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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

Why is it so important that numbers are wrong? It may be 10 times or even 100 times worse. The open fact the whole of Hubei (60 million) was locked down, and virtually whole of China under quarantined (1.6 billion) would be enough data for any country to take notice and start preparing. But no, during the 6 weeks or 2 months of total closure of China, criticism was laid on China for being too dragonian. Who is to be blamed now that the rest of the world are unprepared?

Because truth. That's why.
 
One measly outbreak in decades. Not good enough


Doesn't matter if we can dig up more examples....it never stopped you from eating beef did it, you short arse mouthy neanderthal?

Your performance in this thread is so embarrassing, that even your children will distance themselves from you if they read this thread.

By the way, this site will have no right to ban anyone for rascist comments after reading through this thread.

Before you start accusing me of eating hyenas and lions, I'm vegetarian - not that it should matter to call out your embarrassing performance. Why don't you admit yourself in a mental asylum? You have clearly lost the plot...
 
Because truth. That's why.
Everyone in the free world already suspect China for the data. Just multiply by factors of 10 or 100. So the truth is that China was in total lockdown. Is that not fact enough?
 
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Everyone in the free world already suspect China for the data. Just multiply by factors of 10 or 100. So the truth is that China was in total lockdown. Is that not fact enough?

Bullshit. Stop acting the victim.

Why is it so hard to tell the truth?
 
America's failure with this is partially structural, and part of it has to do with how geared the government is to support business interests. I'll allow some of that.

But at it's core, it's just a failure of governance, and decision making. If Obama were in power now, America would have a strong, and far more unified federal response to this. Would it be perfect? No, and of course it would still be massively complicated by the lack of any centralized healthcare system.

But it would be miles and miles better than whats going on now.

What's going on now lays bare what Trump is. He's a self promoter. He's got the brutish instinct necessary to win a certain kind of popularist election, within an electoral context that doesn't require most of America to find him remotely palatable, or even for the majority of Americans to vote for him.

What he doesn't have is any ability to lead, whatsoever. He doesn't want to problem solve, he just wants credit. He doesn't want to control competing visions for a solution, he just wants people in that will deliver sound bytes that won't lay the issue at his door. The only thing he leads, ever, is an effort to control his image, and how the news cycle covers him. That's it.

His only very limited successes came in an industry that is defined by deals, not by logistics. He's completely fucking bored of this shit, and has no ability to deal with it. And now, he has to be in front of a press that he's largely avoided in terms of answering questions, and there's a reality that he can't just keep denying, and a news story that isn't just being replaced by the next shiny thing. There's a problem, that needs fixing. There are millions of things that need distributing, and people have to figure out how best to do it, and who needs it, and deal with employers and private and public hospitals and this and that and zzzz.

And it's not unique to Obama, though I think his instinctive acceptance of expertise would be a huge advantage here. The fact that we currently have Trump in power is going to cost thousands of American lives, over virtually anyone else who has run for president in my memory, Republican or Democrat. He was an embarrassment, he was a joke, he was relatively lucky, and now he's a fucking tragedy.

Obama would have smiled and waved for the press, said all the right things, and created a fake façade of him doing something useful as his citizens were dropping like flies. What he would not do is have the balls to bring up a bullshit piece of historical legislation to effectively steal protective gear from a privately owned exporter, and reallocate them for use by his own citizens. That is what a leader does. Looking out for his people. The total opposite to the despicable cunt we have in charge here. And yet, cue all the fake news duly criticising him for it, calling him a pirate, a thief, and all the rest.
 
Everyone in the free world already suspect China for the data. Just multiply by factors of 10 or 100. So the truth is that China was in total lockdown. Is that not fact enough?

That the data was clearly suspect, and the free world did nothing to take that into account, much less that it didn't even matter in terms of what they ought to have done, this is a fact that the population of the free world should use to justify violent reprisals against their leaders.

