Jordan Henderson

[FoxForceFive]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45570.msg1344698#msg1344698 date=1307443400]
A fifth of a hundred Million is indeed a huge wedge.

Im trying not to be arsed and be all like 'Yeah we're minted' but we arent.

Leeds did this a few years ago. Just because our owners are American and not English doesnt mean the result would be any different. I hope they (Americans, Kenny, Comolli etc) know what the fuck they are doing, because i dont.
[/quote]

Nah, the owners aren't that naive.

They're raising capital in advance sales of tickets &, if rumours are to be believed (& this makes perfect sense) have put aside the loan payments that would have been made & were accounted for already, towards transfers.

We were paying 40m a season in interest alone, that plus sales from players is a pretty penny.

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=45570.msg1344706#msg1344706 date=1307443718]
I'm a bit more concerned that the two bridgade generals, Avvy and Oncey, are cracking under the pressure of leading such a prestigous and elite group of young men.

Stand up and be counted, or surrender your roles.
[/quote]Ha. I still think when the season begins we will go on to win it. But that we will go into administration the following summer.

 

[Avmenon]

I'M A COLONEL

 

[Sunny]

[quote author=Avvy link=topic=45570.msg1344717#msg1344717 date=1307443884]
I'M A COLONEL
[/quote]

Yeh Colonel Sanders.

*makes chicken noises*

 

[LeTallecWiz]

[quote author=Avvy link=topic=45570.msg1344717#msg1344717 date=1307443884]
I'M A COLONEL
[/quote]

I will demote you to private in a second

 

[Jack D Rips]

[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=45570.msg1344706#msg1344706 date=1307443718]
I'm a bit more concerned that the two bridgade generals, Avvy and Oncey, are cracking under the pressure of leading such a prestigous and elite group of young men.

Stand up and be counted, or surrender your roles.
[/quote]

Its like being in the trenches with Edmund Blackadder!

 

[DHSC]

BORK BORK.

 

[Avmenon]

Top ranking officers are allowed to express reservations with their political masters.

It's not a sign of weakness.

 

[Rosco]

[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=45570.msg1344715#msg1344715 date=1307443867]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45570.msg1344698#msg1344698 date=1307443400]
A fifth of a hundred Million is indeed a huge wedge.

Im trying not to be arsed and be all like 'Yeah we're minted' but we arent.

Leeds did this a few years ago. Just because our owners are American and not English doesnt mean the result would be any different. I hope they (Americans, Kenny, Comolli etc) know what the fuck they are doing, because i dont.
[/quote]

Nah, the owners aren't that naive.

They're raising capital in advance sales of tickets &, if rumours are to be believed (& this makes perfect sense) have put aside the loan payments that would have been made & were accounted for already, towards transfers.

We were paying 40m a season in interest alone, that plus sales from players is a pretty penny.
[/quote]

Thats only half the picture.

 

[Sunny]

[quote author=Avvy link=topic=45570.msg1344727#msg1344727 date=1307444212]
Top ranking officers are allowed to express reservations with their political masters.

It's not a sign of weakness.
[/quote]

You're supposed to have tactical and strategic plans to overcome such issues Col Avvy. I think we may have to call t'committee to order. You're showing weakness in front of the troops. Not acceptable. No no it won't do at all.

 

[Sunny]

[quote author=Rosco link=topic=45570.msg1344729#msg1344729 date=1307444330]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=45570.msg1344715#msg1344715 date=1307443867]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45570.msg1344698#msg1344698 date=1307443400]
A fifth of a hundred Million is indeed a huge wedge.

Im trying not to be arsed and be all like 'Yeah we're minted' but we arent.

Leeds did this a few years ago. Just because our owners are American and not English doesnt mean the result would be any different. I hope they (Americans, Kenny, Comolli etc) know what the fuck they are doing, because i dont.
[/quote]

Nah, the owners aren't that naive.

They're raising capital in advance sales of tickets &, if rumours are to be believed (& this makes perfect sense) have put aside the loan payments that would have been made & were accounted for already, towards transfers.

