It's genuinely a bizarre experience debating with you and leftpeg. You're both just completely invulnerable to reason.
How much did we buy him for?
So it's guesswork.I've written in detail before how one can trace the difference between the two approaches.
How do you know who the 'transfer committee' players are? Seriously this gets trotted out all of the time but how do you guys know who the transfer committee signings are and who the Rodgers signings are? Is it just guesswork or do you actually have inside knowledge?
OK, let's put it another way. Which of these players we have signed since Rodgers arrived is a 1st team regular (the ones in red have been sold) :
Simon Mignolet (£9m)
Philippe Coutinho (£8.5m)
Daniel Sturridge (£12m)
Joe Allen (£15m)
Fabio Borini (£11m)
Luis Alberto (£6m)
Thiago Ilori (£7m)
Iago Aspas (£5m)
Oussama Assaidi (£2.5m)
Nuri Şahin (loan)
Samed Yesil (£1m)
Kolo Toure (free)
Aly Cissokho (loan)
Victor Moses (loan)
Adam Lallana (£25m)
Dejan Lovren (£20m)
Rickie Lambert (£3m)
Nathaniel Clyne (£12m)
Christian Benteke (£32.5m)
James Milner (Free)
Mamadou Sakho (£18m)
Lazar Markovic (£20m)
Mario Balotelli (£16m)
Alberto Moreno (£12m)
Javier Manquillo (Loan)
Divock Origi (£10m)
Firmino (£21m - £29m)
Emre Can (£10m)
Joe Gomez (£3.5m)
Alex Bogdan (Free)
Danny Ings (TBD)
Of that lot, only Coutinho so far as I can tell has been signed from abroad and is a permanent fixture. All the other foreign-based players have been moved on or are on the fringes, probably the next ones to be dumped, or just signed. Is there a trend here?
We just don't seem capable of bringing in players from abroad who make an impression or can develop into 1st teamers. After a while, you may surmise that the manager has a little share of the responsibility for this failing - not only is he the last word on signings, by his own admission, he is also the sole decision-maker on selection.
The list is frightening actually, no wonder we are so fucking ordinary.
So it's guesswork.
That's a fucking brilliant post.No. It's a case built using facts and logic. I say built but that overstates the effort I made in coming to it. My brain was able to process the various data pretty much instantly.
I'm baffled that I have to explain if to anyone. I think they must either be very thick or very dishonest.
No doubt about that.Whether it's Rodgers, Comiteh or FSG it's ineptitude of the highest order.
Rodgers is often feted as a developer of young players but he's not really is he. Buys them then discards them pretty quickly.
I suspect he wont even get to play for the reserveI wonder if he'll get a run out in the Aston Villa Reserves.
At the moment they only have the option to buy him after a loan spell. If he does well enough then i'm sure we'll take him back with open arms and cancel their option. Is that allowed?
At the moment they only have the option to buy him after a loan spell. If he does well enough then i'm sure we'll take him back with open arms and cancel their option. Is that allowed?
I wonder if this is something he learned under maureen seeing as he appears to be a 5th Dan black belt in the art of moving people on .Rodgers is often feted as a developer of young players but he's not really is he. Buys them then discards them pretty quickly.
Regardless of anything else Illori has to agree to the move too. If he has a blinder of a season we just 'guarantee' him game time for the next season and he turns them down. Job's a good 'un.
At the moment they only have the option to buy him after a loan spell. If he does well enough then i'm sure we'll take him back with open arms and cancel their option. Is that allowed?
I think it's more like having first option, or first refusal if you like, in the event of the player being for sale.