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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

The medical people here are now all saying once you've had you get immunity.

Which is a bit odd, cos they didn't make that claim that a few weeks ago.
Of course it's a bit of an unknown, they've hardly had any time to prove otherwise, but there are very very few proven cases (except that nutter Karen7 from Bluefume) of people contracting it twice. One would assume it's a bit like any other flu variant until proven otherwise. Even so the risk would seem to be negligible if the vast majority of people show immunity (similar to vaccines which don't prevent infection for all those inoculated).
 
Also, just in case anyone forgot, here's the Tories cheering when they blocked giving nurses a pay rise:



Except that's not entirely accurate; not least the fact that you failed to include this bill also included police, soldiers, teachers civil servants, and doctors, prison officers - but NURSES! That's the best optics, right? - and separating out wage increases makes more sense, because why the fuck would EVERYONE in the public sector merit the same increase?

(And also, it was about beating a Labour attempt to undermine the Government).

Soldiers and nurses earn 60K less a year than NHS doctors. Firefighters already work two jobs, because of how their shifts work. How are they ALL the same?
And soon after the cap was lifted and May outlined pay increases for the public sector, but allocated differences based on the sector.

Nobody is saying that austerity didn't fuck people over, or that nurses should be paid more, but people have been saying nurses should be paid more since about 1950, I don't fucking remember too many whining about this very clip that ever mentioned the army and the poor old prison officers or bizzies.
 
I mentioned nurses cos they're the ones putting their lives at risk.

But in general terms, due to the pay freeze alone, public sector workers are owed approx 22% pay rises based on inflation since the pay rise came in, so they're fucking arseholes for blocking it.

The reason I posted it was due to this weird boot licking going on about the financial measures the government are doing & the way they're glorifying the NHS, like they haven't shafted it for decades.
 
I mentioned nurses cos they're the ones putting their lives at risk.

But in general terms, due to the pay freeze alone, public sector workers are owed approx 22% pay rises based on inflation since the pay rise came in, so they're fucking arseholes for blocking it.

No, you mentioned nurses because that's what every single other report linked to this clip mentioned, now, and when it actually happened, three years ago.

Don't recall you cry-arsing at the time about the poor old salary-capped squaddies, who are statistically more likely to fucking die than anyone else apart from firemen.

And again, I don't think anyone would argue that public sector workers like nurses, and maybe teachers, deserve more money, but who the fuck reckons some housing officer in Haringey does? NOBODY.
 
Hang on, NHS docs get paid 60k more than a nurse? My sister in law must be loaded.
 
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Argggggghhhhhh!

Now everyone is going on about a lock-down and martial law by Wednesday, so that's something to look forward to anyway.

Luckily my house backs onto a Waitrose carpark, so until they get armed security and Dobermans in, it could be a prime looting spot.
 




I can't get over how people's perception of risk is so intertwined with their politics that they'd rather put themselves, their family and colleagues at grave risk than do the rational thing just because... what, that would make them "look weak" or, God forbid, like a "liberal"? Rand Paul is a licensed doctor, for God's sake! From Trump, Pence, Bolsonaro and others refusing to be tested after coming in contact with a known carrier to Boris Johnson defending continuing to shake hands with hundreds of people a day, to now this libertarian asshole, none of this makes sense from standpoint of their personal safety, yet they just cannot help themselves.
 
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I think panic buying all the booze went into effect today in Australia as people face up to having to stay home for a while.

Finally, something I’m well ahead of the curve with.
 
It's raining here, couple that with the severe travel restrictions in place the air in Athens will be the cleanest it's been in decades.
 
Everything is going to be shuttered by tomorrow.

McDonalds shut
Starbucks shut
Costa shut

All it needs now is Gregg's and the north will rise up.
 
Bananas considering they are not closing

It isn’t as bananas as you think.

If the breweries have to close production facilities - there’ll be about 2 weeks worth of supply before mainstream beers start to run out.

There’s plenty of shite wine about - but it’s not all in bottle or goon bag yet - so, again if production closes.

Dan Murphy’s have put limits on buying - 3 slabs, 18 btls wine and 3 casks of wine for in-store and most online purchases per person.