We were paying 40m a season in interest alone, that plus sales from players is a pretty penny.
[/quote]

Thats only half the picture.
[/quote]

What's the other half then naysayer ? Speak now before the court...

 

[Oncy]

To extend on Genes point

England 2016

Hart - City
Robinson - Liverpool
Kelly - Liverpool
Wisdom - Liverpool
Johnson - Liverpool
Henderson - Liverpool
Wilshere - Arsenal
Shelvey - Liverpool
Sterling - Liverpool
Wickham - Liverpool
Carroll - Liverpool

 

[Avmenon]

[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45570.msg1344730#msg1344730 date=1307444346]
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=45570.msg1344727#msg1344727 date=1307444212]
Top ranking officers are allowed to express reservations with their political masters.

It's not a sign of weakness.
[/quote]

You're supposed to have tactical and strategic plans to overcome such issues Col Avvy. I think we may have to call t'committee to order. You're showing weakness in front of the troops. Not acceptable. No no it won't do at all.


[/quote]

BAAP!!!!

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45570.msg1344730#msg1344730 date=1307444346]
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=45570.msg1344727#msg1344727 date=1307444212]
Top ranking officers are allowed to express reservations with their political masters.

It's not a sign of weakness.
[/quote]

You're supposed to have tactical and strategic plans to overcome such issues Col Avvy. I think we may have to call t'committee to order. You're showing weakness in front of the troops. Not acceptable. No no it won't do at all.


[/quote]There wont be any fucking mutiny you giant piss streak. Now sit down.

 

[Fabio]

if our leaders don't have faith in us....

 

[Jack D Rips]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45570.msg1344735#msg1344735 date=1307444467]
To extend on Genes point

England 2016

Hart - City
Robinson - Liverpool
Kelly - Liverpool
Wisdom - Liverpool
Johnson - Liverpool
Henderson - Liverpool
Wilshere - Arsenal
Shelvey - Liverpool
Sterling - Liverpool
Wickham - Liverpool
Carroll - Liverpool

[/quote]

Hart ( reserve keeper) and Wilshire will be our players by then as well

 

[Sunny]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45570.msg1344737#msg1344737 date=1307444518]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45570.msg1344730#msg1344730 date=1307444346]
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=45570.msg1344727#msg1344727 date=1307444212]
Top ranking officers are allowed to express reservations with their political masters.

It's not a sign of weakness.
[/quote]

You're supposed to have tactical and strategic plans to overcome such issues Col Avvy. I think we may have to call t'committee to order. You're showing weakness in front of the troops. Not acceptable. No no it won't do at all.


[/quote]There wont be any fucking mutiny you giant piss streak. Now sit down.
[/quote]

 

[Avmenon]

The end result will be the same.

Victory in May.

Now SIT DOWN!

 

[Oncy]

 

[Sunny]

 

[Rosco]

[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45570.msg1344732#msg1344732 date=1307444412]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=45570.msg1344729#msg1344729 date=1307444330]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=45570.msg1344715#msg1344715 date=1307443867]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45570.msg1344698#msg1344698 date=1307443400]
A fifth of a hundred Million is indeed a huge wedge.

Im trying not to be arsed and be all like 'Yeah we're minted' but we arent.

Leeds did this a few years ago. Just because our owners are American and not English doesnt mean the result would be any different. I hope they (Americans, Kenny, Comolli etc) know what the fuck they are doing, because i dont.
[/quote]

Nah, the owners aren't that naive.

They're raising capital in advance sales of tickets &, if rumours are to be believed (& this makes perfect sense) have put aside the loan payments that would have been made & were accounted for already, towards transfers.

We were paying 40m a season in interest alone, that plus sales from players is a pretty penny.
[/quote]

Thats only half the picture.
[/quote]

What's the other half then naysayer ? Speak now before the court...
[/quote]

the 150m that g&h were 'swindled' out of. The 40m payment of interest was only possible because of that money they were forced to put in.
So on one side there won't be 40m going out on the other there won't be 50m coming in.

