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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=44931.msg1364380#msg1364380 date=1310567932]
Like every other English journo who has tried to write about sabremetrics the article above fails to make the point that not all stats have value. The games played one has value, the most crosses one doesnt tell us much though - that was the stat used to highlight why we bought Pennant.
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Like every other English journo who has tried to write about sabremetrics the article above fails to make the point that not all stats have value. The games played one has value, the most crosses one doesnt tell us much though - that was the stat used to highlight why we bought Pennant.
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[quote author=Fabio link=topic=44931.msg1364391#msg1364391 date=1310571341]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=44931.msg1364387#msg1364387 date=1310570096]
And how many of his assists came from crosses?
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How is that downings fault? If the front men can't head it in
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that's my thinking as well
nani - aims for berbatosh
downing - aims for heskey
you can see why one has 14 assists and the other has 7
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=44931.msg1364387#msg1364387 date=1310570096]
And how many of his assists came from crosses?
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How is that downings fault? If the front men can't head it in
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that's my thinking as well
nani - aims for berbatosh
downing - aims for heskey
you can see why one has 14 assists and the other has 7
Is it succesful cross if it clips the top of a guys head, or if it misses everyone in the box and lands at a guys feet standing on the sideline. A successful cross is not necessarily a good one.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44931.msg1364094#msg1364094 date=1310549988]
Nice article, ta.
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Yes not a lot to disagree with there
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Nice article, ta.
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Yes not a lot to disagree with there
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pennant - shit crosser
crouch - shit header
result = fuck all
downing - great crosser
carroll - great header
result - carnage
crouch - shit header
result = fuck all
downing - great crosser
carroll - great header
result - carnage
The theory does sound good. I'm just not sure Downing is as good as the stats say, and Caroll is still to prove himself too.
what's pleasing is downing can also cross right footed so if he isn't getting any joy out of the right fullback he can switch over to the right and have a go at the left fullback.
He can also run across the pitch and back pass to pepe with either foot depending on whether he's running from left to right or right to left.
want this deal tied up sooner rather than later.
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Squiggles
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If I had Carew to aim crosses to, I'm pretty sure I would be high up the list of players with a most successful cross rate.
S'pose he's got Carroll to launch them at now, but it's by no means a persuasive stat.
S'pose he's got Carroll to launch them at now, but it's by no means a persuasive stat.
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44931.msg1364449#msg1364449 date=1310580465]
If I had Carew to aim crosses to, I'm pretty sure I would be high up the list of players with a most successful cross rate.
S'pose he's got Carroll to launch them at now, but it's by no means a persuasive stat.
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Carew was on loan at Stoke wasn't he? At least for half a season
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44931.msg1364449#msg1364449 date=1310580465]
If I had Carew to aim crosses to, I'm pretty sure I would be high up the list of players with a most successful cross rate.
S'pose he's got Carroll to launch them at now, but it's by no means a persuasive stat.
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Carew was on loan at Stoke wasn't he? At least for half a season
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Thought it was over a three year period. Fair enough if not.
He delivered some very good crosses for Carew, and now he will do the same for Carroll. Watching the game today its obvious that we need a left winger. We are currently getting maybe 40 % of what Carroll is capable of. Not once did we hit a cross he coukd attack.
Weird fact from a Villa fan, apparantly Downing is able to run backwards very fast and it's kind of a joke in training where he races against some of the slower or less fit players (with him running backwards) and sometimes he even wins. I assume it's only over 50 metres or less.
Anyone else heard this? It was a feature in one of their match day programmes at Villa Park last year appaz.
Anyone else heard this? It was a feature in one of their match day programmes at Villa Park last year appaz.
Running backwards quickly is a very good attribute to have as a footy player. Running forwards quickly is a pretty good attribute to have as well though, but then i don't think downing is anywhere near as slow as most do.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44931.msg1364507#msg1364507 date=1310588606]
Where the fuck is the boring cunt anyway!!?
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He's just busy at Melwood having his 5th medical in 48 hours. Patience mate.
He's also been sighted on Merseyside deep in conversation with Zidane. Twitter reports it was in relation to Downing looking to rent out Zizou's Crib.
Where the fuck is the boring cunt anyway!!?
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He's just busy at Melwood having his 5th medical in 48 hours. Patience mate.
He's also been sighted on Merseyside deep in conversation with Zidane. Twitter reports it was in relation to Downing looking to rent out Zizou's Crib.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44931.msg1364507#msg1364507 date=1310588606]
Where the fuck is the boring cunt anyway!!?
[/quote] My laptop's playimg up.
Where the fuck is the boring cunt anyway!!?
[/quote] My laptop's playimg up.
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=44931.msg1364533#msg1364533 date=1310591274]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44931.msg1364507#msg1364507 date=1310588606]
Where the fuck is the boring cunt anyway!!?
[/quote] My laptop's playimg up.
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Hahaha Big L's on form tonight
regards
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44931.msg1364507#msg1364507 date=1310588606]
Where the fuck is the boring cunt anyway!!?
[/quote] My laptop's playimg up.
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Hahaha Big L's on form tonight
regards
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Squiggles
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You just want a fancy foreign name.
I don't want us to spend 20 mill on Downing but if he's the player Kenny wants then fair enough, I think teams will hold us over a barrel because they know we have the money and if we want a particular player then we have to pay the asking price as was the case with Carroll
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