I hate to say it, but....
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Not for the first time: poor the whaddapie
Winning becomes a habit but we look like a team who have simply forgotten how to win a game. When we went 1-0 up, there didn't seem to be the belief we could go on and kill them off. We need to scrape an ugly win anyway we can in the next game, just to give us something to build on, so we can gradually start to build up some confidence and eventually a bit of swagger (at home anyway).
I fear it's going to be a long road and I certainly have my doubts whether Roy is the man to get us there, a team should be a mirror of the manager, at our best under Rafa we were a ruthless, organised and tactically spot on team who mostb importantly knew how win games anywhere we went (Benabeau, Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge).
The next few games will show whether Roy is transmitting his ideas to the players, because at the moment he hasn't stamped his mark on the team, they look lost.
Next 5 games and we'll see where we are....
I fear it's going to be a long road and I certainly have my doubts whether Roy is the man to get us there, a team should be a mirror of the manager, at our best under Rafa we were a ruthless, organised and tactically spot on team who mostb importantly knew how win games anywhere we went (Benabeau, Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge).
The next few games will show whether Roy is transmitting his ideas to the players, because at the moment he hasn't stamped his mark on the team, they look lost.
Next 5 games and we'll see where we are....
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=42039.msg1182636#msg1182636 date=1285443853]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42039.msg1182631#msg1182631 date=1285443675]
Only 10?
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I was being kind. After all whadd would give millions to charity if he could.
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hahahaha
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42039.msg1182631#msg1182631 date=1285443675]
Only 10?
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I was being kind. After all whadd would give millions to charity if he could.
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hahahaha
[quote author=Khalido link=topic=42039.msg1182642#msg1182642 date=1285444108]
Winning becomes a habit but we look like a team who have simply forgotten how to win a game. When we went 1-0 up, there didn't seem to be the belief we could go on and kill them off. We need to scrape an ugly win anyway we can in the next game, just to give us something to build on, so we can gradually start to build up some confidence and eventually a bit of swagger (at home anyway).
I fear it's going to be a long road and I certainly have my doubts whether Roy is the man to get us there, a team should be a mirror of the manager, at our best under Rafa we were a ruthless, organised and tactically spot on team who mostb importantly knew how win games anywhere we went (Benabeau, Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge).
The next few games will show whether Roy is transmitting his ideas to the players, because at the moment he hasn't stamped his mark on the team, they look lost.
Next 5 games and we'll see where we are....
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And how about our worst under the Fat Waster?
Clueless, tactless, toothless, 8 defensive midfielders, Crouch on the wing.....and Lucas.
Winning becomes a habit but we look like a team who have simply forgotten how to win a game. When we went 1-0 up, there didn't seem to be the belief we could go on and kill them off. We need to scrape an ugly win anyway we can in the next game, just to give us something to build on, so we can gradually start to build up some confidence and eventually a bit of swagger (at home anyway).
I fear it's going to be a long road and I certainly have my doubts whether Roy is the man to get us there, a team should be a mirror of the manager, at our best under Rafa we were a ruthless, organised and tactically spot on team who mostb importantly knew how win games anywhere we went (Benabeau, Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge).
The next few games will show whether Roy is transmitting his ideas to the players, because at the moment he hasn't stamped his mark on the team, they look lost.
Next 5 games and we'll see where we are....
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And how about our worst under the Fat Waster?
Clueless, tactless, toothless, 8 defensive midfielders, Crouch on the wing.....and Lucas.
And two European finals, one European Cup, and FA cup and regular entry into the Champions League
Poor the dimwitted terrier
Poor the dimwitted terrier
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=42039.msg1182656#msg1182656 date=1285444743]
You sound a bit like Asbo, Bren.
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Yah, much like Dreamy drove me crazy last year (& this year too with this ubber positive shit), Brendan has become as annoying with his defense of a manager he told to FUCK OFF after two seasons ... Sheesh, at least he's happy as yet again, we are all privy to him being right yet again about Liverpool.
You sound a bit like Asbo, Bren.
