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That’s what I thought about David Silva.
Me too.
And Ferguson needed 6 years ergo all managers need time.
You made a specific observation and was countered with Silva. The Ferguson thing would actually make sense if you compared his qualities to someone with similar qualities and stated they needed the same amount of time to succeed.
I'm very undecided. His style of play looks like it has been jig-sawed to fit our team, but does he have the work ethic, the selflessness that we require? Will he get more consistent at scoring in Klopp's system? Both Mane and Salah (spectacularly) have done so....
It doesn’t make sense if you’re being deliberately obtuse, I agree.
Sure, if I knew that’s what you were doing, I wouldn’t have commented.
Yeah, it's quite strange how few top class Italian footballers ever leave Italy, and those that do seem to fail.
Zola and Di Canio are obvious exceptions, but we've had nothing but disasters with ours: Balotelli, Aquilani, Borini, Dossena.......urghhhhhh no.
And even if some are very clearly not "top class", the list of Italian flops includes Taibi, Maccarone, Grabbi, Ambrosetti, Casiraghi....no no no.
Klopp's also been burned, with the disastrous Immobile at Dortmund.
It's like people have completely forgotten the last small light weak looking, skilful player full of tricks but not much end product that we signed.
To jog your memories we bought him for 8.5m and sold him for 125m.
Sign this boy up
To jog your memories we bought him for 8.5m and sold him for 125m.
Sign this boy up
To jog your memory, Inisgne is 27 and would cost £50m, which makes it unlikely we'd recoup any of that where he to stay at the club 4 years like Coutinho did, given he'd be over 30 by then.
So, yeah, fucking awesome BrainWork once again Dreamy, you fucking dolt.
The point was people think he is too light and weak for England because he comes from the Italian league.
Which is rubbish.
If that was your point, I would suggest not obfuscating it with details about how much profit we made on him
Actually, what is your point?
Some "small light weak looking, skilful player full of tricks but not much end product" are good and play well in the Premier league?
Wow, well given you've done all that research, consider me sold!
Did you factor in some that don't?
What about Italian players who are fucking shite in any other league?
Some "small light weak looking, skilful player full of tricks but not much end product" are good and play well in the Premier league?
Wow, well given you've done all that research, consider me sold!
Did you factor in some that don't?
What about Italian players who are fucking shite in any other league?
...but that he's Italian, that we have an unbroken history lasting more than a decade of failed Italian signings and that players like Zola are very much the exception as opposed to the rule in English football overall, yes.
Yeah yeah, but: COUTINHO
Not Italian, and a player with a successful history of moving countries as well as clubs before we went in for him.
The problem with that is that the majority of other clubs who've been down this road have come up with exactly the same outcome. One or two notable exceptions don't change the fact, and it is a fact, that the odds are very clearly against the successful transfer of Italian players to English football.
They don't really travel well anywhere (or stay long), the few that actually leave Italy anyway.
Most just stay put, so that they're not too far from Mamma's bellissimo ragu
Coutinho is 5 feet 8 inches whereas Insigne is 5 feet 4 inches. Coutinho is 30 pounds heavier than Insigne. Coutinho came here when he was young and had time to adjust to the league and build up muuscle. Insigne is 27 (a year older than Coutinho). He will cost a lot and we cannot afford to give him time to adjust to the league.
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