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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178627#msg1178627 date=1285010825]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41962.msg1178618#msg1178618 date=1285010505]
Like who neil?
[/quote]

okay,
the manager of atletico madrid I'm pretty sure would have joined,
pellegrini, I'm pretty sure would have joined
this is obviously speculation but it seems we didn't even approach this managers as roy was the first and only choice. WHY?
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he wasn't the only choice neil, otherwise he would have been appointed immediately and there wouldn't have been a COMMITTEE to decide on the replacement
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41962.msg1178632#msg1178632 date=1285011189]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178627#msg1178627 date=1285010825]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41962.msg1178618#msg1178618 date=1285010505]
Like who neil?
[/quote]

okay,
the manager of atletico madrid I'm pretty sure would have joined,
pellegrini, I'm pretty sure would have joined
this is obviously speculation but it seems we didn't even approach this managers as roy was the first and only choice. WHY?
[/quote]
he wasn't the only choice neil, otherwise he would have been appointed immediately and there wouldn't have been a COMMITTEE to decide on the replacement
[/quote]

I think the delay was the world cup. there was no suggestion of anyone else, even when kenny throw his hat in the ring.
 
Last year was an unmittigated disaster. Three years ago (like 5 of his 6 seasons here), we were out of the running for the league before Christmas. And the year we finished 2nd, we should have won the f#$!ing title, and failed to do so because Rafa played not-to-lose, rtaher than to win it. We lost the league because we were afraid to go and win it.

Hence, his final three years were dissapointing.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178631#msg1178631 date=1285011163]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41962.msg1178629#msg1178629 date=1285010997]

Besides 1 season we did not look like challenging for the , which is the one we want. [/quote]

the people expecting that had unrealistic targets.
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A you don't have unrealistic targets for roy? No money, broken and weak squad. You're right, we should be trying to play utd off the park as our previous manager did every year.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178634#msg1178634 date=1285011270]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41962.msg1178632#msg1178632 date=1285011189]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178627#msg1178627 date=1285010825]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41962.msg1178618#msg1178618 date=1285010505]
Like who neil?
[/quote]

okay,
the manager of atletico madrid I'm pretty sure would have joined,
pellegrini, I'm pretty sure would have joined
this is obviously speculation but it seems we didn't even approach this managers as roy was the first and only choice. WHY?
[/quote]
he wasn't the only choice neil, otherwise he would have been appointed immediately and there wouldn't have been a COMMITTEE to decide on the replacement
[/quote]

I think the delay was the world cup. there was no suggestion of anyone else, even when kenny throw his hat in the ring.
[/quote]

Pelligrini was linked and allegedly approached.
 
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178635#msg1178635 date=1285011347]
Last year was an unmittigated disaster. Three years ago (like 5 of his 6 seasons here), we were out of the running for the league before Christmas. And the year we finished 2nd, we should have won the f#$!ing title, and failed to do so because Rafa played not-to-lose, rtaher than to win it. We lost the league because we were afraid to go and win it.

Hence, his final three years were dissapointing.

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I guess any season where you don't win silverware is disappointing. maybe it was time for rafa to be on (I don't think it was but I digress) but if you ARE going to move him on ffs replace him with someone better or at least COMPARABLE. rafa has shown he could turn things around at a big club, roy has been mediocre at the previous clubs he has managed.
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41962.msg1178636#msg1178636 date=1285011354]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178631#msg1178631 date=1285011163]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41962.msg1178629#msg1178629 date=1285010997]

Besides 1 season we did not look like challenging for the , which is the one we want. [/quote]

the people expecting that had unrealistic targets.
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A you don't have unrealistic targets for roy? No money, broken and weak squad. You're right, we should be trying to play utd off the park as our previous manager did every year.


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there is a diffierence with have realistic/unrealistic expectations with regards to the league and playing with the intent to win each and every game you play, the are mutually exclusive.
 
