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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

It's not going to do the Chinese government any favours in the international community is it ? Not big or clever.
It's standard fare for China. Local governance outside the large cities is third world. It's pretty much accepted by anyone studying figures coming out of China that the figures are 'inaccurate'. With manufacturing figures imagine how difficult it is to ascertain correct data. There are around 40 million registered companies in China, never mind the many millions of individuals or small companies that don't register and whose data is never compiled. A lot of guesswork is undertaken by Central Govt. when collating figures.
 
Those figures are also completely irrelevant. They tell you there is a problem. Then you go about solving it. The figures being 10 times higher or lower doesn't mean anything. Infections spread exponentially, if their figures are ten times higher, well that's about three days difference. The figures are not why we thought doing nothing for three months was the way to go. All that is on Boris and his fucking dumb model. He deserves death. That's not the dantes haha persona. That man deserves to die. Be killed.
Well exactly. Which is why I said not accurate but representative.
 
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Brendan would look so ugly in this thread if people weren't defending the Chinese government response at all. The idiocy of trying to act like the Chinese aren't in part responsible, is only slightly less stupid than helping your own government distract from what is at best incompetence, or at worst greasing the wheel of commerce with grannies blood.

Set aside the flimsy premise of a debate about whether saying Chinese virus is racist, when a racist is contemptuously spitting the word out as a dog whistle, what is actually going on here? Is this the thread where we say racist unfunny things to Chinese people because they are Chinese, and we are bored? It's cruel but we need to kill some time, and they are so sensitive.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Frogfish is British ?
 
Brendan would look so ugly in this thread if people weren't defending the Chinese government response at all. The idiocy of trying to act like the Chinese aren't in part responsible, is only slightly less stupid than helping your own government distract from what is at best incompetence, or at worst greasing the wheel of commerce with grannies blood.

Yeah, but shills are going to shill. The sheer, unabashed, almost ghoulish behaviour from Frog Xi Ping and the rest of his lickspittle pro-Beijing cohorts about this whole disaster has been the only thing keeping my interest (and ire) piqued, with their ever-changing and increasingly frantic attempts to deflect and obfuscate and lie. It's fucking disgusting really.

And then you have lunatics like Mors and his tin-foil hat theories, it's just too juicy to leave alone!

But but Trump!
But but swine flu!
But but bad racism!
But but it's not about wet markets or eating bats!

Nobody thinks fucking Boris Johnson is in any way competent. I doubt even fucking Tories think that really. BUT THAT ISN'T THE POINT.
 
Nobody thinks fucking Boris Johnson is in any way competent. I doubt even fucking Tories think that really. BUT THAT ISN'T THE POINT.

It actually is the point. That we're having a bigger howler over here than they did over there is absolutley the fucking point.
 
It actually is the point. That we're having a bigger howler over here than they did over there is absolutley the fucking point.

No it isn't, I haven't defended Johnson. I don't think I ever have on any issue.

What I have constantly attacked is Froggy and comrades pretending glorious People's Republic of Lies China Dear Leader Xi Ping did nothing wrong from his throne made of cervil cats, badgers and bat bones in Beijing.

Because fuck that.
 
I don't think Bo Jo is that bad either. Herd Immunity was a killing joke, but he backpedalled impressively on that.

Governments all over fuck up and people die but it's easier to criticise than to do.
 
No it isn't, I haven't defended Johnson. I don't think I ever have on any issue.

What I have constantly attacked is Froggy and comrades pretending glorious People's Republic of Lies China Dear Leader Xi Ping did nothing wrong from his throne made of cervil cats, badgers and bat bones in Beijing.

Because fuck that.

No one is suggesting they are perfect. You are just frothing at the mouth because you are emotionally disabled.
 
I don't think Bo Jo is that bad either. Herd Immunity was a killing joke, but he backpedalled impressively on that.

Governments all over fuck up and people die but it's easier to criticise than to do.

It's not just herd immunity. It's the constant fuck ups and terrible decisions that have led up is being so ill prepared. I suppose if we will elect a bunch of con men and newspaper columnists into power we should expect this bullshit.
 
