David Silva - the new Luis Garcia? Minus the goals
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[quote author=Paddy link=topic=33906.msg882292#msg882292 date=1244135473]
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=33906.msg882272#msg882272 date=1244132741]
spanish press reckon we had a 17 ill euro bid turned down. i have no doubt it's down to silva wanting to join madrid.
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Outbid.
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being outbid isn't a big deal if the player wants to go to you, who knows if silva's perferred destination is real rather than us.
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=33906.msg882272#msg882272 date=1244132741]
spanish press reckon we had a 17 ill euro bid turned down. i have no doubt it's down to silva wanting to join madrid.
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Outbid.
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being outbid isn't a big deal if the player wants to go to you, who knows if silva's perferred destination is real rather than us.
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[quote author=Paddy link=topic=33906.msg882292#msg882292 date=1244135473]
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=33906.msg882272#msg882272 date=1244132741]
spanish press reckon we had a 17 ill euro bid turned down. i have no doubt it's down to silva wanting to join madrid.
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Outbid.
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being outbid isn't a big deal if the player wants to go to you, who knows if silva's perferred destination is real rather than us.
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face it, man. we got outbid.
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=33906.msg882292#msg882292 date=1244135473]
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=33906.msg882272#msg882272 date=1244132741]
spanish press reckon we had a 17 ill euro bid turned down. i have no doubt it's down to silva wanting to join madrid.
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Outbid.
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being outbid isn't a big deal if the player wants to go to you, who knows if silva's perferred destination is real rather than us.
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face it, man. we got outbid.
Do they really need him? If they're after Ribery/Ronaldo. Should Silva go to Real, we should make a bid for Robben. Hes the one player that Id be happy with if Silva doesnt sign for us. Cunt yes, world class yes.
Worst case Mata. Who also looks excellent.
Worst case Mata. Who also looks excellent.
I appreciate that it is mostly idle media speculation but our offer for silva according to the Mirror was £15m + Voronin.
Now, despite what we might think of Andre, after the respectable season he has had he is probably in the £3-5m bracket.
If the Mirror story is accurate, we havent necessarily been out bid.
Now, despite what we might think of Andre, after the respectable season he has had he is probably in the £3-5m bracket.
If the Mirror story is accurate, we havent necessarily been out bid.
[quote author=the count link=topic=33906.msg882317#msg882317 date=1244139597]
I appreciate that it is mostly idle media speculation but our offer for silva according to the Mirror was £15m + Voronin.
Now, despite what we might think of Andre, after the respectable season he has had he is probably in the £3-5m bracket.
If the Mirror story is accurate, we havent necessarily been out bid.
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we can't compete with blank cheques.
I appreciate that it is mostly idle media speculation but our offer for silva according to the Mirror was £15m + Voronin.
Now, despite what we might think of Andre, after the respectable season he has had he is probably in the £3-5m bracket.
If the Mirror story is accurate, we havent necessarily been out bid.
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we can't compete with blank cheques.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=33906.msg882273#msg882273 date=1244132850]
I have a vague recollection that one of Madrids tactics when trying to sign a player is to show an interest in a player that the club they are trying to leverage a player from has shown an interest in. They then pull out of the race if the selling team sell their player. I could have dreamt this, but in theory it would be.
Liverpool - we arent selling alonso
real - ok fine, we'll go for silva instead.
Liverpool - eh? Were after him.
Real - well maybe we dont have the money for silva if we get our first choice*wink*
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That sounds very plausible. Because I don't think Silva is a Florentino Perez kind of signing at all. He always goes for big, established names that will drive shirt sales, not for young-ish players on the verge of stardom. That's Rafa's trademark, not Perez's. Maybe Perez could settle on Silva after giving up on Ronaldo, but he surely won't sing Silva while he still has a chance on Ronaldo.
I think we need to lighten up, though. There will be lots of quality attacking midfielders on the market and some at knockdown prices. Even if Real do end up signing Silva, they will have to get rid of Snejder, Robben and Van der Vaart, if Barca or ManU sign Ribery, they will have to offload Hleb or Tevez and so on. If we have 20 million + income from player sales, we should be able to sign a quality player.
I have a vague recollection that one of Madrids tactics when trying to sign a player is to show an interest in a player that the club they are trying to leverage a player from has shown an interest in. They then pull out of the race if the selling team sell their player. I could have dreamt this, but in theory it would be.
Liverpool - we arent selling alonso
real - ok fine, we'll go for silva instead.
Liverpool - eh? Were after him.
Real - well maybe we dont have the money for silva if we get our first choice*wink*
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That sounds very plausible. Because I don't think Silva is a Florentino Perez kind of signing at all. He always goes for big, established names that will drive shirt sales, not for young-ish players on the verge of stardom. That's Rafa's trademark, not Perez's. Maybe Perez could settle on Silva after giving up on Ronaldo, but he surely won't sing Silva while he still has a chance on Ronaldo.