But the point is that we're not replacing the Rafa who inspired his players to the European Cup and FA Cup. We're replacing the one who lost the plot and the dressing room, and so to suggest that Roy cannot do a better job than THAT Rafa based on the fact he's had mediocre clubs to run for most of his career, and after five tough natches is just plain silly.

He may fall flat on his face. But he may improve on Rafa's recent performance. We just don't know yet. That's the point.
 
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178643#msg1178643 date=1285011807]
But the point is that we're not replacing the Rafa who inspired his players to the European Cup and FA Cup. We're replacing the one who lost the plot and the dressing room, and so to suggest that Roy cannot do a better job than THAT Rafa based on the fact he's had mediocre clubs to run for most of his career, and after five tough natches is just plain silly.

He may fall flat on his face. But he may improve on Rafa's recent performance. We just don't know yet. That's the point.
[/quote]

it's true, there are no sure things in sport (or pretty much anything) but we could have gone for someone 'likely' to succed as they had succeeded in the past.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178602#msg1178602 date=1285009569]
when rafa was having a torrid first season you could look at the man's past and say he's turned things around in the past (1st then 5th then 1st at valencia) then at liverpool you could look at his high league finishes, a slump and then a high league finish. there was previous with rafa turning things around. roy has been a football manager for how long, and has pretty much had mediocre finishes in the league with the exception of sweden, can you look at his past and say with confidence roy can turn things around?

as I said, people will come out with 'he's been in the job 5 minutes give him time ffs' did those same people have the same patience with rafa, a manager who is PROVEN ability to turn bad runs around?
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He had six seasons Neil which produced one decent challenge for the title. He wasted millions on players whom after he paid for them decided they weren't what he wanted. This was money we could ill afford to waste.

He fucked it up in the end and whoever came in after him had a pretty big job to do. Hodgson isn't nor wasn't the ideal replacement but your constant moaning about him not being adventureous enough is probably true but the same could be said for Benitez especially when we had our one great chance of actually winning the title.

He lost the plot after that and deserved to be sacked
 
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[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178643#msg1178643 date=1285011807]
But the point is that we're not replacing the Rafa who inspired his players to the European Cup and FA Cup. We're replacing the one who lost the plot and the dressing room, and so to suggest that Roy cannot do a better job than THAT Rafa based on the fact he's had mediocre clubs to run for most of his career, and after five tough natches is just plain silly.

He may fall flat on his face. But he may improve on Rafa's recent performance. We just don't know yet. That's the point.
[/quote]

it's true, there are no sure things in sport (or pretty much anything) but we could have gone for someone 'likely' to succed as they had succeeded in the past.

[/quote]

Like the Athletico Madrid manager?
 
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178654#msg1178654 date=1285012563]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178650#msg1178650 date=1285012145]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178643#msg1178643 date=1285011807]
But the point is that we're not replacing the Rafa who inspired his players to the European Cup and FA Cup. We're replacing the one who lost the plot and the dressing room, and so to suggest that Roy cannot do a better job than THAT Rafa based on the fact he's had mediocre clubs to run for most of his career, and after five tough natches is just plain silly.

He may fall flat on his face. But he may improve on Rafa's recent performance. We just don't know yet. That's the point.
[/quote]

it's true, there are no sure things in sport (or pretty much anything) but we could have gone for someone 'likely' to succed as they had succeeded in the past.

[/quote]

Like the Athletico Madrid manager?
[/quote]

the AM manager last season had won the uefa cup, (but had a poor league finish) but the reason I wanted him was he was young, hungry and his team play fantastic football. as he grew, we'd grow with him, I'd be prepared to give someone like that time rather than a manager who had been around for decades and essentially won nothing (despite reaching a final). that the uefa cup final was between AM and fulham and we went with the loser rather than approaching the winner.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178658#msg1178658 date=1285013262]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178654#msg1178654 date=1285012563]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178650#msg1178650 date=1285012145]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178643#msg1178643 date=1285011807]
But the point is that we're not replacing the Rafa who inspired his players to the European Cup and FA Cup. We're replacing the one who lost the plot and the dressing room, and so to suggest that Roy cannot do a better job than THAT Rafa based on the fact he's had mediocre clubs to run for most of his career, and after five tough natches is just plain silly.