I don't think he was referring to me but yes. From English stock on the Wirral.

But the abuse started with you. Not because you're Chinese but because you were defending the Chinese government.

So I suppose, again I'm confused about the racism part of it all.
 
But the abuse started with you. Not because you're Chinese but because you were defending the Chinese government.

So I suppose, again I'm confused about the racism part of it all.

Indeed. I couldn't give a tin fuck where he's from. Or indeed anyone else.
 
It's not just herd immunity. It's the constant fuck ups and terrible decisions that have led up is being so ill prepared. I suppose if we will elect a bunch of con men and newspaper columnists into power we should expect this bullshit.

Making decisions solely based on the economic impact or the reaction of the market is not exclusively a Tory thing.

It's been endemic for decades.
 
Yeah, but shills are going to shill. The sheer, unabashed, almost ghoulish behaviour from Frog Xi Ping and the rest of his lickspittle pro-Beijing cohorts about this whole disaster has been the only thing keeping my interest (and ire) piqued, with their ever-changing and increasingly frantic attempts to deflect and obfuscate and lie. It's fucking disgusting really.

And then you have lunatics like Mors and his tin-foil hat theories, it's just too juicy to leave alone!

But but Trump!
But but swine flu!
But but bad racism!
But but it's not about wet markets or eating bats!

Nobody thinks fucking Boris Johnson is in any way competent. I doubt even fucking Tories think that really. BUT THAT ISN'T THE POINT.
Actually the most disgusting aspect of this thread has nothing to do with the researched facts you cretinously and egotistically dismiss without comment but is in fact you showing your true colours as an overt racist (but but I eat Chinese takeaways!) that even the non-aligned have commented on. Absolutely despicable cunt.
 
Brendan would look so ugly in this thread if people weren't defending the Chinese government response at all. The idiocy of trying to act like the Chinese aren't in part responsible, is only slightly less stupid than helping your own government distract from what is at best incompetence, or at worst greasing the wheel of commerce with grannies blood.

Set aside the flimsy premise of a debate about whether saying Chinese virus is racist, when a racist is contemptuously spitting the word out as a dog whistle, what is actually going on here? Is this the thread where we say racist unfunny things to Chinese people because they are Chinese, and we are bored? It's cruel but we need to kill some time, and they are so sensitive.

Well it is hilarious to see Brendan jump up and down like a frenetic Trump loving chihuahua...
 
It's standard fare for China. Local governance outside the large cities is third world. It's pretty much accepted by anyone studying figures coming out of China that the figures are 'inaccurate'. With manufacturing figures imagine how difficult it is to ascertain correct data. There are around 40 million registered companies in China, never mind the many millions of individuals or small companies that don't register and whose data is never compiled. A lot of guesswork is undertaken by Central Govt. when collating figures.

This is all racist too.
 
Actually the most disgusting aspect of this thread has nothing to do with the researched facts you cretinously and egotistically dismiss without comment but is in fact you showing your true colours as an overt racist (but but I eat Chinese takeaways!) that even the non-aligned have commented on. Absolutely despicable cunt.

I don't eat Chinese takeaways any more. Fuck that, as if!

So, Frog Xi Ping, you can go and fuck yourself sideways, you fucking crybaby Beijing shill.

Also: "non-aligned". haha. Of course.
 
Making decisions solely based on the economic impact or the reaction of the market is not exclusively a Tory thing.

It's been endemic for decades.

It's not that that on I'm about. It's the not ordering shit that we need in time. Tests, PPE, ventilators, when they've been offered shitloads. Absolute shitshow.
 
I think I preferred this thread when Frog Xi Ping and the Beijing Boys were posting pictures of all the weird and disgusting food from around the world, when all the bat-eating jokes kicked off.

Happier, simpler times.
 
But the abuse started with you. Not because you're Chinese but because you were defending the Chinese government.

So I suppose, again I'm confused about the racism part of it all.
Well no I didn't, I laid out statistics from reliable sources throughout this thread however since they didn't support Brendan the Racist's rhetoric he ignored them whilst continuing his racist diatribe.

