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Henderson is a good squad player, but we need better than him in the first 11 if we want to do well next season. Either that or he starts imposing himself in games more and dominating in midfield.

coutinho is just brilliant. Once he gets stronger and used to the premiership he'll be even better which is scary.
 
Henderson could become our Lampard. Broken down into individual attributes he's very unassuming. However, his talent suggests that he is greater than the sum of his parts and has an eye for a goal.
 
Henderson is a good squad player, but we need better than him in the first 11 if we want to do well next season. Either that or he starts imposing himself in games more and dominating in midfield.

coutinho is just brilliant. Once he gets stronger and used to the premiership he'll be even better which is scary.

"the first 11"
 
The first 11 does my head in. You could probably say City has the best first 11 and Utd the best squad.
Look who won.
 
The first 11 does my head in. You could probably say City has the best first 11 and Utd the best squad.
Look who won.

Last year City, this year United, maybe it's fair to say they're both as important as each other.
 
Last year City, this year United, maybe it's fair to say they're both as important as each other.
You're right, the best first xi won the league by the narrowest margins last year, and on one occasion only, the best squad pissed the title this year, and for multiple years.

First xi means shit if you've got shit as back up
 
You're right, the best first xi won the league by the narrowest margins last year, and on one occasion only, the best squad pissed the title this year, and for multiple years.

First xi means shit if you've got shit as back up

A good squad means shit if you've got a shit starting 11, it's swings and aroundabouts really.
 
A good squad means shit if you've got a shit starting 11, it's swings and aroundabouts really.

The point is, there's not really any team left that has a defined starting XI. City had three strikers in double figures last season.
Every team uses a whole squad throughout a season.

And anyway, how can you have a good squad, and a shit "starting XI". If you have a shit starting XI, you can't have a good squad.
 
The point is, there's not really any team left that has a defined starting XI. City had three strikers in double figures last season.
Every team uses a whole squad throughout a season.

And anyway, how can you have a good squad, and a shit "starting XI". If you have a shit starting XI, you can't have a good squad.

Ha, could have worded that better. A good squad is worth nothing if you don't have have exceptional players in your starting eleven. I suppose i'm agreeing with the point, you need a good balance, which I guess is what the definition of a good squad is, but you also need exception players who start most games, as you'd be nothing without the likes of Van Persie, Bale or Suarez.
 
Ha, could have worded that better. A good squad is worth nothing if you don't have have exceptional players in your starting eleven. I suppose i'm agreeing with the point, you need a good balance, which I guess is what the definition of a good squad is, but you also need exception players who start most games, as you'd be nothing without the likes of Van Persie, Bale or Suarez.
I still don't get it. Surely if you have a good squad, you'll have a good starting XI?
 
I still don't get it. Surely if you have a good squad, you'll have a good starting XI?

Yes, but you need exceptional players on top of it, what would be classed as definite starters. I read the original post as negating the need for this as long as you have a deep squad, in my opinion you'll always need a couple of outstanding players to win the league, although to be fair, United have done it with only one this season.
 
talk about being pedantic. My point was that you're going to have certain players who will play in the vast majority of your premiership games e.g. suarez, gerrard, reina etc. Hendo IMO shouldn't be one of those players.
 
Yes, but you need exceptional players on top of it, what would be classed as definite starters. I read the original post as negating the need for this as long as you have a deep squad, in my opinion you'll always need a couple of outstanding players to win the league, although to be fair, United have done it with only one this season.
Oh. And there was me assuming that having a few exceptional players in a "deep squad" was a given.

What a plonker.
 
Just goes to show what a difference a year makes though. Last season Tevez was frozen out, Aguero was running the show along with Silva. This season Silva has had problems, Tevez is back in, Aguero has had injuries and Dzeko has again been used far too fleetingly. But it's still the same squad.

Squad's fall apart within a season though, it happens. Attentions change, team spirit declines and squads fragment accordingly.

Whereas United add RVP and he cements the squad together - Carrick has had a brilliant season, as has Ferdinand, De Gea has another season under his belt and Rooney has dropped deeper and has enjoyed not leading the line but playing his more natural role of being a playmaker of sorts. Neither Nani nor Valencia have pulled up trees, but again United with one addition become the sum of their parts - simple, basic stuff, they lacked firepower and sorted it. While City, in trying to instill some continuity, have gone stale and lack the spark a vital signing might have given them and what may yet "ignite" them again.

Just goes to show, for all our squad sums and working out what we need to complete the ever elusive jigsaw and all that bollocks, there are so many variables in football to consider and sometimes, just buying that catalyst is all that it takes.
 
Just goes to show what a difference a year makes though. Last season Tevez was frozen out, Aguero was running the show along with Silva. This season Silva has had problems, Tevez is back in, Aguero has had injuries and Dzeko has again been used far too fleetingly. But it's still the same squad.
Just goes to show, never have a City player in your Fantasy Football team.
 
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