Nah, never.
The uproar would have been staggering.
Remember when Rooney, a blue, spoke to the rag? There was a massive uproar.
They usually use quotes from interviews our players would give to other journalists, then use it like their own.
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Nah, never.
The uproar would have been staggering.
Remember when Rooney, a blue, spoke to the rag? There was a massive uproar.
They usually use quotes from interviews our players would give to other journalists, then use it like their own.
True.
Fuck, I'm pretty sure I have ... because I remember thinking, wtf he spoke to The S*n? And then thinking why it wasn't being discussed on Liverpool forums.
Maybe I'm just losing my mind.
EDIT: Just re-read your post
THIS most likely explains it.
The silence from dirk is damning tbh. Perhaps he thought "I'm going anyway" and decided to do it.
Leaves a bitter taste
It's odd - so many people don't seem remarkably fussed by it ...
I would have been disappointed a while back, but now seems like the right time. He's done well for us, but he's not going to play as often any more, and he's right to move somewhere where he can play a lot more. I wish him all the best.
Something doesn't sit right with the whole thing.
Dirk did a speech at the Hillsborough Memorial a while back, so you'd think if this was such a dour episode and there was much of a grain of truth in it, we'd have heard uproar from the families and an explanation from the club. Seems a load of bollocks to me, yet as per, posters seem all to ready to jump on 'our' player based on the words of a journalist working for the paper that none of us believe.
Seems like a shit load of hypocrisy to me. And Roopy is right btw, this isn't the first time players and ex-players have had stories posted by The Lying Rag and delivered with the impression that they spoke straight to them. It kind of makes you wonder why a journo would go to such lengths to insist the story was given first hand. So forgive me that I'll have a shed load of doubt over the source, some shred of hope that the player was either misguided, misled or just a bit naive and I'll put alot more weight behind the fact that in the 6 years he was here, he acted with dignity, love for the club and a deep understanding of what the club is about.
It may well have left a sour taste for some, but it seems, like over many a subject on here, people are desperately looking for a stick to beat one of our own with. Let's not tar him with the same brush as Intadje, a player who really was ignorant to the ethics and history of the club.
Why's it damning? People are seriously thinking too much. Have the families made a complaint?
Desperately? It's like me saying you're desperately looking for a reason to ignore something we'd be furious about if it wasn't Kuyt. You bring up Intadje - he made one mistake and was tarred (rightly or wrongly). What did he do wrong, bar that, to deserve not been given the benefit of the doubt like you're doing with Kuyt? He obviously meant no disrespect etc. Why the double standards? Because he didn't contribute to our club on the pitch as much as Dirk did? Now Dirk e may have been mislead, or lied to (as you said) - so just come out and say so ... I know I'd believe him, as would 99% of the fans. But the silence is rather odd ...
Didn't Dirk also complain bitterly in the press about not been given a chance this year (he had what, 20 starts+ in the league?), blaming Kenny for his poor form etc? That's dignity? Sorry mate, the last two months were totally not like Dirk.
Lastly, bar Souness's gaffe, what ex-players and first time players talked directly to The Lying Rag (i.e. a direct interview)? Just wondering as I only remember Souness ... Maybe you're right, and it's not that bad of a thing to do.
Because it's been confirmed he talked to The Lying Rag, yet he's not trying to justify it.
Its like he's saying he's not arsed that he talked to The Lying Rag because he's leaving.
I'm surprised there hasn't been a kick off tbh. Which is why I find it all weird.
Maybe he's not giving it credence as it doesn't feel it's worth it? He probably has things written about him the whole time, and he doesn't fell the need to deny everything.
That could be a reason Gerry ... but for someone who we all understand GETS Liverpool, and understands our issues as people with The Lying Rag, this doesn't just seem to be some rumor in the Independent or the Mail.
Why's it double standards? I agree Intadje meant no harm, but it was a blatant lack of understanding. This has been neither condemned nor justified either way. Fabs saying that he doesn't feel arsed cos he's leaving. Are the families not arsed either?
If that's the case gerry the.. He should be aware the fans wouldn't be happy with him over it.
The kenny stuff fine, don't clarify, but the talking to The Lying Rag part he should KNOW, especially after the reading at the memorial, what it means to this club.
The kenny stuff fine, don't clarify, but the talking to The Lying Rag part he should KNOW, especially after the reading at the memorial, what it means to this club.
It's a rumour that has been "confirmed" by someone in the S*n, I'd be more likely to deny something made up in the Independent or the Mail.
I haven't been looking on other forums, but from what I can see the HJC don't seem to be making a deal about this. I'm not sure why some on here are?
But then I realised the people that are making a deal about it, were never his biggest fans anyway...
That's what I find odd! The silence from everyone! It's damning from dirk (IMHO) but equally questionable from the families. Unless dirk handled it out of the press by talking to the families after the interview, I can't get why it's so quiet
Do you think it's because he was popular he's getting no grief?
No, it's because I doubt he has done anything wrong.
It seems like double standards because of how he was crucified (again, rightly or wrongly - that's not what we're talking) despite obviously not being aware how his actions would hurt people. Yet when someone who does know seemingly does something - the player is given the benefit of the doubt because of he's a 'good guy,' and his phenomenal track record for the club, on and off the pitch, until the last two months.
We're having an interesting & respectful debate and the usual horseshit comes up ... Good job!
What on earth is wrong with giving him the benefit of the doubt?
He was a good pro whilst he was here (the odd minor comment about not playing aside). In the grand scheme of things one interview doesn't really matter.
I'm glad he's gone because it forces the hand of the management to buy someone to replace him. Hopefully that replacement will be good.
I'm glad he's gone because it forces the hand of the management to buy someone to replace him. Hopefully that replacement will be good.
I was comparing it to the situation with good ole Charles, where I remember quite a few people on here slamming him when it was quite obvious he had no idea how hurtful his actions were.
As for 'what on earth' - I don't think there's anything wrong, but it would be good - considering the sensitivity of the issue - if Dirk just said, "pure lies - I would never talk to those twats" and I doubt there would be many fans - if any - who would take The Lying Rag's words over his.
He can do what he wants mate - I'm not 'demanding' anything. I find myself in the 'I doubt he said it' camp, but the whole episode just left a weird taste in my mouth (and his moaning to the press about not playing etc).
I would be interested to see if HUC aware aware of it, and if so, their opinions on the matter.
My suspicion is that Paul Smith - eager to impress at the S*n after moving there only a couple of months ago - was unscrupulous enough to try to bluff his way through it, and Dirk was away discussing his future and was probably oblivious of where his comments were being reported. But if that is what happened then Dirk doesn't deserve the sour taste that has been left and Smith deserves being censured.
It's nice to know the truth sometimes ... and my guess is Macca's stance is what happened, so why not get that confirmed?
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