I don't remember defending the Chinese Govt. except in the case when I said they didn't cover-up the facts after mid-January and those are indisputable as they appear on the website that was set up for the dissemination of genetic code. Maybe you can point me to where I said different ?
 
It's not that that on I'm about. It's the not ordering shit that we need in time. Tests, PPE, ventilators, when they've been offered shitloads. Absolute shitshow.

Most countries have a shortage of those.
We certainly do, and our only choice was to gradually lockdown to ensure less people needed them.

Your lot did the opposite because of economic concerns. Likewise the USA , where Trump surrounded himself with billionaires whose interests were best served by business continuing.
 
Well no I didn't, I laid out statistics from reliable sources throughout this thread however since they didn't support Brendan the Racist's rhetoric he ignored them whilst continuing his racist diatribe.

I don't remember defending the Chinese Govt. except in the case when I said they didn't cover-up the facts after mid-January and those are indisputable as they appear on the website that was set up for the dissemination of genetic code. Maybe you can point me to where I said different ?

I ignored the majority of your posts the first time around , cos I know you haven't a clue about any of the graphs stays or any of the virology shit you've been chatting.

So I'm not going to back to torture myself with them.
 
I ignored the majority of your posts the first time around , cos I know you haven't a clue about any of the graphs stays or any of the virology shit you've been chatting.

So I'm not going to back to torture myself with them.
Haha yeah that's what I thought. You've got shit.
 
Well no I didn't, I laid out statistics from reliable sources throughout this thread however since they didn't support Brendan the Racist's rhetoric he ignored them whilst continuing his racist diatribe.

I don't remember defending the Chinese Govt. except in the case when I said they didn't cover-up the facts after mid-January and those are indisputable as they appear on the website that was set up for the dissemination of genetic code. Maybe you can point me to where I said different ?

2019 nCoV is a flu strain - Froggy starting off with the facts!

However no need to panic - just research Flu / Pneumonia and you'll get the bigger picture. Unless you are old or suffer lung issues then fatality rates are miniscule compared to other 'diseases' : such as car accidents! - everything is fine everyone!

And for some perspective when you see X people died in city Y : 80,000 died from Flu / Pneumonia (and resulting complications) in the USA alone last year. 217,000 in China in 2015 (last figures I could find - about #5 in the cause of death listings). Those figures from established flu strains. Perspective not Panic. - See? No panics needed!

In neither Wenzhou nor Shanghai are there any problems with food supplies. Walmart was packed with fruit and vegetables in Wenzhou. Whilst on arriving in Shanghai we bought Milk and eggs etc. and my wife ordered other supplies on line for delivery tomorrow. No issues at all - All is good. No issues. Many thumbs up!

Deaths will likely end up being 2-3% of infected (similar to SARS - which I also experienced here and in fact was treated even more seriously at the time by the authorities - and in line with most flu epidemics?) - Yeah, wait til I get onto Swine flu! WHY ALL THE PANIC?

I puked researching this list !

UK : Black Pudding (mainly congealed blood) / Tripe / Haggis (sheep’s heart, liver and lungs minced and mixed with onions, oatmeal, suet and seasoned with salt and spices cooked inside the animal’s stomach) / Horse / Sheep/Pig balls / raw Shellfish - Urghhhhh Yucky black puddings! Many horribles!

More ominously, it has infected as many as 26 million people in the United States in just four months, killing up to 25,000 so far.
In other words, a difficult but not extraordinary flu season in the United States,
the kind most people shrug off each winter or handle with rest, fluids and pain relievers if they contract the illness - just shrug it off racists! REMEMBER SWINE FLU?!

But but but they didn't do the same with the 100 US fire fighters who went there recently ? 26 million infected in the USA this season with 25,000 deaths ? No quarantine ? Racists ! - Er, yeah, racism again

Latest situation in China (from John Hopkins CSSE) below. Currently running at bang on 2.0 fatality rate. Of course since most mild effects of this virus are never reported UK labs have estimated the number of infected is at least x10 higher. So even if some deaths are being mislabelled / unreported the rate is very likely far lower than 2.0 - no panickingses!