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Yah, much like Dreamy drove me crazy last year (& this year too with this ubber positive shit), Brendan has become as annoying with his defense of a manager he told to FUCK OFF after two seasons ... Sheesh, at least he's happy as yet again, we are all privy to him being right yet again about Liverpool.
if we played anyway decent, i'd hold off. If he was a motivator, I'd hold off. If he had a track record of winning, I'd hold off.
But he doesn't - Sheik makes good points, but the manager is showing NOTHING of potential on the field.
We can't afford to finish outside the top 4, and it's NOT going to happen with this man.
We all know this. Why deny it.
We've got to go with Kenny or some AMAZING rabbit out of a hat. MON is not the man.
But he doesn't - Sheik makes good points, but the manager is showing NOTHING of potential on the field.
We can't afford to finish outside the top 4, and it's NOT going to happen with this man.
We all know this. Why deny it.
We've got to go with Kenny or some AMAZING rabbit out of a hat. MON is not the man.
'Brendung'
Jesus, you are fucking amazingly embarrassing
Jesus, you are fucking amazingly embarrassing
Oh dear, oh dear oh dear
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=42039.msg1182647#msg1182647 date=1285444469]
[quote author=Khalido link=topic=42039.msg1182642#msg1182642 date=1285444108]
Winning becomes a habit but we look like a team who have simply forgotten how to win a game. When we went 1-0 up, there didn't seem to be the belief we could go on and kill them off. We need to scrape an ugly win anyway we can in the next game, just to give us something to build on, so we can gradually start to build up some confidence and eventually a bit of swagger (at home anyway).
I fear it's going to be a long road and I certainly have my doubts whether Roy is the man to get us there, a team should be a mirror of the manager, at our best under Rafa we were a ruthless, organised and tactically spot on team who mostb importantly knew how win games anywhere we went (Benabeau, Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge).
The next few games will show whether Roy is transmitting his ideas to the players, because at the moment he hasn't stamped his mark on the team, they look lost.
Next 5 games and we'll see where we are....
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And how about our worst under the Fat Waster?
Clueless, tactless, toothless, 8 defensive midfielders, Crouch on the wing.....and Lucas.
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Rafa at his worst was terrible, and he had to go, but we knew what he could do at his best. My fear is, will Roy's best be anything more than mediocre. Nothing he has done in his career has suggested he can rise above that level. My hope when he was appointed was that he would see this as his final big chance in charge of a truly big team, and somehow he would rise to the challenge and shows us he could become a great manager.
He looks like a journeyman manager at the moment.
[quote author=Khalido link=topic=42039.msg1182642#msg1182642 date=1285444108]
Winning becomes a habit but we look like a team who have simply forgotten how to win a game. When we went 1-0 up, there didn't seem to be the belief we could go on and kill them off. We need to scrape an ugly win anyway we can in the next game, just to give us something to build on, so we can gradually start to build up some confidence and eventually a bit of swagger (at home anyway).
I fear it's going to be a long road and I certainly have my doubts whether Roy is the man to get us there, a team should be a mirror of the manager, at our best under Rafa we were a ruthless, organised and tactically spot on team who mostb importantly knew how win games anywhere we went (Benabeau, Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge).
The next few games will show whether Roy is transmitting his ideas to the players, because at the moment he hasn't stamped his mark on the team, they look lost.
Next 5 games and we'll see where we are....
[/quote]
And how about our worst under the Fat Waster?
Clueless, tactless, toothless, 8 defensive midfielders, Crouch on the wing.....and Lucas.
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Rafa at his worst was terrible, and he had to go, but we knew what he could do at his best. My fear is, will Roy's best be anything more than mediocre. Nothing he has done in his career has suggested he can rise above that level. My hope when he was appointed was that he would see this as his final big chance in charge of a truly big team, and somehow he would rise to the challenge and shows us he could become a great manager.
He looks like a journeyman manager at the moment.
ok terrier and brendan, please stop. ta.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42039.msg1182666#msg1182666 date=1285445081]
'Brendung'
Jesus, you are fucking amazingly embarrassing
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Brendan, you were making some brilliant posts there for a long time, but now you're getting into fights again everywhere...come back from the dark side..
'Brendung'
Jesus, you are fucking amazingly embarrassing
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Brendan, you were making some brilliant posts there for a long time, but now you're getting into fights again everywhere...come back from the dark side..
