects in the country – would help his rebuilding plans.
Liverpool are also continuing efforts to sign Henderson's England Under-21 colleague Connor Wickham from Ipswich Town. The 18-year-old is attracting interest from several Premier League clubs but Liverpool's offer for the striker is believed to be around £2m short of Ipswich's £10m valuation.
Jordan Henderson may become a Liverpool player before he departs for the European Under-21 Championship providing the club raise their offer for the Sunderland midfielder towards £20m.
Sunderland and Liverpool officials opened talks last week and there is acceptance at the Stadium of Light that the 20-year-old will leave if the £20m valuation Steve Bruce, the manager, has placed on the midfielder is met.
Liverpool are understood to have increased their initial offer of £13m to around £16m over the weekend. Sunderland rejected both bids but, with Henderson keen to have his future resolved before the Under-21 tournament in Denmark, another improved offer from Liverpool may secure Kenny Dalglish the first of several major transfers expected at Anfield this summer.
Sunderland are not under pressure to sell a home-grown player who committed to a new five-year contract at the club in April 2010. However, with Henderson receptive to a move to Anfield, Liverpool's owner, Fenway Sports Group, edging closer to Sunderland's asking price and talks continuing between the clubs, a resolution may arrive before the midfielder teams up with Stuart Pearce's England squad on Wednesday.
Manchester United were linked with Henderson when his fine start to the season earned a call-up to the senior England side and their friendly against France in November. But Liverpool have made the more concerted effort to clinch his signature, even though the midfielder's form dipped as Sunderland dropped down the table in the second half of the campaign and he was booed by the club's supporters at one point.
Dalglish envisages a central midfield role for Henderson at Anfield, despite appearing to be well stocked in that department with Steven Gerrard, Lucas Leiva, Raul Meireles and the emergence of Jay Spearing. The Sunderland player has also operated on the right of midfield since establishing himself in Bruce's team but prefers to play in the middle, as the Liverpool manager has noted.
There is a desire from Liverpool's director of football, Damien Comolli, to sign young talent although, should the club pay £20m for Henderson, it would reflect a willingness to spend heavily in the interests of Champions League qualification rather than securing emerging players at a more cost-effective stage. Ashley Young, another Anfield target, appeared to tilt the contest for his signature towards Manchester United following England's draw with Switzerland on Saturday when he expressed his wish to play in the Champions League.
Bruce is keen to address Sunderland's alarming slide since January by acquiring "eight or nine" players this summer. The Sunderland manager still has available the initial £18m received from Aston Villa for Darren Bent, and £20m for Henderson – a player he has heralded as one of the finest prospects in the country – would help his rebuilding plans.
Liverpool are also continuing efforts to sign Henderson's England Under-21 colleague Connor Wickham from Ipswich Town. The 18-year-old is attracting interest from several Premier League clubs but Liverpool's offer for the striker is believed to be around £2m short of Ipswich's £10m valuation.
It's an odd link, but he's young, versatile and English. What does it say about our transfer intentions this Summer though if we're willing to spend just short of £20m on the lad? Especially when you consider that his favoured role is in a position we wouldn't really consider a priority.
Perhaps this is not too dissimilar to when Comolli shelled out near enough 20M on Bent when Spurs priorities lay elsewhere...
The general consensus appears to be that Henderson is more of a box-to-box player with a greater emphasis on attacking and our midfield priority at least in my opinion is a defensive midfielder.
I do think we need a better midfield overall, so if this guy is fantastic than that's great, but it leaves us still needing another defensive midfielder. And it means Spearing and Shelvey should probably start looking elsewhere for next season.
The general consensus appears to be that Henderson is more of a box-to-box player with a greater emphasis on attacking and our midfield priority at least in my opinion is a defensive midfielder.
I do think we need a better midfield overall, so if this guy is fantastic than that's great, but it leaves us still needing another defensive midfielder. And it means Spearing and Shelvey should probably start looking elsewhere for next season.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=45570.msg1344361#msg1344361 date=1307395118]
Perhaps this is not too dissimilar to when Comolli shelled out near enough 20M on Bent when Spurs priorities lay elsewhere...