However, it is not a fact that China, which caused this entire mess in the first place by eating pangolins, it is not a fact China can use to excuse themselves of the deaths occurring in the free world. China caused those deaths. The free world retardedly failed to prevent them. The former is not excused by the latter. Any attempt to do so is frankly disgraceful.
 
The people citing racism each time it is pointed out that this is china's fault, can go fuck themselves.
 
That the data was clearly suspect, and the free world did nothing to take that into account, much less that it didn't even matter in terms of what they ought to have done, this is a fact that the population of the free world should use to justify violent reprisals against their leaders.

However, it is not a fact that China, which caused this entire mess in the first place by eating pangolins, it is not a fact China can use to excuse themselves of the deaths occurring in the free world. China caused those deaths. The free world retardedly failed to prevent them. The former is not excused by the latter. Any attempt to do so is frankly disgraceful.
Hahahaha. No further comments. Dante playing the infernal hound dog. At least you are not ad hominem.
 
Hahaha. If you must blame. I won't stop you from blaming or finding a scapegoat if that makes you feel better. Hahaha

See look at what you're doing. You're criticising me for apportioning blame. You're not objectively looking at what happened and seeing the important fact that China is to blame, but you're looking at the things going on in my brain that led me to say china is to blame, and trying to pick fault with that. You're living in a delusional hypersensitive emotional fairy tale world is what that is. In the real world china are to blame. Because of objective things they did in the real world. Me using words to describe those events is neither here nor there. The events happened. They happened because of china. No amount of #metoo #woeisus will change that.
 
It’s bad etiquette just to post a link. Either copy the contents or at least provide an introduction or summary.

The article blames the US and EU for failing to act on the information china provided to the WHO. Then it bashed Trump for caring more about the economy so he can get elected again. Then it goes off on a tangent saying at least the pandemic will subside and we'll recover, but the bigger threats caused by the white people are not things we'll recover from, global warming, nuclear war, the things trump is causing, he'll finish us. Trump will end the world. Think of the children! Won't somebody thing of the children!

Then having imagined the nuclear threat into existence, he goes on to blame trump for putting sanctions on Iran whilst they are suffering with the pandemic. Hilarious.
 
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Wait, so hang on...this new virus isn't as "mild as US annual flu"?

All I've done, Froggy Mao, is quote your own bullshit, drivel and horrible propaganda right back at you and your mates. You don't seem to like it, and yet.....you fucking said it.

Can we still just "shrug it off" Xi? How come so many people are dying if all we needed was "pain relievers", you horrific Beijing shill?
Fucking dimwit. Yet again rhetoric without quotes or links.

If I said : "I would never dream of eating bat soup" you would see and quote "I dream of eating bat soup".

If you can't be arsed finding and linking a direct quote from me (and you can't since there is nothing to support your shiity little agenda) then STFU you despicable little racist cunt.
 
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Fucking dimwit. Yet again rhetoric without quotes or links.

If I said : "I would never dream of eating bat soup" you would see and quote "I dream of eating bat soup".

If you can't be arsed finding and linking a direct quote from me (and you can't since there is nothing to support your shiity little agenda) then STFU you despicable little cunt.

Every single thing in that post was a direct quote by you, said in this thread.

Apart from the last one, which was poor old demented Y1, who played the racism card early in when he claimed that this was 'as mild as US annual flu' and anyone (correctly) saying it was anything worse was a racist.

But I attributed the quote to him.

So now I'm confused, you're talking about links and direct quotes, but all of the things in that post ARE direct quotes, by you, posted in this thread, and are easy to find, because I found them.

Are you now denying you said any of those things?

Because that would be totally mental. Poor Froggy.
 
Every single thing in that post was a direct quote by you, said in this thread.

Apart from the last one, which was poor old demented Y1, who played the racism card early in when he claimed that this was 'as mild as US annual flu' and anyone (correctly) saying it was anything worse was a racist.

But I attributed the quote to him.

So now I'm confused, you're talking about links and direct quotes, but all of the things in that post ARE direct quotes, by you, posted in this thread, and are easy to find, because I found them.