He may fall flat on his face. But he may improve on Rafa's recent performance. We just don't know yet. That's the point.
[/quote]

it's true, there are no sure things in sport (or pretty much anything) but we could have gone for someone 'likely' to succed as they had succeeded in the past.

[/quote]

Like the Athletico Madrid manager?
[/quote]

the AM manager last season had won the uefa cup, (but had a poor league finish) but the reason I wanted him was he was young, hungry and his team play fantastic football. as he grew, we'd grow with him, I'd be prepared to give someone like that time rather than a manager who had been around for decades and essentially won nothing (despite reaching a final). that the uefa cup final was between AM and fulham and we went with the loser rather than approaching the winner.
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do you believe he would come?
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41962.msg1178659#msg1178659 date=1285013333]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178658#msg1178658 date=1285013262]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178654#msg1178654 date=1285012563]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178650#msg1178650 date=1285012145]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178643#msg1178643 date=1285011807]
But the point is that we're not replacing the Rafa who inspired his players to the European Cup and FA Cup. We're replacing the one who lost the plot and the dressing room, and so to suggest that Roy cannot do a better job than THAT Rafa based on the fact he's had mediocre clubs to run for most of his career, and after five tough natches is just plain silly.

He may fall flat on his face. But he may improve on Rafa's recent performance. We just don't know yet. That's the point.
[/quote]

it's true, there are no sure things in sport (or pretty much anything) but we could have gone for someone 'likely' to succed as they had succeeded in the past.

[/quote]

Like the Athletico Madrid manager?
[/quote]

the AM manager last season had won the uefa cup, (but had a poor league finish) but the reason I wanted him was he was young, hungry and his team play fantastic football. as he grew, we'd grow with him, I'd be prepared to give someone like that time rather than a manager who had been around for decades and essentially won nothing (despite reaching a final). that the uefa cup final was between AM and fulham and we went with the loser rather than approaching the winner.
[/quote]

do you believe he would come?
[/quote]

I would have liked us to approach him. he was my number one choice, and then pellegrini.
anyway,what's done is done. I really hope roy succeeds in securing a top 4 place but I doubt it, I think we will better last season league position, by one place.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178663#msg1178663 date=1285013784]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41962.msg1178659#msg1178659 date=1285013333]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178658#msg1178658 date=1285013262]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178654#msg1178654 date=1285012563]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178650#msg1178650 date=1285012145]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178643#msg1178643 date=1285011807]
But the point is that we're not replacing the Rafa who inspired his players to the European Cup and FA Cup. We're replacing the one who lost the plot and the dressing room, and so to suggest that Roy cannot do a better job than THAT Rafa based on the fact he's had mediocre clubs to run for most of his career, and after five tough natches is just plain silly.

He may fall flat on his face. But he may improve on Rafa's recent performance. We just don't know yet. That's the point.
[/quote]

it's true, there are no sure things in sport (or pretty much anything) but we could have gone for someone 'likely' to succed as they had succeeded in the past.

[/quote]

Like the Athletico Madrid manager?
[/quote]

the AM manager last season had won the uefa cup, (but had a poor league finish) but the reason I wanted him was he was young, hungry and his team play fantastic football. as he grew, we'd grow with him, I'd be prepared to give someone like that time rather than a manager who had been around for decades and essentially won nothing (despite reaching a final). that the uefa cup final was between AM and fulham and we went with the loser rather than approaching the winner.
[/quote]

do you believe he would come?
[/quote]

I would have liked us to approach him. he was my number one choice, and then pellegrini.
anyway,what's done is done. I really hope roy succeeds in securing a top 4 place but I doubt it, I think we will better last season league position, by one place.
[/quote]

But surely we want roy to do better than the last year under the previous regime? Isn't that EXACTLY what people were hoping for? One place or not it doesn't matter, the point is this year we wanted improvement
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178658#msg1178658 date=1285013262]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178654#msg1178654 date=1285012563]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178650#msg1178650 date=1285012145]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178643#msg1178643 date=1285011807]
But the point is that we're not replacing the Rafa who inspired his players to the European Cup and FA Cup. We're replacing the one who lost the plot and the dressing room, and so to suggest that Roy cannot do a better job than THAT Rafa based on the fact he's had mediocre clubs to run for most of his career, and after five tough natches is just plain silly.