That said given the increases in sponsorship and the lesser amounts that should be coming out for past transfers we will still have money to spend. I just dont see all the rumours panning out unless some more sales are planned.

 

[Sunny]

the 150m that g&h were 'swindled' out of. The 40m payment of interest was only possible because of that money they were forced to put in.
So on one side there won't be 40m going out on the other there won't be 50m coming in.

That said given the increases in sponsorship and the lesser amounts that should be coming out for past transfers we will still have money to spend. I just dont see all the rumours panning out unless some more sales are planned.

I don't get it mate. Why would £50m be coming in ? Wasn't the £150m raised simply their required investment for a re-loan ?? It wasn't earmarked for transfers or the like?

 

[peterhague]

[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45570.msg1344758#msg1344758 date=1307446058]

the 150m that g&h were 'swindled' out of. The 40m payment of interest was only possible because of that money they were forced to put in.
So on one side there won't be 40m going out on the other there won't be 50m coming in.

That said given the increases in sponsorship and the lesser amounts that should be coming out for past transfers we will still have money to spend. I just dont see all the rumours panning out unless some more sales are planned.

I don't get it mate. Why would £50m be coming in ? Wasn't the £150m raised simply their required investment for a re-loan ?? It wasn't earmarked for transfers or the like?
[/quote]

the simple way to look at it is that we were making losses roughly equivalent to the interest being paid out each year, so it's naive to suggest that all of a sudden we've got £40m of extra funds to spend on transfers. the interest was being funded by the club's losses, or effectively H&G's cash injections.

 

[Sunny]

I get it now.

 

[zlatan18]

Reminds me abit of Joe Cole back when he use to be good, but with the potential to be alot better. I hope we sign him

 

[Sunny]

Can't see that comparison myself.

 

[Peatcheo]

According to the whole of twitter, this could go through tonight!

 

[link]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jun/07/charlie-adam-blackpool-liverpool?CMP=twt_gu




Liverpool want Charlie Adam to follow Jordan Henderson into Anfield

• Kenny Dalglish could offer in the region of £8m for Scot
• Liverpool also in talks with Roma over goalkeeper Don




Andy Hunter
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 7 June 2011 22.00 BST
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Blackpool's Charlie Adam is wanted by Liverpool to bolster their midfield options. Photograph: Anna Gowthorpe/PA Wire/Press Association Images


Liverpool will continue their efforts to add Charlie Adam to their midfield for next season, once they succeed in signing Jordan Henderson from Sunderland.

Anfield officials are in negotiations with their Sunderland counterparts over the valuation of Henderson, with the latter refusing to budge on a £20m asking price for the once-capped England player. Liverpool and Henderson wanted the transfer to be completed before he left for the European Under-21 Championship in Denmark on Wednesday but that was not a make-or-break deadline. It was born of a desire on the midfielder's part to focus on the tournament, but there is an acceptance among all parties that the deal will eventually go through.

Kenny Dalglish envisages a central -midfield role for Henderson, despite his ability to play on the right, and Liverpool having a wealth of options in that area, in Steven Gerrard, Lucas Leiva, Raul Meireles and Jay Spearing. Yet the Liverpool manager also wants Adam in addition to Sunderland's homegrown 20-year-old and he will return to Blackpool with a revised offer for the Scotland player.

Liverpool had a £12m bid rejected by Blackpool on deadline day in January as Ian Holloway fought to retain his influential midfielder in the campaign to avoid relegation. With Blackpool having been relegated from the Premier League on the final day of the season, Liverpool will resurrect their interest in the 25-year-old, who was also subject of a bid from Tottenham Hotspur in January. Liverpool are expected to return with an offer in the region of £8m. Adam has made it clear he wants to remain in the Premier League and would relish a move to Anfield.

Liverpool are also in talks with Roma to sign the Brazilian goalkeeper Alexander Doni, as Dalglish is keen to change the back-up for his first choice goalkeeper, José Reina this summer. Brad Jones, who was signed last year for £2.3m from Middlesbrough, is available for transfer. Brad Friedel chose Tottenham above Liverpool, one of his former clubs, on the basis that he will play more regularly at White Hart Lane.

