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Fulham v Liverpool - Match Thread

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Hendo doesn't trust Minamino, count at least three times he could have passed to him and didn't.
That last one Mina was through and Hendo overhits the cross.

Halmeister I am not the only one here saying this, that's four or five of us over the last couple of weeks
 
I mean , Klopp and the staff need to learn more so than any of the players , we've been terrible away from home all season, our midfield has been awol serveral times this season during those away performances.

You know fully well that spurs will do yo us what they've done against every top side theyve played , I'm not prepared to assume our away performance against Fulham will be similar to our levels against spurs at Anfield in the week, we'll be top of the table come full time Wednesday.
 
I mean , Klopp and the staff need to learn more so than any of the players , we've been terrible away from home all season, our midfield has been awol serveral times this season during those away performances.

You know fully well that spurs will do yo us what they've done against every top side theyve played , I'm not prepared to assume our away performance against Fulham will be similar to our levels against spurs at Anfield in the week, we'll be top of the table come full time Wednesday.
I'm with Hal on whatever he says.
 
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And Jota is now out for the foreseeable future. Again 22 games played to Fulham's 12. Our horrendous injury list (now 10 with Matip) means rotation has been far less than should have been expected.
But doesn't explain why we had more energy in the second half, and not from the start. Our passes in the first half was also shite. Like I said, our performance in the first half away from home had been found wanting, Firmino done nothing in the first half. Something I can never truly understand. I can relate if we started to taper off towards the end of the match if we had played too many matches as you keep reminding me, but that's not the case.
 
- Jota injury hurts us as he's the only option we had off the bench to score goals. Klopp's idiocy has cost us big time.
- Matip injury - so Rhys or Phillips? Or we go for two CMs to play CB? Against Kane and Son ... Going to be fucking tough.
- We need an extra midfield option - anyone know if Thiago is alive?
- Would have been nice to have Shaq or Ox to try and contribute as I just don't know if Taki or Origi can.
- I guess we should be grateful for a point - we were lucky it wasn't Aston Villa-ish at HT.
 
Gini could have broken down - cue the armchair experts: 'What was Klopp thinking?' Same goes for Robertson, any of the frontthree, take your pick. Have you been asleep since the season started? It's pretty much a lottery in terms of who stays on their feet. Outside of fat-arsed computer game players it's surely obvious that it's not that simple? I guess not.
 
Again though this is 100% on Klopp. No Jota and TAA had to come off early because he played 90 mins in an absolutely pointless dead rubber. So fucking stupid what on earth was he thinking.
Winning a CL group game is an extra 3 million quid. Given revenues are on their arse I think that's why he took it more seriously than most expected. Winning one group game in the CL is worth more than winning the League Cup.
 
Minamino played well today, thats something that cant be said about to many others.
Yes, there were some important ball recoveries and some tenacious tackles in there, which we needed after the insipid and passive first half effort.
 
Minamino played well today, thats something that cant be said about to many others.

Really? I mean he was good at winning back possession, decent passing etc but what did he create? I thought he was a creator/finisher type attacking midfielder.
 
Really? I mean he was good at winning back possession, decent passing etc but what did he create? I thought he was a creator/finisher type attacking midfielder.

Thought he played well, allround well.

Matip appaz had some spasms in his back.
Klopp said he could be ready for Spurs.
 
Winning a CL group game is an extra 3 million quid. Given revenues are on their arse I think that's why he took it more seriously than most expected. Winning one group game in the CL is worth more than winning the League Cup.

Was the group not won after 5 games?
 
Quick reminder: Minamino is coming up for a whole year with us shortly, and turns 26 in a month. He’s not a kid.
 
The contact on Salah leading up to their goal - does anyone genuinely not think that, if that had been any player inside the area, it would not have gone to VAR and would probably have been called a pen? Because I don't doubt that. VAR is now so stunningly misused that any contact at all in the area and it'll probably lead to a pen, or else will be studied for about five minutes until very reluctantly being dismissed. If it's outside the box, it'll most likely be ignored. I'm still a supporter of VAR as it was intended, but 'as it was intended' ought to mean that, in most games, it gathers dust! It's not there to triple check every decision, as well as triple check non-decisions. This is madness how it's being misapplied. I'm really angry with Souness, increasingly eager to preen himself as a publicity-hungry pundit, for that self-serving claim that Fabino fouled the player - he knows damn well that was not a pen - because he's handed VAR yet another escape route. That incident was a blatant example of VAR's corruption - to watch a replay that many times, it must be a record, it was outrageous. Clear and obvious. That's all VAR should be concerned by. You don't look at something for about 30 times over about four minutes if it's clear and obvious. It's a scandal that this farce continues.

I'll say it again: one replay. That should be the rule. Look at one replay, and either overturn a decision or leave it.
 
There are so many incompetent refs in this league, that you know you are in trouble if the wrong person is in the VAR room.
Lee Mason, bah...
 
The contact on Salah leading up to their goal - does anyone genuinely not think that, if that had been any player inside the area, it would not have gone to VAR and would probably have been called a pen? Because I don't doubt that. VAR is now so stunningly misused that any contact at all in the area and it'll probably lead to a pen, or else will be studied for about five minutes until very reluctantly being dismissed. If it's outside the box, it'll most likely be ignored. I'm still a supporter of VAR as it was intended, but 'as it was intended' ought to mean that, in most games, it gathers dust! It's not there to triple check every decision, as well as triple check non-decisions. This is madness how it's being misapplied. I'm really angry with Souness, increasingly eager to preen himself as a publicity-hungry pundit, for that self-serving claim that Fabino fouled the player - he knows damn well that was not a pen - because he's handed VAR yet another escape route. That incident was a blatant example of VAR's corruption - to watch a replay that many times, it must be a record, it was outrageous. Clear and obvious. That's all VAR should be concerned by. You don't look at something for about 30 times over about four minutes if it's clear and obvious. It's a scandal that this farce continues.

I'll say it again: one replay. That should be the rule. Look at one replay, and either overturn a decision or leave it.

Yep, and scrap these fucking offside lines.
 
That was shite.

How was it not a foul in the build up to their goal?

We started too slowly, if we do that against Spurs they'll score plenty. Once we started attacking and pushing up, Fulham were too scared to do anything other than counter which is what we should have done from minute 1.

Hendo's 1 on 1 was a turning point, he could have squared to Taki who was unmarked in the middle of the goal. Certain goal.

We wasted a lot of other great chances, but also just didn't create enough. We need to start having a few more digs from range too rather than always trying to either get it out wide or intricate passes around the box.

As many have said, the first 30 mins was the same as the Villa game, but with a different keeper. Whilst it is comforting that Spurs, City & Chelsea all dropped points, but it was also the chance to get a buffer against them at the top.
 
We wasted a lot of other great chances, but also just didn't create enough. We need to start having a few more digs from range too rather than always trying to either get it out wide or intricate passes around the box.

That's where we miss Fabinho ...
 
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