He may fall flat on his face. But he may improve on Rafa's recent performance. We just don't know yet. That's the point.
[/quote]

it's true, there are no sure things in sport (or pretty much anything) but we could have gone for someone 'likely' to succed as they had succeeded in the past.

[/quote]

Like the Athletico Madrid manager?
[/quote]

the AM manager last season had won the uefa cup, (but had a poor league finish) but the reason I wanted him was he was young, hungry and his team play fantastic football. as he grew, we'd grow with him, I'd be prepared to give someone like that time rather than a manager who had been around for decades and essentially won nothing (despite reaching a final). that the uefa cup final was between AM and fulham and we went with the loser rather than approaching the winner.
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Didn't Fulham beat us last season? We approached the winner of that one-off game...

Honestly, I simply do not understand your logic - You seem to think that almost anybody would come here at the drop of a hat AND that Fulham are on a level pegging with Athletico Madrid, so Roy failed when Fulham lost that match.
 
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178658#msg1178658 date=1285013262]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178654#msg1178654 date=1285012563]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178650#msg1178650 date=1285012145]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178643#msg1178643 date=1285011807]
But the point is that we're not replacing the Rafa who inspired his players to the European Cup and FA Cup. We're replacing the one who lost the plot and the dressing room, and so to suggest that Roy cannot do a better job than THAT Rafa based on the fact he's had mediocre clubs to run for most of his career, and after five tough natches is just plain silly.

He may fall flat on his face. But he may improve on Rafa's recent performance. We just don't know yet. That's the point.
[/quote]

it's true, there are no sure things in sport (or pretty much anything) but we could have gone for someone 'likely' to succed as they had succeeded in the past.

[/quote]

Like the Athletico Madrid manager?
[/quote]

the AM manager last season had won the uefa cup, (but had a poor league finish) but the reason I wanted him was he was young, hungry and his team play fantastic football. as he grew, we'd grow with him, I'd be prepared to give someone like that time rather than a manager who had been around for decades and essentially won nothing (despite reaching a final). that the uefa cup final was between AM and fulham and we went with the loser rather than approaching the winner.
[/quote]

Didn't Fulham beat us last season? We approached the winner of that one-off game...

Honestly, I simply do not understand your logic - You seem to think that almost anybody would come here at the drop of a hat AND that Fulham are on a level pegging with Athletico Madrid, so Roy failed when Fulham lost that match.
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basically, I wanted someone with a proven track record at a high level, failing that a young, hungry up and coming manager with a view to the long term. I only mentioned fulham because they played AM in the final.
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41962.msg1178666#msg1178666 date=1285014192]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178663#msg1178663 date=1285013784]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41962.msg1178659#msg1178659 date=1285013333]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178658#msg1178658 date=1285013262]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178654#msg1178654 date=1285012563]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178650#msg1178650 date=1285012145]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178643#msg1178643 date=1285011807]
But the point is that we're not replacing the Rafa who inspired his players to the European Cup and FA Cup. We're replacing the one who lost the plot and the dressing room, and so to suggest that Roy cannot do a better job than THAT Rafa based on the fact he's had mediocre clubs to run for most of his career, and after five tough natches is just plain silly.

He may fall flat on his face. But he may improve on Rafa's recent performance. We just don't know yet. That's the point.
[/quote]

it's true, there are no sure things in sport (or pretty much anything) but we could have gone for someone 'likely' to succed as they had succeeded in the past.