"All the international conspiricists are focusing on are the China and the new virus as mild as the US annual flu. They are all racists, so into China and Chinese bashing".

A final statement there from Super Y Number 1 Beijing shill.

So, yeah, I think you can see why you're a joke lads.
 
Yeah, I only wish that we could have more zoonotic global pandemics that originated in the UK, like SARS, bird flu and the coronavirus, so that we could cover up, mismanage, lie and obfuscate while people die. But we don't. It's only places like China that definitely do.
The above pretty much sums up Boris Johnson's handling of the crisis thus far. And indeed his approach to politics in general.
 
2019 nCoV is a flu strain - Froggy starting off with the facts!

However no need to panic - just research Flu / Pneumonia and you'll get the bigger picture. Unless you are old or suffer lung issues then fatality rates are miniscule compared to other 'diseases' : such as car accidents! - everything is fine everyone!

And for some perspective when you see X people died in city Y : 80,000 died from Flu / Pneumonia (and resulting complications) in the USA alone last year. 217,000 in China in 2015 (last figures I could find - about #5 in the cause of death listings). Those figures from established flu strains. Perspective not Panic. - See? No panics needed!

In neither Wenzhou nor Shanghai are there any problems with food supplies. Walmart was packed with fruit and vegetables in Wenzhou. Whilst on arriving in Shanghai we bought Milk and eggs etc. and my wife ordered other supplies on line for delivery tomorrow. No issues at all - All is good. No issues. Many thumbs up!

Deaths will likely end up being 2-3% of infected (similar to SARS - which I also experienced here and in fact was treated even more seriously at the time by the authorities - and in line with most flu epidemics?) - Yeah, wait til I get onto Swine flu! WHY ALL THE PANIC?

I puked researching this list !

UK : Black Pudding (mainly congealed blood) / Tripe / Haggis (sheep’s heart, liver and lungs minced and mixed with onions, oatmeal, suet and seasoned with salt and spices cooked inside the animal’s stomach) / Horse / Sheep/Pig balls / raw Shellfish - Urghhhhh Yucky black puddings! Many horribles!

More ominously, it has infected as many as 26 million people in the United States in just four months, killing up to 25,000 so far.
In other words, a difficult but not extraordinary flu season in the United States,
the kind most people shrug off each winter or handle with rest, fluids and pain relievers if they contract the illness - just shrug it off racists! REMEMBER SWINE FLU?!

But but but they didn't do the same with the 100 US fire fighters who went there recently ? 26 million infected in the USA this season with 25,000 deaths ? No quarantine ? Racists ! - Er, yeah, racism again

Latest situation in China (from John Hopkins CSSE) below. Currently running at bang on 2.0 fatality rate. Of course since most mild effects of this virus are never reported UK labs have estimated the number of infected is at least x10 higher. So even if some deaths are being mislabelled / unreported the rate is very likely far lower than 2.0 - no panickingses!

"All the international conspiricists are focusing on are the China and the new virus as mild as the US annual flu. They are all racists, so into China and Chinese bashing".

A final statement there from Super Y Number 1 Beijing shill.

So, yeah, I think you can see why you're a joke lads.
Haha so Brendan .. you literally list zero sources to repudiate anything stated. Except your own racist opinion. But hey yeah what's accuracy to someone who works for the most despised newspaper group in the country. Right up your street isn't it, fabricating instead of facts.
 
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This constant bombardment can result in heightened anxiety, with immediate effects on our mental health. But the constant feeling of threat may have other, more insidious, effects on our psychology. Due to some deeply evolved responses to disease, fears of contagion lead us to become more conformist and tribalistic, and less accepting of eccentricity. Our moral judgements become harsher and our social attitudes more conservative when considering issues such as immigration or sexual freedom and equality. Daily reminders of disease may even sway our political affiliations.
The recent reports of increased xenophobia and racism may already be the first sign of this, but if the predictions of the scientific research are correct, they may reflect much deeper social and psychological shifts.
 
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Do we have any good news on this then? Any signs of getting through to the other side, either here or abroad?
 
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