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[quote author=Buddha link=topic=48596.msg1479064#msg1479064 date=1328689143]
The same poster who'd get Enrique horribly wrong?
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I'm still hoping he'll be right about Henderson!
The same poster who'd get Enrique horribly wrong?
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I'm still hoping he'll be right about Henderson!
I hate to say I told you so..... But I actually did.
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[quote author=Fabio link=topic=48596.msg1478560#msg1478560 date=1328567239]
I'm nailing my colours to the mast
I'm fed up with him.
He needs confidence but he's not willing to gamble enough to get confidence back. But he won't gamble because he has no confidence.
He's in a catch 22 and because of that he's fucked.
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I don't even think that's entirely true. He cracked a shot from about 30 yards the other day when he had better options ahead of him, that's gambling. He just looks like an average Joe who just doesn't have enough in the locker to make a significant enough difference. I'm hoping he improves and gets somewhere close to his Villa form at some point, but really, I think HE has been the let down of the Summer for us.
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=48596.msg1478560#msg1478560 date=1328567239]
I'm nailing my colours to the mast
I'm fed up with him.
He needs confidence but he's not willing to gamble enough to get confidence back. But he won't gamble because he has no confidence.
He's in a catch 22 and because of that he's fucked.
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I don't even think that's entirely true. He cracked a shot from about 30 yards the other day when he had better options ahead of him, that's gambling. He just looks like an average Joe who just doesn't have enough in the locker to make a significant enough difference. I'm hoping he improves and gets somewhere close to his Villa form at some point, but really, I think HE has been the let down of the Summer for us.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=48596.msg1478684#msg1478684 date=1328616010]
I'd be very disappointed if he was with us next year. He is really average. Well, that's a compliment. He's below average. Horrifiying signing.
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You were right the first time, he's average and only worth £8m-ish. The fact is he probably will have a good series of games for us at some stage and he will sway the opinion of some posters BUT regardless of any upswing in his performances he was a very bad buy for £20m and those of us who have watched him for 6 or 7 seasons didn't need to see him in a red shirt to know how average he was.
I'd be very disappointed if he was with us next year. He is really average. Well, that's a compliment. He's below average. Horrifiying signing.
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You were right the first time, he's average and only worth £8m-ish. The fact is he probably will have a good series of games for us at some stage and he will sway the opinion of some posters BUT regardless of any upswing in his performances he was a very bad buy for £20m and those of us who have watched him for 6 or 7 seasons didn't need to see him in a red shirt to know how average he was.
If there was one player I was expecting to be the new "lucas" / whipping boy on here it was Stu.
I am genuinly gutted how he has done for us, he has all the talent, the tricks, the pace, strong left foot to be a top left winger.
I don't know if it is in his head, he does not have the flashness or arrogance of a top winger he is just lacking something..
Everytime I watch him, I see moments which make me excited then he bottles it 3 or 4 times on the flank choosing the easy option and then loses his confidence.
He should say fuck it, I am going to try to beat the man and get a cross in everytime today regardless of how many times it works, no winger beats his man everytme but the top ones don't take it to heart they just try it again.
Who knows what could have happened if that amazing run on his debut did not end with him hitting the bar (shocker)
I am genuinly gutted how he has done for us, he has all the talent, the tricks, the pace, strong left foot to be a top left winger.
I don't know if it is in his head, he does not have the flashness or arrogance of a top winger he is just lacking something..
Everytime I watch him, I see moments which make me excited then he bottles it 3 or 4 times on the flank choosing the easy option and then loses his confidence.
He should say fuck it, I am going to try to beat the man and get a cross in everytime today regardless of how many times it works, no winger beats his man everytme but the top ones don't take it to heart they just try it again.
Who knows what could have happened if that amazing run on his debut did not end with him hitting the bar (shocker)
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48596.msg1479167#msg1479167 date=1328697342]
He'd want to get a move on if he's going to give us those 10 assists Spidey said he guaranteed us.