Fortunately there’s plenty of good wine around and enough microbreweries dotted all over the place that this should all be survivable.
 
It isn’t as bananas as you think.

If the breweries have to close production facilities - there’ll be about 2 weeks worth of supply before mainstream beers start to run out.

There’s plenty of shite wine about - but it’s not all in bottle or goon bag yet - so, again if production closes.

Dan Murphy’s have put limits on buying - 3 slabs, 18 btls wine and 3 casks of wine for in-store and most online purchases per person.

Fortunately there’s plenty of good wine around and enough microbreweries dotted all over the place that this should all be survivable.
Survivability and alcohol stocks in the same sentence 😀 😀 😀
 
Could these deaths be prevented? (BBC - Imperial College)

The figures for coronavirus are eye-watering. But what is not clear - because the modellers did not map this - is to what extent the deaths would have happened without coronavirus.
Of course, this will never truly be known until the pandemic is over, which is why modelling is very difficult and needs caveats.
Every year more than 500,000 people die in England and Wales: factor in Scotland and Northern Ireland, and the figure tops 600,000.
The coronavirus deaths will not be on top of this. Many would be within this "normal" number of expected deaths.
It was a point conceded by Sir Patrick at a press conference on Thursday when he said there would be "some overlap" between coronavirus deaths and expected deaths - he just did not know how much of an overlap.

The flu comparison

In contrast, the figure he gave for flu deaths to MPs - 8,000 - is different. It is actually the number of deaths over and above what you would expect to happen in any given year.
Many more die with flu, but the figure gives you an indication of how many more die because of flu, whereas the 20,000, 250,000 and 500,000 figures for coronavirus are simply the number of deaths linked to coronavirus.
The testing which has been done in many countries means we know when a patient dies with the virus inside their body. What it does not tell us is to what extent coronavirus contributed to the death.

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Survivability and alcohol stocks in the same sentence 😀 😀 😀

If I run out of booze - that’s the 3rd sign of the apocalypse - just after Manwithnoname admitting he’s wrong & Dreamie making sense.

We’d be a FoxForceFive preferring to watch a film in standard definition on a black & white portable tv away from the end of everything.
 
If I run out of booze - that’s the 3rd sign of the apocalypse - just after Manwithnoname admitting he’s wrong & Dreamie making sense.

We’d be a FoxForceFive preferring to watch a film in standard definition on a black & white portable tv away from the end of everything.

I reckon FFF would possibly prefer to gouge his own eyes out than watch a film on a little black and white portable telly.

Which, incidentally, is how I watched Star Wars for the first time, in a fucking caravan in Rhosneigr. Not really sure how I missed watching it at the cinema. That's a case for ChildLine surely?
 
From a comment on Ricochet (via Medium - which removed the original article):

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The estimates that we will have an infection rate of 30% like we had in the 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic, are more than 5,000(!) times greater than the infection rate reported from China. Even if we measure Italy’s infection rate, the worst rate for a major country in the world, a 30%infection rate would be about 338 times greater. I don’t know how anybody can tell us that this is going to multiply by 338 times the outlier country with a straight face.
Another one is the estimate of 3 to 4 million deaths in the U.S. Again, if we take the death rate per total population in Italy so far, which is far and away higher than anywhere else, 3.5 million American deaths would translate to a rate 136 times higher than Italy’s so far.
 
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All I remember from watching Star Wars at the pictures was I never liked Luke and Leila. I was only dead little but I thought it was shit. Then Battlestar Galactica came out and everything was sorted. The bird was fit and the robots were better. That bird off buck rogers became the template for any bird I've fallen in love with since. Blue eyed hard bodied small titted posse representing.
 
I reckon FFF would possibly prefer to gouge his own eyes out than watch a film on a little black and white portable telly.

Which, incidentally, is how I watched Star Wars for the first time, in a fucking caravan in Rhosneigr. Not really sure how I missed watching it at the cinema. That's a case for ChildLine surely?

Well... now we’re getting a proper look at the childhood trauma that has underpinned your psychological development over the years...
 
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