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How badly we need another striker

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Dreambeliever

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Barclays Premier League Top Scorers
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Rooney Man Utd 26
Drogba Chelsea 24
Bent Sunderland 20
Torres Liverpool 18
Defoe Tottenham 17
Lampard Chelsea 17
Tevez Man City 16
Fabregas Arsenal 15
Saha Everton 13
Berbatov Man Utd 12
Agbonlahor Aston Villa 11
Malouda Chelsea 11
Adebayor Man City 9
Arshavin Arsenal 9
Cole West Ham 9

All the big boys have at least 2 in there except us.
 
[quote author=ZhaoYun link=topic=39535.msg1077824#msg1077824 date=1269830069]
I think the idea is to have two goal-scorers, regardless of position.
[/quote]

I agree but we don't have 2 this year.
 
[quote author=El Nino link=topic=39535.msg1077830#msg1077830 date=1269832004]
Torres is at his best when playing up front on his own.
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That does not justify having N'gog as back up striker.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39535.msg1077832#msg1077832 date=1269832498]
[quote author=El Nino link=topic=39535.msg1077830#msg1077830 date=1269832004]
Torres is at his best when playing up front on his own.
[/quote]

That does not justify having N'gog as back up striker.
[/quote]

It doesn't. We do need a quality back up striker. But there's no way I would rather see Torres playing with a partner than as lone striker.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39535.msg1077829#msg1077829 date=1269831630]
How many have Kuyt and Gerrard got?
[/quote]

kuyt - 9 league goals
gerrard - 6 league goals

gerrard's injuries and loss of form have hit us hard.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39535.msg1077832#msg1077832 date=1269832498]
[quote author=El Nino link=topic=39535.msg1077830#msg1077830 date=1269832004]
Torres is at his best when playing up front on his own.
[/quote]

That does not justify having N'gog as back up striker.
[/quote]

but it does make it harder to recruit a striker if he is worried about how much time he will get on the pitch (with gerrard and torres taking the forward positions), they are worrying over nothing if you ask me given torres' injury record
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39535.msg1077857#msg1077857 date=1269844875]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39535.msg1077829#msg1077829 date=1269831630]
How many have Kuyt and Gerrard got?
[/quote]

kuyt - 9 league goals
gerrard - 6 league goals

gerrard's injuries and loss of form have hit us hard.
[/quote]

How many of those 6 are pens?
 
[quote author=Ossi link=topic=39535.msg1077869#msg1077869 date=1269847504]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39535.msg1077857#msg1077857 date=1269844875]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39535.msg1077829#msg1077829 date=1269831630]
How many have Kuyt and Gerrard got?
[/quote]

kuyt - 9 league goals
gerrard - 6 league goals

gerrard's injuries and loss of form have hit us hard.
[/quote]


How many of those 6 are pens?
[/quote]


2

gerrard's return is pretty poor for the position he plays but he has been injuried, a lot.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39535.msg1077857#msg1077857 date=1269844875]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39535.msg1077829#msg1077829 date=1269831630]
How many have Kuyt and Gerrard got?
[/quote]

kuyt - 9 league goals
gerrard - 6 league goals

gerrard's injuries and loss of form have hit us hard.
[/quote]


so if kuyt's got 9 goals then we do, in actual fact, have 2 players on that top scorers list, don't we?

still, not disputing that we need more goalscorers - malouda with 11 stands out as the sort of contribution we could do with from the left, although not sure how often he's played more centrally this season.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39535.msg1077866#msg1077866 date=1269847386]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39535.msg1077832#msg1077832 date=1269832498]
[quote author=El Nino link=topic=39535.msg1077830#msg1077830 date=1269832004]
Torres is at his best when playing up front on his own.
[/quote]

That does not justify having N'gog as back up striker.
[/quote]

but it does make it harder to recruit a striker if he is worried about how much time he will get on the pitch (with gerrard and torres taking the forward positions), they are worrying over nothing if you ask me given torres' injury record
[/quote]

United kept Rooney, Ronaldo Berbatov and Tevez content, at least until Tevez went a bit mental. If we had signed a decent striker 2 years ago, he would have played more than Fernando Torres has for us in the same time. Then there is always the possibility of convincing the boss to play 4-4-2.

The probems are/have been Benitez is pretty shit at squad management and he's pissed away money on Keane and Dossena, leaving him with no funds left to work with.

However, financial implications aside, a club of our size should have no problem recruiting a decent standard of striker.
 
[quote author=ZhaoYun link=topic=39535.msg1077824#msg1077824 date=1269830069]
I think the idea is to have two goal-scorers, regardless of position.
[/quote]

Not according to the thread title
 
[quote author=El Nino link=topic=39535.msg1077830#msg1077830 date=1269832004]
Torres is at his best when playing up front on his own.
[/quote]
I don't necessarily buy that.
If he played up front with a Tevez or Rooney the team, and I believe Torres would benefit terrifically, it would have been carnage yesterday. It would take loads of pressure off him and he would get less of the kickings that he does now.
If we had another decent striker we would certainly not be in the position we are now.


regards
 
It would also allow Gerrard to attack from deep, which he did brilliantly yesterday.
 
Regardless of tactical considerations we need another quality striker simply because Torres is injury prone. Darren Bent would fit the bill if we could afford it.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=39535.msg1077898#msg1077898 date=1269851627]
It would also allow Gerrard to attack from deep, which he did brilliantly yesterday.


[/quote]

I still think his best position is a forward and the stats back me up in that regard.
if and when rafa buys a brilliant CF I would keep gerrard there.
 
[quote author=El Nino link=topic=39535.msg1077830#msg1077830 date=1269832004]
Torres is at his best when playing up front on his own.
[/quote]

Based on? He's always looked ok alongside Villa, the only thing is Torres needs to lead the line.
 
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=39535.msg1077992#msg1077992 date=1269861844]
Are we not getting a striker from Standard? Is he any better than Voronin?


[/quote]

He couldn't be any worse.
 
[quote author=El Nino link=topic=39535.msg1077830#msg1077830 date=1269832004]
Torres is at his best when playing up front on his own.
[/quote]

Or with David Villa!!
 
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=39535.msg1077971#msg1077971 date=1269860032]
[quote author=El Nino link=topic=39535.msg1077830#msg1077830 date=1269832004]
Torres is at his best when playing up front on his own.
[/quote]

Based on? He's always looked ok alongside Villa, the only thing is Torres needs to lead the line.
[/quote]

I'm not disagreeing with Torres not being able to play with a fellow striker, of course he could. But there was an obvious improvement in his game when Villa was injured/suspended. Prior to netting the winning goal in the final, it's fair to say he had a pretty average championship.

I haven't seen much of Spain since.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39535.msg1078000#msg1078000 date=1269862424]
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=39535.msg1077992#msg1077992 date=1269861844]
Are we not getting a striker from Standard? Is he any better than Voronin?


[/quote]

He couldn't be any worse.
[/quote]

Sad, but true!

We have made a lot of dud signings. We would be challenging for the title if we had just used up the chances wasted on these duds to develop some young player to play that squad role at he very least.
 
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