Doni's agent, Ovidio Colucci, said: "I spoke to the club [Roma] yesterday [Tuesday] and they confirmed they are holding talks with Liverpool to reach an agreement regarding the transfer of Doni. Once an agreement is reached between the two clubs, we will begin negotiating personal terms with Liverpool. Doni would be very happy to join Liverpool and play in the Premier League."

The 31-year-old joined Roma from the Brazilian side Juventude in 2005. He has only 12 months remaining on his contract. He has been an understudy to Júlio Sérgio in recent seasons and made 16 league appearances for Roma this last season
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[link]

Tony Barrett, George Caulkin 1 minute ago
Liverpool are set to renew their longstanding interest in Charlie Adam, the Blackpool midfield player, after they moved closer to an agreement with Sunderland over Jordan Henderson’s proposed move to Anfield.

The determination of Liverpool’s owners, Fenway Sports Group (FSG), to restore the club to English football’s elite will be made apparent with the sanctioning of a series of transfers, starting with proposed deals for both Henderson — whose signing would see David Ngog, the forward, move to Sunderland in part-exchange — and Adam.

It had been mooted that Liverpool’s attempts to snare Henderson would result in them dropping their interest in Adam as both players operate in central midfield, a position in which they already have a number of options. But the 25-year-old remains a key target for Kenny Dalglish, with the Liverpool manager keen to bolster his alternatives in midfield for the coming season.

Dalglish attempted to sign Adam during the January transfer window only to see an offer in the region of £7 million initially rejected and subsequently dismissed as “unrealistic” and “unacceptable” by Ian Holloway, the Blackpool manager.

But Blackpool’s bargaining position has been damaged by their relegation from the Barclays Premier League to the npower Championship and also by Adam entering the final year of his contract. Having had a transfer request rejected amid Liverpool’s interest in January, the Scotland international is unlikely to be passive when the Merseyside club return with another offer.

Holloway continues to maintain that he would rather lose his captain for nothing at the end of next season than allow him to leave for a knockdown price this summer, but Liverpool will look for a negotiated settlement that will suit all parties rather than allow the saga to rumble on.

In what promises to be a summer of high activity at Anfield, Liverpool are also ready to step up their interest in Stewart Downing, the Aston Villa wide midfield player, and Connor Wickham, the Ipswich Town forward.

Downing’s recent admission that his career is “at a crossroads” has raised the possibility of the England international leaving Villa Park this summer and Liverpool are ready to offer the 26-year-old an opportunity to fulfil his ambitions with them should he signal an intent to move.

Wickham is seen as a player of potential who already has the talent to compete for a place in Dalglish’s squad, despite being just 18 years old. Jeffrén Suárez, the Barcelona forward, has also come into the spotlight after giving an interview to Spanish radio in which he claimed to be aware of interest from Liverpool.

But tying up a deal to sign Henderson remains their immediate priority, with discussions with Sunderland now at an advanced stage and focusing on their respective valuations of Ngog, the France Under-21 striker.

Sunderland value Henderson, who has informed his boyhood club of his desire to move, at a minimum of £20 million, but were willing to accept £13 million plus Ngog, the 22-year-old.

Liverpool had been prepared to offer £11 million in cash plus the player and were seeking add-ons to cover appearances, an arrangement that Sunderland indicated they would not accept.

Ngog’s arrival would be welcome given the lack of fit strikers at the disposal of Steve Bruce, the Sunderland manager, who retains an interest in Peter Crouch, of Tottenham Hotspur.

Sunderland believe they are close to signing Keiren Westwood, the Coventry City goalkeeper, who becomes a free agent this summer, and are also eager to add Sebastian Larsson, who is out of contract at Birmingham City, to their squad.
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[Squiggles]

So our first signings are going to be two CM's, despite the fact that we haven't got a left back, nor a left winger.

You have to assume that one of Spearing and Lucas is going to be sold.