The general consensus appears to be that Henderson is more of a box-to-box player with a greater emphasis on attacking and our midfield priority at least in my opinion is a defensive midfielder.
I do think we need a better midfield overall, so if this guy is fantastic than that's great, but it leaves us still needing another defensive midfielder. And it means Spearing and Shelvey should probably start looking elsewhere for next season.
[/quote]Or 18m on Bentley when they had Lennon.
We should move on here. We could get Defour or DeRossi or Hazard or Fellaini for 20m
Silly money.
Perhaps this is not too dissimilar to when Comolli shelled out near enough 20M on Bent when Spurs priorities lay elsewhere...
The general consensus appears to be that Henderson is more of a box-to-box player with a greater emphasis on attacking and our midfield priority at least in my opinion is a defensive midfielder.
I do think we need a better midfield overall, so if this guy is fantastic than that's great, but it leaves us still needing another defensive midfielder. And it means Spearing and Shelvey should probably start looking elsewhere for next season.
[/quote]Or 18m on Bentley when they had Lennon.
We should move on here. We could get Defour or DeRossi or Hazard or Fellaini for 20m
Silly money.
Blaaagh! I'm not fussed on him. Especially not at that price.
It's all a smoke screen for Kaka lads, relax.
Dave Usher said he heard we have got £50 million plus what we can raise in sales.
I like Henderson and think he'll be a very good long term investment. Happy with this signing.
I am also confident we'll get a star as well - probably Hazard, which apparently we have agreed a fee, but it is up to the player now.
I like Henderson and think he'll be a very good long term investment. Happy with this signing.
I am also confident we'll get a star as well - probably Hazard, which apparently we have agreed a fee, but it is up to the player now.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45570.msg1344370#msg1344370 date=1307396131]
Fair enough. I guess weve scouted the fucker so if he signs heres hoping hes hot shit.
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Hope so mate. He'll learn so much playing alongside Gerrard and it'll stand him in good stead for years to come.
Can't say i'm completely convinced but i'm excited at the same time. I'm sure every LFC fan is the same.
Fair enough. I guess weve scouted the fucker so if he signs heres hoping hes hot shit.
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Hope so mate. He'll learn so much playing alongside Gerrard and it'll stand him in good stead for years to come.
Can't say i'm completely convinced but i'm excited at the same time. I'm sure every LFC fan is the same.
Have to say, I don't regard Hazard or Mata as stars. I'd love us to get them because they're almost certainly a step up from Pennants and Rieras but I don't think they're 'stars'.
I think the only stars we've been linked with are Kaka and Aguero.
I think the only stars we've been linked with are Kaka and Aguero.
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=45570.msg1344374#msg1344374 date=1307396517]
Have to say, I don't regard Hazard or Mata as stars. I'd love us to get them because they're almost certainly a step up from Pennants and Rieras but I don't think they're 'stars'.
I think the only stars we've been linked with are Kaka and Aguero.
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Kaka is a big name - he hasn't been a star for a good while now.
Have to say, I don't regard Hazard or Mata as stars. I'd love us to get them because they're almost certainly a step up from Pennants and Rieras but I don't think they're 'stars'.
I think the only stars we've been linked with are Kaka and Aguero.
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Kaka is a big name - he hasn't been a star for a good while now.
[quote author=LFD link=topic=45570.msg1344372#msg1344372 date=1307396349]
Dave Usher said he heard we have got £50 million plus what we can raise in sales.
I like Henderson and think he'll be a very good long term investment. Happy with this signing.
I am also confident we'll get a star as well - probably Hazard, which apparently we have agreed a fee, but it is up to the player now.
[/quote]The concern here for me is that we have 50m plus sales (of which we can expect maybe 10 to 15 million) meaning lets say 63m
We URGENTLY need the winger we have been crying out for for millenia, and the firmed up (according to the press) deals are:
Henderson (lets say) 18m
Enrique (lets say) 8m
Dann (lets say) 8m
Fatty (lets say) 10m
so we are down to under 20m for the one position we need to be really hiring world class in and we have 2 spare midfielders in the Gerrard/Meireles role and....no Dm.