[quote author=Khalido link=topic=42039.msg1182671#msg1182671 date=1285445200]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=42039.msg1182647#msg1182647 date=1285444469]
[quote author=Khalido link=topic=42039.msg1182642#msg1182642 date=1285444108]
Winning becomes a habit but we look like a team who have simply forgotten how to win a game. When we went 1-0 up, there didn't seem to be the belief we could go on and kill them off. We need to scrape an ugly win anyway we can in the next game, just to give us something to build on, so we can gradually start to build up some confidence and eventually a bit of swagger (at home anyway).
I fear it's going to be a long road and I certainly have my doubts whether Roy is the man to get us there, a team should be a mirror of the manager, at our best under Rafa we were a ruthless, organised and tactically spot on team who mostb importantly knew how win games anywhere we went (Benabeau, Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge).
The next few games will show whether Roy is transmitting his ideas to the players, because at the moment he hasn't stamped his mark on the team, they look lost.
Next 5 games and we'll see where we are....
[/quote]
And how about our worst under the Fat Waster?
Clueless, tactless, toothless, 8 defensive midfielders, Crouch on the wing.....and Lucas.
[/quote]
Rafa at his worst was terrible, and he had to go, but we knew what he could do at his best. My fear is, will Roy's best be anything more than mediocre. Nothing he has done in his career has suggested he can rise above that level. My hope when he was appointed was that he would see this as his final big chance in charge of a truly big team, and somehow he would rise to the challenge and shows us he could become a great manager.
He looks like a journeyman manager at the moment.
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Absolutely, many suggested he just hadn't been given a shot at proving himself.
Most, however also realized that was because he wasn't good enough.
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=42039.msg1182647#msg1182647 date=1285444469]
[quote author=Khalido link=topic=42039.msg1182642#msg1182642 date=1285444108]
Winning becomes a habit but we look like a team who have simply forgotten how to win a game. When we went 1-0 up, there didn't seem to be the belief we could go on and kill them off. We need to scrape an ugly win anyway we can in the next game, just to give us something to build on, so we can gradually start to build up some confidence and eventually a bit of swagger (at home anyway).
I fear it's going to be a long road and I certainly have my doubts whether Roy is the man to get us there, a team should be a mirror of the manager, at our best under Rafa we were a ruthless, organised and tactically spot on team who mostb importantly knew how win games anywhere we went (Benabeau, Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge).
The next few games will show whether Roy is transmitting his ideas to the players, because at the moment he hasn't stamped his mark on the team, they look lost.
Next 5 games and we'll see where we are....
[/quote]
And how about our worst under the Fat Waster?
Clueless, tactless, toothless, 8 defensive midfielders, Crouch on the wing.....and Lucas.
[/quote]
Rafa at his worst was terrible, and he had to go, but we knew what he could do at his best. My fear is, will Roy's best be anything more than mediocre. Nothing he has done in his career has suggested he can rise above that level. My hope when he was appointed was that he would see this as his final big chance in charge of a truly big team, and somehow he would rise to the challenge and shows us he could become a great manager.
He looks like a journeyman manager at the moment.
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Absolutely, many suggested he just hadn't been given a shot at proving himself.
Most, however also realized that was because he wasn't good enough.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42039.msg1182653#msg1182653 date=1285444668]
And two European finals, one European Cup, and FA cup and regular entry into the Champions League
Poor the dimwitted terrier
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You forgot the Super Cup, final in the World Club Cup, final in the Tin Pot cup. 2nd in the Premiership.
And two European finals, one European Cup, and FA cup and regular entry into the Champions League
Poor the dimwitted terrier
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You forgot the Super Cup, final in the World Club Cup, final in the Tin Pot cup. 2nd in the Premiership.
[quote author=Red Mullet link=topic=42039.msg1182686#msg1182686 date=1285445524]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42039.msg1182653#msg1182653 date=1285444668]
And two European finals, one European Cup, and FA cup and regular entry into the Champions League
Poor the dimwitted terrier
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You forgot the Super Cup, final in the World Club Cup, final in the Tin Pot cup. 2nd in the Premiership.