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to be fair Ross for any other top 6 team he would have had them already as our strikers have fluffed some sitters from his crosses.
it would be interesting to know how many of his assists ended up on the woodwork
He'd want to get a move on if he's going to give us those 10 assists Spidey said he guaranteed us.
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to be fair Ross for any other top 6 team he would have had them already as our strikers have fluffed some sitters from his crosses.
it would be interesting to know how many of his assists ended up on the woodwork
[quote author=hmmmmm1 link=topic=48596.msg1478574#msg1478574 date=1328567675]
What he infuriates me the most about him is that he has no heart.
He could learn a thing or off spearing, another limited player who at least is willing to try things (mostly without success!)
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Bah! Spearing is the scouse Xavi!
What he infuriates me the most about him is that he has no heart.
He could learn a thing or off spearing, another limited player who at least is willing to try things (mostly without success!)
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Bah! Spearing is the scouse Xavi!
Back in the old Koptalk days there was a poster, a Welsh lad with the usernames NY Red/Brooklyn Red, who was a big fan of Downing's and often advocated buying him. Wonder what he thinks now.
TBF he does have the pace and the strong left foot. The rest of that list seems in pretty short supply now though, as does the mental strength.
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[quote author=Fox link=topic=48596.msg1479161#msg1479161 date=1328696982]he has all the talent, the tricks, the pace, strong left foot to be a top left winger.
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That's the thing though, he doesn't.
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Aye, he has it all in moderation though and he should be doing alot better than he has. He just looks over-awed to me and out of his depth.
[quote author=Fox link=topic=48596.msg1479161#msg1479161 date=1328696982]he has all the talent, the tricks, the pace, strong left foot to be a top left winger.
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That's the thing though, he doesn't.
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Aye, he has it all in moderation though and he should be doing alot better than he has. He just looks over-awed to me and out of his depth.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48596.msg1479264#msg1479264 date=1328703692]
Back in the old Koptalk days there was a poster, a Welsh lad with the usernames NY Red/Brooklyn Red, who was a big fan of Downing's and often advocated buying him. Wonder what he thinks now.
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I remember this lad.
Back in the old Koptalk days there was a poster, a Welsh lad with the usernames NY Red/Brooklyn Red, who was a big fan of Downing's and often advocated buying him. Wonder what he thinks now.
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I remember this lad.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48596.msg1479264#msg1479264 date=1328703692]
Back in the old Koptalk days there was a poster, a Welsh lad with the usernames NY Red/Brooklyn Red, who was a big fan of Downing's and often advocated buying him. Wonder what he thinks now.
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haha
Is that who I think it is?
Back in the old Koptalk days there was a poster, a Welsh lad with the usernames NY Red/Brooklyn Red, who was a big fan of Downing's and often advocated buying him. Wonder what he thinks now.
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haha
Is that who I think it is?
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=48596.msg1479282#msg1479282 date=1328704628]
Bascially the lad needs to grow a pair of balls. He's no world beater and never will be but he should be showing and is capable of producing alot more than he has this season.
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Definitely. Never been a big fan but Downing's got ability and is capable of so much more. Extremely disappointing signing.
Bascially the lad needs to grow a pair of balls. He's no world beater and never will be but he should be showing and is capable of producing alot more than he has this season.
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Definitely. Never been a big fan but Downing's got ability and is capable of so much more. Extremely disappointing signing.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=48596.msg1479283#msg1479283 date=1328704695]
Every time I've seen him try and outpace a defender he's been caught up. That's why he checks back so often.
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bit harsh Ken fella, Walker was quick the other day but I have seen Downing skin loads for pace this year, problem is the cross afterwards ;D
Every time I've seen him try and outpace a defender he's been caught up. That's why he checks back so often.
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bit harsh Ken fella, Walker was quick the other day but I have seen Downing skin loads for pace this year, problem is the cross afterwards ;D
[quote author=refugee link=topic=48596.msg1479356#msg1479356 date=1328710262]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48596.msg1479264#msg1479264 date=1328703692]
Back in the old Koptalk days there was a poster, a Welsh lad with the usernames NY Red/Brooklyn Red, who was a big fan of Downing's and often advocated buying him. Wonder what he thinks now.