Obviously this will be spun as me panicking and i'll be told to relax and wait and see etc.
Im just concerned that we are spreading our TWO world class signing money too thin again.
We'll see i guess.
Dave Usher said he heard we have got £50 million plus what we can raise in sales.
I like Henderson and think he'll be a very good long term investment. Happy with this signing.
I am also confident we'll get a star as well - probably Hazard, which apparently we have agreed a fee, but it is up to the player now.
[/quote]The concern here for me is that we have 50m plus sales (of which we can expect maybe 10 to 15 million) meaning lets say 63m
We URGENTLY need the winger we have been crying out for for millenia, and the firmed up (according to the press) deals are:
Henderson (lets say) 18m
Enrique (lets say) 8m
Dann (lets say) 8m
Fatty (lets say) 10m
so we are down to under 20m for the one position we need to be really hiring world class in and we have 2 spare midfielders in the Gerrard/Meireles role and....no Dm.
Obviously this will be spun as me panicking and i'll be told to relax and wait and see etc.
Im just concerned that we are spreading our TWO world class signing money too thin again.
We'll see i guess.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45570.msg1344387#msg1344387 date=1307399468]
[quote author=LFD link=topic=45570.msg1344372#msg1344372 date=1307396349]
Dave Usher said he heard we have got £50 million plus what we can raise in sales.
I like Henderson and think he'll be a very good long term investment. Happy with this signing.
I am also confident we'll get a star as well - probably Hazard, which apparently we have agreed a fee, but it is up to the player now.
[/quote]The concern here for me is that we have 50m plus sales (of which we can expect maybe 10 to 15 million) meaning lets say 63m
We URGENTLY need the winger we have been crying out for for millenia, and the firmed up (according to the press) deals are:
Henderson (lets say) 18m
Enrique (lets say) 8m
Dann (lets say) 8m
Fatty (lets say) 10m
so we are down to under 20m for the one position we need to be really hiring world class in and we have 2 spare midfielders in the Gerrard/Meireles role and....no Dm.
Obviously this will be spun as me panicking and i'll be told to relax and wait and see etc.
Im just concerned that we are spreading our TWO world class signing money too thin again.
We'll see i guess.
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Very true.
Just seems as if we've tried and failed with every top class winger out there.
[quote author=LFD link=topic=45570.msg1344372#msg1344372 date=1307396349]
Dave Usher said he heard we have got £50 million plus what we can raise in sales.
I like Henderson and think he'll be a very good long term investment. Happy with this signing.
I am also confident we'll get a star as well - probably Hazard, which apparently we have agreed a fee, but it is up to the player now.
[/quote]The concern here for me is that we have 50m plus sales (of which we can expect maybe 10 to 15 million) meaning lets say 63m
We URGENTLY need the winger we have been crying out for for millenia, and the firmed up (according to the press) deals are:
Henderson (lets say) 18m
Enrique (lets say) 8m
Dann (lets say) 8m
Fatty (lets say) 10m
so we are down to under 20m for the one position we need to be really hiring world class in and we have 2 spare midfielders in the Gerrard/Meireles role and....no Dm.
Obviously this will be spun as me panicking and i'll be told to relax and wait and see etc.
Im just concerned that we are spreading our TWO world class signing money too thin again.
We'll see i guess.
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Very true.
Just seems as if we've tried and failed with every top class winger out there.
Patience.
We had Sterling on the wing. We had dreams and songs to sing...
We had Sterling on the wing. We had dreams and songs to sing...
I was joking.
tbh all the most believable links tend to back up what those twitter ITKs have been saying, namely that FSG will back transfers on their own merits, as opposed to giving a budget as such. wishful thinking, maybe, but there's just no way i can see us spending close to £30m on henderson and wickham when that would leave us struggling for other targets (downing, jones, enrique, we're talking another £40m there). that just doesn't seem likely: if it's true, and we end up signing henderson and wickham, then to me they're every inch signings of a club prepared to puch the boat out, and frankly, to hell with the cost.