I think we need to lighten up, though. There will be lots of quality attacking midfielders on the market and some at knockdown prices. Even if Real do end up signing Silva, they will have to get rid of Snejder, Robben and Van der Vaart, if Barca or ManU sign Ribery, they will have to offload Hleb or Tevez and so on. If we have 20 million + income from player sales, we should be able to sign a quality player.
I think he'd be their first point of call tbh.
I'm still somewhat confident we'll end up getting Silva. Got a feeling Real are rather after Villa.
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=33906.msg882342#msg882342 date=1244142548]
I'm still somewhat confident we'll end up getting Silva. Got a feeling Real are rather after Villa.
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now that real have entered the ring I'm not confident at all, silva looks like the type who'd perfer to stay in his homland.
I'm still somewhat confident we'll end up getting Silva. Got a feeling Real are rather after Villa.
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now that real have entered the ring I'm not confident at all, silva looks like the type who'd perfer to stay in his homland.
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[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=33906.msg882342#msg882342 date=1244142548]
I'm still somewhat confident we'll end up getting Silva. Got a feeling Real are rather after Villa.
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now that real have entered the ring I'm not confident at all, silva looks like the type who'd perfer to stay in his homland.
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I'm only confident because I don't think Real really want Silva. With their galactico standards he'd be a bit of a 'meh' signing for Real.
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=33906.msg882342#msg882342 date=1244142548]
I'm still somewhat confident we'll end up getting Silva. Got a feeling Real are rather after Villa.
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now that real have entered the ring I'm not confident at all, silva looks like the type who'd perfer to stay in his homland.
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I'm only confident because I don't think Real really want Silva. With their galactico standards he'd be a bit of a 'meh' signing for Real.
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[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=33906.msg882342#msg882342 date=1244142548]
I'm still somewhat confident we'll end up getting Silva. Got a feeling Real are rather after Villa.
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now that real have entered the ring I'm not confident at all, silva looks like the type who'd perfer to stay in his homland.
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How exactly does he "look" like this?
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=33906.msg882342#msg882342 date=1244142548]
I'm still somewhat confident we'll end up getting Silva. Got a feeling Real are rather after Villa.
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now that real have entered the ring I'm not confident at all, silva looks like the type who'd perfer to stay in his homland.
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How exactly does he "look" like this?
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[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=33906.msg882342#msg882342 date=1244142548]
I'm still somewhat confident we'll end up getting Silva. Got a feeling Real are rather after Villa.
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now that real have entered the ring I'm not confident at all, silva looks like the type who'd perfer to stay in his homland.
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How exactly does he "look" like this?
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okay, point taken 😛
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[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=33906.msg882342#msg882342 date=1244142548]
I'm still somewhat confident we'll end up getting Silva. Got a feeling Real are rather after Villa.
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now that real have entered the ring I'm not confident at all, silva looks like the type who'd perfer to stay in his homland.
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How exactly does he "look" like this?
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okay, point taken 😛
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[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=33906.msg882342#msg882342 date=1244142548]
I'm still somewhat confident we'll end up getting Silva. Got a feeling Real are rather after Villa.
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now that real have entered the ring I'm not confident at all, silva looks like the type who'd perfer to stay in his homland.
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LFC is much closer to being a Spanish team than Real at the moment. 5 Spain internationals against two + a Spanish manager.
[quote author=Akakabooto link=topic=33906.msg882342#msg882342 date=1244142548]
I'm still somewhat confident we'll end up getting Silva. Got a feeling Real are rather after Villa.
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now that real have entered the ring I'm not confident at all, silva looks like the type who'd perfer to stay in his homland.
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LFC is much closer to being a Spanish team than Real at the moment. 5 Spain internationals against two + a Spanish manager.
[quote author=rurikbird link=topic=33906.msg882401#msg882401 date=1244145933]
LFC is much closer to being a Spanish team than Real at the moment. 5 Spain internationals against two + a Spanish manager.
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Madrid is in Spain, the last time I checked an atlas, Liverpool isn't.
LFC is much closer to being a Spanish team than Real at the moment. 5 Spain internationals against two + a Spanish manager.
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Madrid is in Spain, the last time I checked an atlas, Liverpool isn't.
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Meh. Not that fussed about Silva. Hopefully this means Robben is available....
who in their right mind will sign that cunt robben? no thanks.
so rafa whats it like being in control of the transfers? can we fuck u off if u fail like parry allegedly did. after all parry bagged reia, agger, skertel, alonso, kuyt, torres etc.
u so far i hear is close to signing dustbin, downing and some turkish has been.
so rafa whats it like being in control of the transfers? can we fuck u off if u fail like parry allegedly did. after all parry bagged reia, agger, skertel, alonso, kuyt, torres etc.
u so far i hear is close to signing dustbin, downing and some turkish has been.