[/quote]

Like the Athletico Madrid manager?
[/quote]

the AM manager last season had won the uefa cup, (but had a poor league finish) but the reason I wanted him was he was young, hungry and his team play fantastic football. as he grew, we'd grow with him, I'd be prepared to give someone like that time rather than a manager who had been around for decades and essentially won nothing (despite reaching a final). that the uefa cup final was between AM and fulham and we went with the loser rather than approaching the winner.
[/quote]

do you believe he would come?
[/quote]

I would have liked us to approach him. he was my number one choice, and then pellegrini.
anyway,what's done is done. I really hope roy succeeds in securing a top 4 place but I doubt it, I think we will better last season league position, by one place.
[/quote]

But surely we want roy to do better than the last year under the previous regime? Isn't that EXACTLY what people were hoping for? One place or not it doesn't matter, the point is this year we wanted improvement
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I think had rafa stayed he would have bettered 7th place as well.
 
With potentially gerard and torres leaving as well a mash? can't agree with that neil
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41962.msg1178686#msg1178686 date=1285015251]
With potentially gerard and torres leaving as well a mash? can't agree with that neil
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mash was always going to go and torres and gerrard leaving was speculation, no one knows for fact they would have left had rafa stayed.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178691#msg1178691 date=1285015438]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41962.msg1178686#msg1178686 date=1285015251]
With potentially gerard and torres leaving as well a mash? can't agree with that neil
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mash was always going to go and torres and gerrard leaving was speculation, no one knows for fact they would have left had rafa stayed.
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True, however from their body language last season it certainly seemed a strong possibility.
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41962.msg1178693#msg1178693 date=1285015572]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178691#msg1178691 date=1285015438]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41962.msg1178686#msg1178686 date=1285015251]
With potentially gerard and torres leaving as well a mash? can't agree with that neil
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mash was always going to go and torres and gerrard leaving was speculation, no one knows for fact they would have left had rafa stayed.
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True, however from their body language last season it certainly seemed a strong possibility.
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well, torres' body language has hardly improved, has it?
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178640#msg1178640 date=1285011590]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178635#msg1178635 date=1285011347]
Last year was an unmittigated disaster. Three years ago (like 5 of his 6 seasons here), we were out of the running for the league before Christmas. And the year we finished 2nd, we should have won the f#$!ing title, and failed to do so because Rafa played not-to-lose, rtaher than to win it. We lost the league because we were afraid to go and win it.

Hence, his final three years were dissapointing.

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I guess any season where you don't win silverware is disappointing. maybe it was time for rafa to be on (I don't think it was but I digress) but if you ARE going to move him on ffs replace him with someone better or at least COMPARABLE. rafa has shown he could turn things around at a big club, roy has been mediocre at the previous clubs he has managed.
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constantly repeating the same disproven points won't make them true
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41962.msg1178659#msg1178659 date=1285013333]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178658#msg1178658 date=1285013262]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178654#msg1178654 date=1285012563]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178650#msg1178650 date=1285012145]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178643#msg1178643 date=1285011807]
But the point is that we're not replacing the Rafa who inspired his players to the European Cup and FA Cup. We're replacing the one who lost the plot and the dressing room, and so to suggest that Roy cannot do a better job than THAT Rafa based on the fact he's had mediocre clubs to run for most of his career, and after five tough natches is just plain silly.

He may fall flat on his face. But he may improve on Rafa's recent performance. We just don't know yet. That's the point.
[/quote]

it's true, there are no sure things in sport (or pretty much anything) but we could have gone for someone 'likely' to succed as they had succeeded in the past.

