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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?
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It's a net positive I suppose
I'm not aware of the council doing anything, I'll have a look on their website now though, I'd actually feel better if there was more structure to helping people, in terms of someone to pick up the slack if I got sick again or we had to isolate cos one of the kids did again etc.
My sister in law has set up a larger, community help group with her friends that I've been occasionally helping with, & they're currently delivering food etc to loads & loads of people just in Waterloo & Crosby, & that's mostly through word of mouth (cos reaching the elderly online is generally tricky & the local paper isn't in circulation), so there must be a lot more than they're reaching.
As for the praise, tbh I don't think I'm doing anything differently to what someone in every single street in the UK is doing.
My sister in law & her friends deserve so much praise, they're spending hours of their time every single day running errands & so much time talking to them on the phone. It's remarkable.
It is actually one of the good things that has come out of all this in my opinion, it has produced a lot more acts of kindness and got people within communities talking to each other more. Hopefully that is the kind of thing that becomes the new normal.
Just had a look at Liverpool City Council and there is a Liverpool Good Neighbour scheme, which I think is probably the thing I was talking about with matching volunteers up. Not sure if that extends to delivering food to people. As I say all councils will be doing things slightly differently.
Just seen the death figure for Ireland is 406 and 45% of that is nursing home deaths. Seeing as the UK figure doesn't include nursing home deaths what must the true figure be?
The conservative estimate is around 4,000 deaths
Double.
But I wonder whether ours are low because of the fairly huge backlog in testing
Cases of the novel coronavirus in Chile have climbed past 7,500, including 82 deaths, while over 2,300 have recovered from infection as of Tuesday, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.
But coronavirus patients in Chile who have died are being counted among the country's recovered population because they are "no longer contagious," Chile's Health Minister Jaime Mañalich said this week.
"We have 898 patients who are no longer contagious, who are not a source of contagion for others and we include them as recovered. These are the people who have completed 14 days of diagnosis or who unfortunately have passed away," Mañalich announced at a press conference.
But coronavirus patients in Chile who have died are being counted among the country's recovered population because they are "no longer contagious," Chile's Health Minister Jaime Mañalich said this week.
"We have 898 patients who are no longer contagious, who are not a source of contagion for others and we include them as recovered. These are the people who have completed 14 days of diagnosis or who unfortunately have passed away," Mañalich announced at a press conference.
When life seems jolly rotten... There's something you've forgotten!
Reports that Trump is threatening to withdraw support from WHO, after their bungling of the coronavirus and collusion with Beijing.
That would put a big hole in their funding, given the US is one of the highest contributors. Not sure the timing of this is entirely helpful, but then it's Donald Trump
That would put a big hole in their funding, given the US is one of the highest contributors. Not sure the timing of this is entirely helpful, but then it's Donald Trump
Like a lot of things he does, it's solely about creating a narrative to make himself look powerful and decisive.
This is a 'clusterfuck' of a thread almost exclusively because of your MASSIVE meltdown, which will surely go down with some of SCM's greatest. It had all the classic elements; deep-seated bigotry, total lack of self-awareness, failed attempts at humour, misplaced confidence and self-congratulation, and ultimately giving way to desperation. Most nutters just lose their shit, get banned and quietly fade away. But your increasingly desperate attempts to justify your behaviour just serve to elongate your meltdown and further expose you as the massive twat that you are.
The only thing that surprises me is that some people seemingly hadn't realised this before.
You forgot "deflecting from things he's said and done that were possibly/ probably wrong and will cost him popularity and votes"
Oh dear
Which is sensible and correct.
With a lack of leadership at the top, this will be another slow and clumsy response
Quite
Wtf?
We're realistically a month or so before some more people other key workers can return to work.
We're fuck knows how long away before they can safely allow schools, pubs & public gatherings again, probably whenever a vaccine is made, so the rest of this year plus some of next year?
The exit strategy is fairly simple, same as being in a bunker in war time, stay the fuck inside until it's safe to come out.
The media pressure to lift the restrictions is fucking mental. The pressure should be to ensure that it isn't lifted before its safe to do so, & applying is as simple as repeatedly asking why the athletico match was allowed to go ahead, why Cheltenham went ahead, & how many lives that cost.
Every member of the press needs to ask that repeatedly until they get a fucking answer, instead of remaining supine throughout, & now, changing the narrative.
The 'narrative' should be tens of thousands are dead, many more thousands will be dead, & many thousands of those deaths were needless, how many lives can we save by keeping restrictions in place? Cos that's what actually fucking matters.
How much longer can it go on though?
We need an economy to go back to. A ruined economy costs thousands of lives too. We absolutely need to consider how many lives we should sacrifice to save the economy. That's the brutal reality of the situation.
We need an economy to go back to. A ruined economy costs thousands of lives too. We absolutely need to consider how many lives we should sacrifice to save the economy. That's the brutal reality of the situation.
There needs to be an exit strategy, better to have one in place so it's ready (like that'll happen).
Anyway, this virus is a sneaky bastard, there's fears now that it fucks with your immune system so it'll leave survivors more susceptible to infections. We're going to be living with the repercussions of this for a long time.
Anyway, this virus is a sneaky bastard, there's fears now that it fucks with your immune system so it'll leave survivors more susceptible to infections. We're going to be living with the repercussions of this for a long time.
None. Not one is the answer.
Whilst I understand the potential folly of this debate with you, as your economic views are very right wing, even if you don't class yourself as right wing, I'd argue that the long term economy (or least the wider socio-economic state) was due to massively change anyway, which would have been financially painful, & this has just brought it much closer.
We all know a significant part of the labour market was going to be replaced by automation & every increasing AI, & even in what are regarded as stable jobs in the UK, like contact centres & ever more service sector jobs.
Universal Basic Income is the only logical long term solution to that, & is an excellent way to provide some stability in the shorter term now, giving people a chance to either reskill or open new businesses that fill a gap in the market (the amount of new food/sweet/drinks delivery businesses that have opened in the last couple of weeks is HUGE just in Liverpool alone).
More enlightened governments around the world have been discussing & planning for UBI & various measures leading up to it for some time, it's a logical step, because you can't have up to half your population with no money to spend & expect your economy to run, not without creating ghettos full of the penniless & disenfranchised.
Anyway, I know this could take this thread off track, if so maybe we'll move these to a 'covid-19 & the economy' thread.
And just today the government gave the go ahead for HS2 to begin the construction phase.
If only something had recently highlighted why cutting journey times for business by a relatively small percentage isn't really that necessary in today's modern world, & certainly isn't worth spending billions on.
If only something had recently highlighted why cutting journey times for business by a relatively small percentage isn't really that necessary in today's modern world, & certainly isn't worth spending billions on.
Washington Post reporting that cheques to be sent out to people suffering economic hardship in the US have been delayed so as they can print Trump’s name on all of them.
It certainly sounds like the sort of thing he’d do - we’ll know for sure when he starts pointing out who’s name is on the cheque to deflect important questions he can’t answer.
But many of the parts of the economy that won't be automated easily (construction, hospitality etc) are the ones most damaged by a lockdown, as they can't be done from home.
In any case, I think this is a separate issue.
I'm a huge fan of spending money on infrastructure, it's a great way of boosting the economy in both the short & long term, & has numerous other obvious benefits too.
However I think HS2 is a mistake for a number of reasons, & giving the go ahead to it could be compounding it, unless they can show that the contracts keep the relevant (uk based & tax paying!) construction companies in business & that the estimates of construction won't rise in the aftermath of this pandemic.
I doubt the latter is possible, & I have my doubts on the former too.