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and you forgot the record 8-0 trouncing we dished out in the CL 😛
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42039.msg1182653#msg1182653 date=1285444668]
And two European finals, one European Cup, and FA cup and regular entry into the Champions League
Poor the dimwitted terrier
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You forgot the Super Cup, final in the World Club Cup, final in the Tin Pot cup. 2nd in the Premiership.
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and you forgot the record 8-0 trouncing we dished out in the CL 😛
The Dark Side?
Terrier is a dreadful poster, as any fule kno.
He tries very hard to be a bit like me, but it's like reading someone with a fucking lobotomy and a tiny vocabulary reciting Shakespeare
Terrier is a dreadful poster, as any fule kno.
He tries very hard to be a bit like me, but it's like reading someone with a fucking lobotomy and a tiny vocabulary reciting Shakespeare
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=42039.msg1182688#msg1182688 date=1285445617]
[quote author=Red Mullet link=topic=42039.msg1182686#msg1182686 date=1285445524]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42039.msg1182653#msg1182653 date=1285444668]
And two European finals, one European Cup, and FA cup and regular entry into the Champions League
Poor the dimwitted terrier
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You forgot the Super Cup, final in the World Club Cup, final in the Tin Pot cup. 2nd in the Premiership.
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and you forgot the record 8-0 trouncing we dished out in the CL 😛
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And the consecutive thrashing of Real Madrid and Man Utd with a scoreline of 4-0 and 4-1 respectively. There was also a community shield against Chelsea....
Man was talented. The man we got now, aian't so ....
[quote author=Red Mullet link=topic=42039.msg1182686#msg1182686 date=1285445524]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=42039.msg1182653#msg1182653 date=1285444668]
And two European finals, one European Cup, and FA cup and regular entry into the Champions League
Poor the dimwitted terrier
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You forgot the Super Cup, final in the World Club Cup, final in the Tin Pot cup. 2nd in the Premiership.
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and you forgot the record 8-0 trouncing we dished out in the CL 😛
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And the consecutive thrashing of Real Madrid and Man Utd with a scoreline of 4-0 and 4-1 respectively. There was also a community shield against Chelsea....
Man was talented. The man we got now, aian't so ....
But we'll still get fourth 😉
I cant wait to tell my Grandkids how we beat someone 8-0, qualified for the CL every season for 5 years, and beat a couple of good teams 4-0 and 4-1...........
Now recounting Istanbul is something I will look forward to, and I hope I get the chance to talk about championship winning teams too. But most of what is written above will be forgotten within the next generation.
Now recounting Istanbul is something I will look forward to, and I hope I get the chance to talk about championship winning teams too. But most of what is written above will be forgotten within the next generation.
I know Brendan, but one slagging off should be enough to make the point!
On Hodgson, I still think we forgot we're LFC, because we missed the CL place, and because of the financial shite. So we accepted a mid table manager and the lower standards. I never agreed with the premise which was "Look at the mess we're in, who else could we get". The fella hasn't lost the dressing room, because he never had it.
The players like feel bad for him, and that's not good enough. They need to be afraid of him, and that's not going to happen.
Benitez had many faults, but we all felt "this is Anfield" for most of his reign. We need a manager that brings that back.
PS: I love the fact other managers hated Rafa. Shows he was a competitive son of a b. I don't want a manager who other managers love!
On Hodgson, I still think we forgot we're LFC, because we missed the CL place, and because of the financial shite. So we accepted a mid table manager and the lower standards. I never agreed with the premise which was "Look at the mess we're in, who else could we get". The fella hasn't lost the dressing room, because he never had it.
The players like feel bad for him, and that's not good enough. They need to be afraid of him, and that's not going to happen.
Benitez had many faults, but we all felt "this is Anfield" for most of his reign. We need a manager that brings that back.
PS: I love the fact other managers hated Rafa. Shows he was a competitive son of a b. I don't want a manager who other managers love!
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=42039.msg1182710#msg1182710 date=1285446664]
Is that guaranteed?
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Apparently, some fatty said that, got it wrong and got fired. I'm not making that mistake.
Is that guaranteed?
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Apparently, some fatty said that, got it wrong and got fired. I'm not making that mistake.
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