[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=38822.msg1050676#msg1050676 date=1265542621]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=38822.msg1050623#msg1050623 date=1265519918]
I see Mark isn't answering the question ... Let's try again - when Kuyt is off form, should he still be undroppable?
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Is there a point in answering it Wiz? We already posted about this recently, no one is untouchable, I just don't see your point re poor form, or at least why you're making such an issue of it. No one is THAT consistent over the course of a season. Ok, so ideally he'd be dropped when in poor form, the problem is that he's still capable of scoring crucial goals when in poor form, so what do you do? Only the Gerrard's and Torres' are reliable across a whole season to the degree that you're implying and even they suffer peaks and troughs.
Should he be dropped when not playing well? He should certainly now be pressured by the likes of Maxi. I just feel that he's not only being grossly underrated and undervalued by alot of posters who should probably know better, people are also exaggerating this 'poor form' issue and aren't really living in the real football World where players don't put in miraculous performances consistently over 50 odd games.
His record and his determination and passion for the club speaks for itself. He's a top, top player.
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did you read my post? kuyt is a player with determination and heart and is a reguar goal scorer but I sometimes wonder if the team would be better served with someone that worked less but worked better and is more effective at hurting teams, and someone who isn't as prone to losses of form. last and season and this season when we are at our lowest, where was kuyt?
kuyt is a player that excells when liverpool excells and slumps when liverpool slumps this is fair enough as form comes and goes but he plays week in and week out regardless. what I find utterly utterly infuriating about rafa is he refuses to give other a run, I'm not talking a fucking bit part here and there, I'm talking a run of games. that really is what sets fergie apart from rafa, if you aren't delivering the goods you are fucking out of the team no matter WHO you are, the mentality of the entire squad is on edge because if you aren't performing you're out. half the sqaud are chomping at the bit to get into the team and the other half are under pressure to maintain their form otherwise they know they are out. one half of our squad knows no matter what they do they wont get a run and the other half knows no matter what they do they wont be dropped and frankly it costs us points.
kuyt was stinking the fucking place out earlier in the season, chasing his own fucking tail and delievering next to fuck all but he was still picked as we were losing points hand over fist giving someone else a go may have turned some draws into wins and some loses into draws, the exact same thing happened last year. you know, I could at least UNDERSTAND it if he were a rooney, a torres, basically someone who in the blink of an eye can change the entire complexion but he isn't. dirk is a hard working, honest, tidy player who will never hide with an eye for goal and that's fine but let's not make him out to be a great player, he isn't.