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David Byrne
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[quote author=rage link=topic=33906.msg882416#msg882416 date=1244147473]
who in their right mind will sign that cunt robben? no thanks.
so rafa whats it like being in control of the transfers? can we fuck u off if u fail like parry allegedly did. after all parry bagged reia, agger, skertel, alonso, kuyt, torres etc.
u so far i hear is close to signing dustbin, downing and some turkish has been.
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What's all this about?
who in their right mind will sign that cunt robben? no thanks.
so rafa whats it like being in control of the transfers? can we fuck u off if u fail like parry allegedly did. after all parry bagged reia, agger, skertel, alonso, kuyt, torres etc.
u so far i hear is close to signing dustbin, downing and some turkish has been.
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What's all this about?
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[quote author=rage link=topic=33906.msg882416#msg882416 date=1244147473]
who in their right mind will sign that cunt robben? no thanks.
so rafa whats it like being in control of the transfers? can we fuck u off if u fail like parry allegedly did. after all parry bagged reia, agger, skertel, alonso, kuyt, torres etc.
u so far i hear is close to signing dustbin, downing and some turkish has been.
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What's all this about?
[/quote]Just ignore Rage. Hes one of our (sadly) many fucking headbin loonies. He HATES Rafa.
[quote author=rage link=topic=33906.msg882416#msg882416 date=1244147473]
who in their right mind will sign that cunt robben? no thanks.
so rafa whats it like being in control of the transfers? can we fuck u off if u fail like parry allegedly did. after all parry bagged reia, agger, skertel, alonso, kuyt, torres etc.
u so far i hear is close to signing dustbin, downing and some turkish has been.
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What's all this about?
[/quote]Just ignore Rage. Hes one of our (sadly) many fucking headbin loonies. He HATES Rafa.
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David Byrne
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[quote author=rage link=topic=33906.msg882425#msg882425 date=1244147967]
no offence amigo, just can't stand robben. he'd be injured most of the season anyway.
the rest of it was about rafa finding out that its not all as easy as he clearly thought it was in securing targets
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It was always about him having control of who he wanted to sign, not so much the time it takes. I'm sure he's well aware that transfers deals can drag out these days, especially for top players.
Robben would be a shrewd buy, IMO.
no offence amigo, just can't stand robben. he'd be injured most of the season anyway.
the rest of it was about rafa finding out that its not all as easy as he clearly thought it was in securing targets
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It was always about him having control of who he wanted to sign, not so much the time it takes. I'm sure he's well aware that transfers deals can drag out these days, especially for top players.
Robben would be a shrewd buy, IMO.
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[quote author=rage link=topic=33906.msg882416#msg882416 date=1244147473]
who in their right mind will sign that cunt robben? no thanks.
so rafa whats it like being in control of the transfers? can we fuck u off if u fail like parry allegedly did. after all parry bagged reia, agger, skertel, alonso, kuyt, torres etc.
u so far i hear is close to signing dustbin, downing and some turkish has been.
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What's all this about?
[/quote]Just ignore Rage. Hes one of our (sadly) many fucking headbin loonies. He HATES Rafa.
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i don't hate rafa - i just don't think he's good enough. and come on if parry had fucked up the barry deal and now the silva deal rafa would be publicly complaining already.
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[quote author=rage link=topic=33906.msg882416#msg882416 date=1244147473]
who in their right mind will sign that cunt robben? no thanks.
so rafa whats it like being in control of the transfers? can we fuck u off if u fail like parry allegedly did. after all parry bagged reia, agger, skertel, alonso, kuyt, torres etc.
u so far i hear is close to signing dustbin, downing and some turkish has been.
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What's all this about?
[/quote]Just ignore Rage. Hes one of our (sadly) many fucking headbin loonies. He HATES Rafa.
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i don't hate rafa - i just don't think he's good enough. and come on if parry had fucked up the barry deal and now the silva deal rafa would be publicly complaining already.
As much as I hate Robben, I would gladly accept him if Rafa chooses to go for him.
There aren't that many players that tick all the boxes (especially within Rafa's restriced budget) for what we need in terms of attacking players this summer.
I know he's a cunt, but he'd be our cunt. ;D
There aren't that many players that tick all the boxes (especially within Rafa's restriced budget) for what we need in terms of attacking players this summer.
I know he's a cunt, but he'd be our cunt. ;D
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David Byrne
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I have a sneaky feeling we're in for him. Hopefully our Dutch influence will swing it.