Are you now denying you said any of those things?

Because that would be totally mental. Poor Froggy.
It was pathetic quoting, since there was SFA to support anything you said you just made inane retorts. You're not just a racist twat a but a lazy arsed racist twat. Now do fuck off.
 
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Haha so Brendan .. you literally list zero sources to repudiate anything stated. Except your own racist opinion. But hey yeah what's accuracy to someone who works for the most despised newspaper group in the country. Right up your street isn't it, fabricating instead of facts.

I mean, are you requesting a source to repudiate your claim, and also Y1, that this was a difficult, but not extraordinary flu (he actually said 'mild')?

Or that mortality rates were nothing to worry about?

Or that the quarantine was 'racist'?

I mean, your claims about infection rates versus Swine flu were already trashed, so o didn't feel the need.

Or that the death rate will be 'similar to SARS' , one of the other zoonotic plagues to come from China. Which you said was treated more seriously, and was similar to most flu epidemics.

Why would I need facts and sources to repudiate all of that? Everyone knows it's wrong, and everyone knows you said it.

The question is: WHY would you say it?
 
I mean, are you requesting a source to repudiate your claim, and also Y1, that this was a difficult, but not extraordinary flu (he actually said 'mild')?

Or that mortality rates were nothing to worry about?

Or that the quarantine was 'racist'?

I mean, your claims about infection rates versus Swine flu were already trashed, so o didn't feel the need.

Or that the death rate will be 'similar to SARS' , one of the other zoonotic plagues to come from China. Which you said was treated more seriously, and was similar to most flu epidemics.

Why would I need facts and sources to repudiate all of that? Everyone knows it's wrong, and everyone knows you said it.

The question is: WHY would you say it?
Unlike the bollocks of all the above - your racist opinion not fact, I put attributed quotes and links to the stats I posted and postulated on. You on the other hand are a lazy arsed racist who simply can't find links/stats to suport your shite so just lash out in frustration.
 
See look at what you're doing. You're criticising me for apportioning blame. You're not objectively looking at what happened and seeing the important fact that China is to blame, but you're looking at the things going on in my brain that led me to say china is to blame, and trying to pick fault with that. You're living in a delusional hypersensitive emotional fairy tale world is what that is. In the real world china are to blame. Because of objective things they did in the real world. Me using words to describe those events is neither here nor there. The events happened. They happened because of china. No amount of #metoo #woeisus will change that.
Hahaha hahaha. Go on then. Not gonna defend nobody or any country. Makes you feel better? Haha hahahaha
 
It's almost like you didn't want anyone to panic, or worry unduly, and you certainly tried to claim any overt concern, or quarantines put in place from Western democracies was 'racist' against China, and that China was not responsible at all.

But why play it down? Why say it was nothing worse than flu? It seemed a malicious effort to get everyone to relax and carry on as normal. You faked infection rates, quoted false data and made erroneous comparisons.

Almost as if....you WANTED lots of people to die.

Oh my God. Is that it? You sowed this insidious propaganda early on to lower our defences and slow our reactions to this pandemic, so that MORE people would become infected and die in the West?!

You're a *monster*
 
It's almost like you didn't want anyone to panic, or worry unduly, and you certainly tried to claim any overt concern, or quarantines put in place from Western democracies was 'racist' against China, and that China was not responsible at all.

But why play it down? Why say it was nothing worse than flu? It seemed a malicious effort to get everyone to relax and carry on as normal. You faked infection rates, quoted false data and made erroneous comparisons.

Almost as if....you WANTED lots of people to die.

Oh my God. Is that it? You sowed this insidious propaganda early on to lower our defences and slow our reactions to this pandemic, so that MORE people would become infected and die in the West?!

You're a *monster*
More bullshit. You certainly are full of it today. As I said .... find the quotes and link to them. Nobody is in the slightest bit interested in your pathetic interpretations of my posts. If you can't do that then you are what we all know you to be already, a racist blowhard lacking any substance.
 
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