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Match Thread Cup Final - Newcastle (Anfield South) - Sun 16:30

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Dreambeliever said:
I don’t buy that for a minute.

We have lots of creativity we are just knackered and lacking in confidence.
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Who are our consistent creative players when everyone is fully fit and firing?

Diaz, szob, Jota, Nunez, gravy, Robbo, Macca are not consistently creative. We have Salah (who ghosts finals) and Trent.

We are not a creative team. We do not have various methods of creating.
 
I'm too fucked off to post anything constructive but I think I'm within my rights to say I'm worried that Slot might play finals like Pep does. Makes major tactical errors and tries to fix them with other ones. It's only one game but it seems to have got to him.

And anyone saying we look tired needs to ask why he hasn't got more minutes out of three very good players. Jones, elliot and chiesa. That's on him.

Newcastle aren't very good. This cup isn't very good. But lessons must be learned.
 
Fabio said:
Who are our consistent creative players when everyone is fully fit and firing?

Diaz, szob, Jota, Nunez, gravy, Robbo, Macca are not consistently creative. We have Salah (who ghosts finals) and Trent.

We are not a creative team. We do not have various methods of creating.
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Consistency has nothing to do with whether you are creative or not. Fatigue and confidence however has everything to do with how consistency you are creative.

We are the most creative team in the league and are 12 pts clear because of it.
 
Small point but I wish we played Allison.

He could have made a difference.

Shame Bradley was injured he too would have made a difference.
 
It was pretty much the same team that started midweek. Played 120 mins and were demoralized by the loss.

That's kind of shit management to not rotate. Elliot looks lively ALWAYS. Endo is reliable. Nunez is gash, but he will fight. And yeah, now we see Chiesa is something extra. I'd even give McConnell a decent shout. And Jones would have offered more. That's six players he could have rotated in for the first 45. But no, stubborn Arne plays the same tired legs.

We're lucky to have him, but he's raised expectations where we don't expect this kind of stupidity. Didn't he see what happened to us this time last year? We were exhausted. We'd better see some energy levels improve soon, otherwise the league will be in doubt
 
Woland said:
I'm too fucked off to post anything constructive but I think I'm within my rights to say I'm worried that Slot might play finals like Pep does. Makes major tactical errors and tries to fix them with other ones. It's only one game but it seems to have got to him.

And anyone saying we look tired needs to ask why he hasn't got more minutes out of three very good players. Jones, elliot and chiesa. That's on him.

Newcastle aren't very good. This cup isn't very good. But lessons must be learned.
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Agree, don’t understand why both weren’t on at HT, it’s like that fa cup exit set Slots mind on both.
 
Fabio said:
I'm not entertaining tired legs shite

This is a fucking final. Tired legs or no I saw nothing on that pitch that made me think they wanted to actually win it
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That’s fine if you don’t want to but it’s clearly what most of us saw.
 
Dreambeliever said:
Consistency has nothing to do with whether you are creative or not. Fatigue and confidence however has everything to do with how consistency you are creative.

We are the most creative team in the league and are 12 pts clear because of it.
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No no, fucking no. are you hearing yourself?consistency has nothing to do with creativity?? Are you fucking high?? Trent could be in the absolute fucking mud form wise, but he'll still ping a 40 yard through ball. The best players find a way, regardless of form or fatigue.

We are fucking 12 points clear and statistically the most creative because of fucking Salah. He's an outlier. An aberration. The kind of fucking lightning in a bottle that usually doesn't exist

We are not a creative fucking side. We are the beneficiary of 1 players outstanding season.

There is not a single forward outside of Salah who walks in to a fully fit arsenal side there's an argument for gakpo but he's not consistent enough yet. He might be, but he's not yet.

Diaz is fucking muck fur 80% of the season. Jota has decided to be a full time FIFA player it seems. Nunez is fucking insane. Szob is a fucking shithouse. Macca has his moments but is still deep. Robbo and tsimi are equally erratic

You're insane if you look at that side and think goals and assists are coming from everywhere
 
Woland said:
I'm too fucked off to post anything constructive but I think I'm within my rights to say I'm worried that Slot might play finals like Pep does. Makes major tactical errors and tries to fix them with other ones. It's only one game but it seems to have got to him.

And anyone saying we look tired needs to ask why he hasn't got more minutes out of three very good players. Jones, elliot and chiesa. That's on him.

Newcastle aren't very good. This cup isn't very good. But lessons must be learned.
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I’m also worried that the more time the squad is having with Slot the worse we’re getting. There was a nice period where we looked like a sober Klopp team, but lately we’ve looked like a CostCo Guardiola team.
 
So Mo and Ramadan. Is there usually a massive dip in form? He's been a ghost for two games now. It's kind of bizarre how he goes from a once in generation player for most of the season to "Is he even on the pitch?"
 
The most fucking irritating part is Newcastle fucking deserved to win. We let that fucking happen.

Any other season that final is a manager's sacking
 
Fabio said:
No no, fucking no. are you hearing yourself?consistency has nothing to do with creativity?? Are you fucking high?? Trent could be in the absolute fucking mud form wise, but he'll still ping a 40 yard through ball. The best players find a way, regardless of form or fatigue.

We are fucking 12 points clear and statistically the most creative because of fucking Salah. He's an outlier. An aberration. The kind of fucking lightning in a bottle that usually doesn't exist

We are not a creative fucking side. We are the beneficiary of 1 players outstanding season.

There is not a single forward outside of Salah who walks in to a fully fit arsenal side there's an argument for gakpo but he's not consistent enough yet. He might be, but he's not yet.

Diaz is fucking muck fur 80% of the season. Jota has decided to be a full time FIFA player it seems. Nunez is fucking insane. Szob is a fucking shithouse. Macca has his moments but is still deep. Robbo and tsimi are equally erratic

You're insane if you look at that side and think goals and assists are coming from everywhere
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Are you high?

Are you seriously saying the players you listed or not creative?

Each and everyone can be incredibly creative and have shown it this season.

Just because we are knackered and lost a cup final doesn’t mean we suddenly have zero creativity.
 
localny said:
So Mo and Ramadan. Is there usually a massive dip in form? He's been a ghost for two games now. It's kind of bizarre how he goes from a once in generation player for most of the season to "Is he even on the pitch?"
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Ramadan didn't seem to affect Sadio.
 
gene hughes said:
I’m also worried that the more time the squad is having with Slot the worse we’re getting. There was a nice period where we looked like a sober Klopp team, but lately we’ve looked like a CostCo Guardiola team.
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Yes, this is why I think the jury is out. The other thing is that his attitude in approaching some games are very much that the manager of a small club.
 
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