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haha
Is that who I think it is?
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If you mean Xpert League's Manager of the Century, nope. Different Welshman altogether.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48596.msg1479264#msg1479264 date=1328703692]
Back in the old Koptalk days there was a poster, a Welsh lad with the usernames NY Red/Brooklyn Red, who was a big fan of Downing's and often advocated buying him. Wonder what he thinks now.
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haha
Is that who I think it is?
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If you mean Xpert League's Manager of the Century, nope. Different Welshman altogether.
I thought NY Red was Irish for some reason. I think he met up with Dunc once for pint. He also had inside info on someone who was going to take over the club, don't think it was Hicks and Gillette though...
No, he originated from Cardiff (though he'd been in the States for a long time, since going over to study at Harvard). It was Robert Kraft that he knew and hoped to see taking over.
After what he did at New England Revolution though (with our own Stevie Nicol at the helm) I think we could have done a lot worse. NY Red was a true LFC fan and was VERY keen that Kraft and his organisation come in. It's hard to imagine he'd have been any worse than Zippy and Bungle, a.k.a.Moores and Parry, let alone the two chancers to whom they sold out.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48596.msg1479460#msg1479460 date=1328721672]
[quote author=refugee link=topic=48596.msg1479356#msg1479356 date=1328710262]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48596.msg1479264#msg1479264 date=1328703692]
Back in the old Koptalk days there was a poster, a Welsh lad with the usernames NY Red/Brooklyn Red, who was a big fan of Downing's and often advocated buying him. Wonder what he thinks now.
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haha
Is that who I think it is?
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If you mean Xpert League's Manager of the Century, nope. Different Welshman altogether.
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That's a shame.
[quote author=refugee link=topic=48596.msg1479356#msg1479356 date=1328710262]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48596.msg1479264#msg1479264 date=1328703692]
Back in the old Koptalk days there was a poster, a Welsh lad with the usernames NY Red/Brooklyn Red, who was a big fan of Downing's and often advocated buying him. Wonder what he thinks now.
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haha
Is that who I think it is?
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If you mean Xpert League's Manager of the Century, nope. Different Welshman altogether.
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That's a shame.
[quote author=Fox link=topic=48596.msg1479161#msg1479161 date=1328696982]
If there was one player I was expecting to be the new "lucas" / whipping boy on here it was Stu.
I am genuinly gutted how he has done for us, he has all the talent, the tricks, the pace, strong left foot to be a top left winger.
I don't know if it is in his head, he does not have the flashness or arrogance of a top winger he is just lacking something..
Everytime I watch him, I see moments which make me excited then he bottles it 3 or 4 times on the flank choosing the easy option and then loses his confidence.
He should say fuck it, I am going to try to beat the man and get a cross in everytime today regardless of how many times it works, no winger beats his man everytme but the top ones don't take it to heart they just try it again.
Who knows what could have happened if that amazing run on his debut did not end with him hitting the bar (shocker)
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Name one trick (beyond running fast with the ball) that Stu has got in his reportoire.
If there was one player I was expecting to be the new "lucas" / whipping boy on here it was Stu.
I am genuinly gutted how he has done for us, he has all the talent, the tricks, the pace, strong left foot to be a top left winger.
I don't know if it is in his head, he does not have the flashness or arrogance of a top winger he is just lacking something..
Everytime I watch him, I see moments which make me excited then he bottles it 3 or 4 times on the flank choosing the easy option and then loses his confidence.
He should say fuck it, I am going to try to beat the man and get a cross in everytime today regardless of how many times it works, no winger beats his man everytme but the top ones don't take it to heart they just try it again.
Who knows what could have happened if that amazing run on his debut did not end with him hitting the bar (shocker)
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Name one trick (beyond running fast with the ball) that Stu has got in his reportoire.
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