[/quote]

Like the Athletico Madrid manager?
[/quote]

the AM manager last season had won the uefa cup, (but had a poor league finish) but the reason I wanted him was he was young, hungry and his team play fantastic football. as he grew, we'd grow with him, I'd be prepared to give someone like that time rather than a manager who had been around for decades and essentially won nothing (despite reaching a final). that the uefa cup final was between AM and fulham and we went with the loser rather than approaching the winner.
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do you believe he would come?
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He doesn't even know his name
 
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[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41962.msg1178659#msg1178659 date=1285013333]
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[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178654#msg1178654 date=1285012563]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178650#msg1178650 date=1285012145]
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41962.msg1178643#msg1178643 date=1285011807]
But the point is that we're not replacing the Rafa who inspired his players to the European Cup and FA Cup. We're replacing the one who lost the plot and the dressing room, and so to suggest that Roy cannot do a better job than THAT Rafa based on the fact he's had mediocre clubs to run for most of his career, and after five tough natches is just plain silly.

He may fall flat on his face. But he may improve on Rafa's recent performance. We just don't know yet. That's the point.
[/quote]

it's true, there are no sure things in sport (or pretty much anything) but we could have gone for someone 'likely' to succed as they had succeeded in the past.

[/quote]

Like the Athletico Madrid manager?
[/quote]

the AM manager last season had won the uefa cup, (but had a poor league finish) but the reason I wanted him was he was young, hungry and his team play fantastic football. as he grew, we'd grow with him, I'd be prepared to give someone like that time rather than a manager who had been around for decades and essentially won nothing (despite reaching a final). that the uefa cup final was between AM and fulham and we went with the loser rather than approaching the winner.
[/quote]

do you believe he would come?
[/quote]

He doesn't even know his name
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Liverpool should consider Quique Sanchez Flores


But, if you are asking me for my personal opinion as to who would make a strong candidate to bring stability to the club, then I would have to suggest that Quique Sanchez Flores – the Atletico Madrid coach – ticks far more boxes than many other names out there, in my opinion. At 45 years of age he is a rare combination of youth and energy combined with experience (including at a big club, Valencia, where he oversaw two successive qualifications for the Champions League and took the club to a quarter final), he has experienced management overseas (Benfica), he is incredibly bright, is excellent in dealing with players and in building strong relationships, tactically very astute and – perhaps most importantly – is very good at turning things around, as he has done at Atletico Madrid. He would have no problem working with Liverpool`s back room staff – many of whom are Spanish and, what Anfield needs right now is evolution not revolution on the playing side. He would understand the systems in place while introducing his own ideas that would enable Liverpool to play the typically non-English football style that the fans crave. And he also speaks English.


Sanchez Flores did agree a one-year extension to his contract at Atletico Madrid very recently, but the lure of taking charge at Liverpool would prove too strong to turn down.

You only have to look at the fantastic job he has done in a short space of time at Atletico to see that he has the credentials to solve many of Liverpool`s problems: he took charge at the Vicente Calderon on a short-term basis in October 2009, filling the vacancy created by Abel Resino`s sacking. He inherited a struggling, lethargic, inconsistent club punching well below their weight with the threat of relegation on the horizon and was able to oversee a remarkable reversal in fortune, restoring belief and consistency to the side.
Atletico ended up reaching two cup finals under his guidance: ironically, beating both Liverpool and Fulham (Roy Hodgson another name linked with the Liverpool job) to win the Europa League, Atletico`s first major trophy since 1996.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=41962.msg1178246#msg1178246 date=1284977361]
Do we really need one of these self-justifying posts after every game?
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On a football forum who would ever have thought! 😛
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=41962.msg1178686#msg1178686 date=1285015251]
With potentially gerard and torres leaving as well a mash? can't agree with that neil
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And Cole wouldn't be here either.

So our team would have Insua, Lucas, Spearing, El Zahr and N'Gog as mainstays. We'd be nowhere close to 7th.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41962.msg1178237#msg1178237 date=1284975291]
my feelings are simply

* I feel fairly confident we'll win most of our home games

* I have no confidence WHATSOEVER for away games

* we draw or lose the majority of our away games, we'll finish midtable, regardless of how well we do at home

* two seasons outside the CL will see at least one of our star players leave

if that makes me negative then guilty as charged.
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Away to City Utd and brum who haven't been beaten at home by any of the top sides hardly means we will lose all our away games.
 
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