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[quote author=David Byrne link=topic=33906.msg882424#msg882424 date=1244147802]
[quote author=rage link=topic=33906.msg882416#msg882416 date=1244147473]
who in their right mind will sign that cunt robben? no thanks.
so rafa whats it like being in control of the transfers? can we fuck u off if u fail like parry allegedly did. after all parry bagged reia, agger, skertel, alonso, kuyt, torres etc.
u so far i hear is close to signing dustbin, downing and some turkish has been.
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What's all this about?
[/quote]Just ignore Rage. Hes one of our (sadly) many fucking headbin loonies. He HATES Rafa.
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i don't hate rafa - i just don't think he's good enough. and come on if parry had fucked up the barry deal and now the silva deal rafa would be publicly complaining already.
[/quote]Nobody has fucked any deal up tho. Your just making shit fit your fucking stupid agenda! Barry was offered a deal and turned it down, and Silva is still available. If he chooses real its hardly Rafas fault. You need to fucking chill pal.
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[quote author=David Byrne link=topic=33906.msg882424#msg882424 date=1244147802]
[quote author=rage link=topic=33906.msg882416#msg882416 date=1244147473]
who in their right mind will sign that cunt robben? no thanks.
so rafa whats it like being in control of the transfers? can we fuck u off if u fail like parry allegedly did. after all parry bagged reia, agger, skertel, alonso, kuyt, torres etc.
u so far i hear is close to signing dustbin, downing and some turkish has been.
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What's all this about?
[/quote]Just ignore Rage. Hes one of our (sadly) many fucking headbin loonies. He HATES Rafa.
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i don't hate rafa - i just don't think he's good enough. and come on if parry had fucked up the barry deal and now the silva deal rafa would be publicly complaining already.
[/quote]Nobody has fucked any deal up tho. Your just making shit fit your fucking stupid agenda! Barry was offered a deal and turned it down, and Silva is still available. If he chooses real its hardly Rafas fault. You need to fucking chill pal.
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[quote author=David Byrne link=topic=33906.msg882424#msg882424 date=1244147802]
[quote author=rage link=topic=33906.msg882416#msg882416 date=1244147473]
who in their right mind will sign that cunt robben? no thanks.
so rafa whats it like being in control of the transfers? can we fuck u off if u fail like parry allegedly did. after all parry bagged reia, agger, skertel, alonso, kuyt, torres etc.
u so far i hear is close to signing dustbin, downing and some turkish has been.
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What's all this about?
[/quote]Just ignore Rage. Hes one of our (sadly) many fucking headbin loonies. He HATES Rafa.
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i don't hate rafa - i just don't think he's good enough. and come on if parry had fucked up the barry deal and now the silva deal rafa would be publicly complaining already.
[/quote]Nobody has fucked any deal up tho. Your just making shit fit your fucking stupid agenda! Barry was offered a deal and turned it down, and Silva is still available. If he chooses real its hardly Rafas fault. You need to fucking chill pal.
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whatever u know, i know and everyone else on here knows rafa would be blaming parry as he has done publicly in the past
barry was a target and he ends up at city.
silva is a target to the point rafa met him this week but his agent is talking wages in madrid
its not as easy as u thought eh rafa this transfer business?
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[quote author=David Byrne link=topic=33906.msg882424#msg882424 date=1244147802]
[quote author=rage link=topic=33906.msg882416#msg882416 date=1244147473]
who in their right mind will sign that cunt robben? no thanks.
so rafa whats it like being in control of the transfers? can we fuck u off if u fail like parry allegedly did. after all parry bagged reia, agger, skertel, alonso, kuyt, torres etc.
u so far i hear is close to signing dustbin, downing and some turkish has been.
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What's all this about?
[/quote]Just ignore Rage. Hes one of our (sadly) many fucking headbin loonies. He HATES Rafa.
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i don't hate rafa - i just don't think he's good enough. and come on if parry had fucked up the barry deal and now the silva deal rafa would be publicly complaining already.
[/quote]Nobody has fucked any deal up tho. Your just making shit fit your fucking stupid agenda! Barry was offered a deal and turned it down, and Silva is still available. If he chooses real its hardly Rafas fault. You need to fucking chill pal.
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whatever u know, i know and everyone else on here knows rafa would be blaming parry as he has done publicly in the past
barry was a target and he ends up at city.
silva is a target to the point rafa met him this week but his agent is talking wages in madrid
its not as easy as u thought eh rafa this transfer business?
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David Byrne
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[quote author=MaschedUp link=topic=33906.msg882449#msg882449 date=1244148990]
On the subject of obnoxious footballers, what's Joe Cole's contract situation at the moment? Hasn't he only got 1 year left at present? I wouldn't mind him either.
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They wouldn't sell him to us. Doubt he'd leave Laaaandan anyway.
On the subject of obnoxious footballers, what's Joe Cole's contract situation at the moment? Hasn't he only got 1 year left at present? I wouldn't mind him either.
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They wouldn't sell him to us. Doubt he'd leave Laaaandan anyway.
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