Would have been pretty decent 10-15 years ago. Would have been world class in the 1980s.
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Would have been pretty decent 10-15 years ago. Would have been world class in the 1980s.
It's not just the England managers fault. You can't fault the dull as fuck 4-5-1 tactics which Hodgson enforced, but you can't blame him for Wiltshire, Lampard, Walcott and Lambert not being able to control and pass a football.
Tonight was shite and embarrassing. and more than one person is to blame.
Tonight was shite and embarrassing. and more than one person is to blame.
Haha - old Roy up to his old tricks after the game blabbering on about what a great performance it was to go to a place like Ukraine and take a point.
The old sod will be sacked as soon as England get dumped out - whenever that is.
Anyone that actually thinks England could win the World Cup under hodge-podge is beyond deluded
The old sod will be sacked as soon as England get dumped out - whenever that is.
Anyone that actually thinks England could win the World Cup under hodge-podge is beyond deluded
England look nearly as bad under Hodgson as they did under that genius Capello.
And apologies to the N Ireland lads, but that result is fucking hilarious and needs to be laughed at.
And apologies to the N Ireland lads, but that result is fucking hilarious and needs to be laughed at.
I don't remember anyone, anywhere, saying they could. That's just a myth the rest of the World uses to put us down, for getting behind our side. We know where we're at and why there are teams like Brazil, Spain, Italy, Germany, Portugal and a dozen others are ahead of us, I said as much earlier in Oncy's Hodgson thread and raised a few points about what Hodge HAS done and how shite the hierarchy are with their "6 year plan" - quelle surprise no one bothered responding as it didn't go with the standard "England are garbage and Hodgson is a dithering old fool" view.
Anyway as said, there's more than one person to blame why players consistently fail to turn up for England. Especially of the old guard, there only ever seems to be Gerrard who gets anywhere near his club form. And that's been going on for DECADES, not since Hodgson took over.
That moment at the end with Walcott breaking and carrying the ball 50 yards at speed, to then pass it straight to their player with two of our lads in support, pretty much summed up how much he hasn't progressed as a player, and how poor he is (and others are) at International level.
Hodge's aspirations may be shite, he might be a boring defeatist, but at least he's had the balls to drop Ferdinand and not feel he has to play players like Terry, people also fail to mention the fact that we had a fair few injuries too, despite the strength in depth, I'm sure Sturridge and a few others would have given us a different edge and he's taken a fair amount of young players who are coming through and gambled on a few lads most would deem unfashionable, like Jagielka, Lambert, Osman etc. He broke up the continuously poor pairing at the back that's been unjustifiably guaranteed a start for a decade. He's got more from Gerrard and Lampard as a partnership than I remember anyone else doing.
He'll be gone soon enough so it doesn't matter, and then you guys can take the piss out of whoever gets the hotseat next, because they'll be shite too, because we're not good enough, but hey, that's just me, apparently most of us think we'll win something, somewhere.
The lack is any depth in England's attack is worrying, beyond Rooney and studge, the rest are poor. Sadly for Lambert, the second half showed his limitations.
He got zero support though, sticking a centre forward up there away from home isn't new, Rafa did it too, as did Mourinho, but you've got to support him and get close to him and play off him. It's no good sticking a centre forward on the half way line, when Theo Walcott is hiding next to the right back and when he does get the chance to stretch his legs on the break, he does absolutely fuck all with it.
He isn't International level, Lambert, but he wasn't the only culprit yesterday and was isolated for the most part.
Agree.
Alaba's our only player who's not useless.
Anyone who watched the game has to understand now why I was against the idea of signing Weimann.
And why Arnautovic is shite and pissing his obvious talent away. Stoke will regret their decision to sign him.
I still fancy us to beat Sweden for a second time though. And then to piss the 2nd spot away on Faroe Islands. Which wouldn't be too bad because this team has absolutely no right to go to Brazil.
Our highlight has to be Sochi 2014 and not Brazil 2014.
We need some exotic talent!!!
From what I saw, Cahill is becoming a competent international CB.
You know what they say, people who laugh at others are just distracting people from their own shortcomings.
Its the same old tired boring "you lot think you'll win the world cup? hahahaha" brigade who laugh at England cos their own international team's are actually worse than England.
Now considering how poor we can be what level do the other lot have to sink to, to be worse than us? Its funny cos in 1978, the Scots and their manager were banging on about how they were going to win the world cup and they couldn't even beat fucking Iran!
I've not heard a serious, sane Englishman suggest that England can win the world cup under this regime or this system. The QF's of a major tournament are probably our limit and should be considered a good result. Our glorious media of course will slag us off, build us up before a tournament and then release some bad news story on the eve of the tournament to try and destroy morale and then when we "fail" in their eyes, hunt down the scapegoats. Rinse, repeat cycle every two years.
Interestingly, and I didn't know this before i heard it last night, England have lost one qualifier out of the last 25. Not totally shite then.
I don't really think the Gerrard/Lampard thing is down to Hodgson. They can now play together reasonably well because Stevie naturally plays deeper these days, so the two of them dovetail better on the pitch than they did before, when they cramped each other's style and Lampard was never anywhere near as good as Stevie when it was his turn to drop back.
The Japanese can play football...
Any talent would do. Lambert, walker, Milner and so on are not good enough.
U.S. officially qualified for Brazil with the win last night over Mexico and the other result playing out the way it did in CONCACAF.
That was probably one of the worst Mexico teams in recent history! Bar 10 minutes, the Yanks were all over them (and 2-0 was ... a very kind scoreline)
I wonder if they'll ever do a "Americas" qualification group?
I agree on Mexico, they are woeful at the moment. They were decent to start the match but have no end product even with Chicharito. I have to say though, even though I can't stand El Tri I hope they still qualify for Brazil. It would be strange to have a World Cup without Mexico especially in South America.
They have to win all their games to do so, right?
Highly unlikely ... They seem to be lacking leadership on the pitch and they need a 'Roy keane' like figure in midfield.
Haha - don't think they needed any help, they have a mightily impressive squad.
They'll get in, worse case they are looking at finishing fourth and going into a payoff with mighty New Zealand, who they should be able to get past.
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