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=45570.msg1344374#msg1344374 date=1307396517]
Have to say, I don't regard Hazard or Mata as stars. I'd love us to get them because they're almost certainly a step up from Pennants and Rieras but I don't think they're 'stars'.
I think the only stars we've been linked with are Kaka and Aguero.
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Have you seen much of Hazard?
He was voted player of the year in the French league this season. Has almost every top club interested in him. He is a star!
Have to say, I don't regard Hazard or Mata as stars. I'd love us to get them because they're almost certainly a step up from Pennants and Rieras but I don't think they're 'stars'.
I think the only stars we've been linked with are Kaka and Aguero.
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Have you seen much of Hazard?
He was voted player of the year in the French league this season. Has almost every top club interested in him. He is a star!
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45570.msg1344387#msg1344387 date=1307399468]
[quote author=LFD link=topic=45570.msg1344372#msg1344372 date=1307396349]
Dave Usher said he heard we have got £50 million plus what we can raise in sales.
I like Henderson and think he'll be a very good long term investment. Happy with this signing.
I am also confident we'll get a star as well - probably Hazard, which apparently we have agreed a fee, but it is up to the player now.
[/quote]The concern here for me is that we have 50m plus sales (of which we can expect maybe 10 to 15 million) meaning lets say 63m
We URGENTLY need the winger we have been crying out for for millenia, and the firmed up (according to the press) deals are:
Henderson (lets say) 18m
Enrique (lets say) 8m
Dann (lets say) 8m
Fatty (lets say) 10m
so we are down to under 20m for the one position we need to be really hiring world class in and we have 2 spare midfielders in the Gerrard/Meireles role and....no Dm.
Obviously this will be spun as me panicking and i'll be told to relax and wait and see etc.
Im just concerned that we are spreading our TWO world class signing money too thin again.
We'll see i guess.
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Don't worry. Plenty of cash left over go sign Downing.
[quote author=LFD link=topic=45570.msg1344372#msg1344372 date=1307396349]
Dave Usher said he heard we have got £50 million plus what we can raise in sales.
I like Henderson and think he'll be a very good long term investment. Happy with this signing.
I am also confident we'll get a star as well - probably Hazard, which apparently we have agreed a fee, but it is up to the player now.
[/quote]The concern here for me is that we have 50m plus sales (of which we can expect maybe 10 to 15 million) meaning lets say 63m
We URGENTLY need the winger we have been crying out for for millenia, and the firmed up (according to the press) deals are:
Henderson (lets say) 18m
Enrique (lets say) 8m
Dann (lets say) 8m
Fatty (lets say) 10m
so we are down to under 20m for the one position we need to be really hiring world class in and we have 2 spare midfielders in the Gerrard/Meireles role and....no Dm.
Obviously this will be spun as me panicking and i'll be told to relax and wait and see etc.
Im just concerned that we are spreading our TWO world class signing money too thin again.
We'll see i guess.
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Don't worry. Plenty of cash left over go sign Downing.
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[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=45570.msg1344374#msg1344374 date=1307396517]
Have to say, I don't regard Hazard or Mata as stars. I'd love us to get them because they're almost certainly a step up from Pennants and Rieras but I don't think they're 'stars'.
I think the only stars we've been linked with are Kaka and Aguero.
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Have you seen much of Hazard?
He was voted player of the year in the French league this season. Has almost every top club interested in him. He is a star!
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Ha! breaking bad...
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=45570.msg1344374#msg1344374 date=1307396517]
Have to say, I don't regard Hazard or Mata as stars. I'd love us to get them because they're almost certainly a step up from Pennants and Rieras but I don't think they're 'stars'.
I think the only stars we've been linked with are Kaka and Aguero.
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Have you seen much of Hazard?
He was voted player of the year in the French league this season. Has almost every top club interested in him. He is a star!
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Ha! breaking bad...
Hmmmm.... who was voted player of the year in France last year? And the year before?
Sorry, I accept he may be fantastic and he may be 'big in France' but I don't think he's a star yet.
Sorry, I accept he may be fantastic and he may be 'big in France' but I don't think he's a star yet.
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