Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?
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He's said it's ok to do as long as it is temporary and not permanent, or I assume it wouldn't have been passed into law today?
Evidently delta was forged in that highly vaccinated futuristic world of rural India.
It just couldn't find an unvaccinated person.
It just couldn't find an unvaccinated person.
The way it works here is via an app (e.g. via Alipay or WeChat) on my phone. It's hardly a hardship to open up your phone and show it (includes the dates and batch numbers for the two vaccinations). We have to do that here for many places inc. the metro, museums, some supermarkets etc. etc.
If you were near an area designated as having infections it changes from Green to Yellow (no travel or entry permitted) or Red (quarantine).
Seriously who really gives a shit. They can spy on me all they like, I hope they like Granny porn (all I get at my age).
Yep. No Yellow Fever jab and you're not getting into many African countries (had to have a raft of vaccinations before I went to live in Nigeria).
My daughter and partner both early 30's, both had Pfizer. I do believe they had a choice though.
Well, I care about my son and the shite that they're gonna have to put up with on a planet and within a society that's crumbling around them. But you'll be dead because you're old, so it's okay. It's this attitude of "meh, I'm alright Jack" that lets these absolute psychopaths push on with their sick agendas.
And that is because certain diseases aren't viable in many countries (e.g. Yellow Fever), if they were they'd also have mandatory vaccination.
Only if it was 0% effective at stopping infection. If it is so much as 1% effective, then you're fucked. Not sure of the numbers but from the look on that idiotic professor's face when he boasted about the partial effectiveness, I'd say we're talking about 30%, so you're definitely fucked.
That means that all vaccines need to be 100% effective or else they're useless.
Only against pathogens that are airborne, specifically engineered to mutate, and for vaccines that are specifically engineered to only block a single bit of that pathogen's structure. Otherwise you're good for enough years to see out the rest of your life. Alas you're not good in this case.
The delta variant's workaround mutation appears to have been to just, you know, replicate itself by three more orders of magnitude, as you do, no big deal, totally normal in nature.... https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01986-w
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I would lockdown until there is a treatment. And I would pay for the lockdown by getting every country in the world together than owes china any money, and collectively ratify an agreement whereby they all say in unison "what money?", smoke a cigar, tell the ratings agencies to play along, and then start issuing new debt on a clean slate. It's the only way.
I actually like that idea.
If there is no treatment, you won't like the other way. It would be to develop a new vaccine targeted to the delta variant, but not roll it out until you have enough for every single surviving member of the human race, which could take many years to build up that many doses. Then do an overnight roll out, to wipe out the variant in one shot, so there is no prospect of any further evolution. I can live with this as long as I survive.
It's not really how it works though unfortunately.
The issue lots of people have it, where does it stop.
The trust isn't there of governments worldwide, the recent Pegasus thing brings to light how these things can be so insidious and how quickly the slope become very slippery.
Yeah it's definitely a case of I'm alright Jack. Eye-roll. Because with what will be around 10 billion people on this planet by around 2050 they'll surely be making life hell for one and all. Or maybe the positives will outweigh the negatives (lower crime, help in emergencies, easier access, communication, payments and booking). Definitely set limits but don't ignore the fact that the benefits of permitting limited access are clear too.
There have been conspiracy theorists around since the day the PC was invented and life surely hasn't deteriorated (well debatable for some) in any significant way for 99.99% despite our personal information being widely available and employed.
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Says the man who can't speak honestly on the internet without fear of losing social credits.
The issue with any new technology is how it is implemented, governed & accessed. And, despite there not being a politician on earth I'd trust, the fear of how new technology will be managed shouldn't mean it comes to a shuddering halt because of the potential for misuse by maladroit officials (or CEOs). It didn't with ID cards, TVs, mobile phones, passports or many other mediums carrying the potential for misconduct.
All have had an effect, generally positive (and I've listed some potentially positive benefits of this new tech above) though also naturally with some negatives, on society, however I personally see no reason to suspect the imminent arrival of '1984-like' controls.
Well the obvious Uyghur population situation is one clear example, as we've discussed before.
The ease of showing ID for the 'right' people allows the potential for easily identifying the 'wrong' people.
With those examples it's similar for the majority, making life easy (including mine) on many situations doesn't take away it leads to life be shit or worse for lots of other people.
Not if I'm one of them. I'll peacefully make my moonshine and live happily ever after.
Until people really start to use their brains and start to think for themselves instead of listening to obscure YouTube channels and such, we cannot hope to gain any real control on the spread of the virus
To many idiots out there more concerned with holidays, traveling abroad, pub crawling and "Living their lives" refusing to take percussion to protect not only themselves but others around them.
I cutch Covid in early January this year. I would walk from the kitchen table to the kettle and have to sit for 3-4 minutes to catch my breath.
6-7 months on, and having had both jabs. I have constant congestion and phlegm on my chest and shortness of breath.
If you do not already know, then let me tell you that having both jabs do not stop you getting, or passing on covid, it merely lessens the change of you getting a serious case of it and being hospitalized
The people that believe that the jabs are some ways to get nano-bots into your system, if they (bill Gates was smart enough to make nan-bots then they would be smart enough to find a better way to get them into us.
Put them into Tap and bottle water, Beer and other alcohols, Coke, Pepsi and other soft drinks etc.
People should realize that the best lies and mis-information have an element of truth to them
The people who refuse to wear face masks remind me of the Newcastle supporters you see in the middle of winter in minus 10 with no tops on
To many idiots out there more concerned with holidays, traveling abroad, pub crawling and "Living their lives" refusing to take percussion to protect not only themselves but others around them.
I cutch Covid in early January this year. I would walk from the kitchen table to the kettle and have to sit for 3-4 minutes to catch my breath.
6-7 months on, and having had both jabs. I have constant congestion and phlegm on my chest and shortness of breath.
If you do not already know, then let me tell you that having both jabs do not stop you getting, or passing on covid, it merely lessens the change of you getting a serious case of it and being hospitalized
The people that believe that the jabs are some ways to get nano-bots into your system, if they (bill Gates was smart enough to make nan-bots then they would be smart enough to find a better way to get them into us.
Put them into Tap and bottle water, Beer and other alcohols, Coke, Pepsi and other soft drinks etc.
People should realize that the best lies and mis-information have an element of truth to them
The people who refuse to wear face masks remind me of the Newcastle supporters you see in the middle of winter in minus 10 with no tops on
Hmmm... that's an idea. I already know how to do it and my father-in-law has the set up too...
Well since it's already implemented in China that's a moot point. As for the rest of the world - don't own a smartphone. Oh you want a smartphone? Then you're in the system already. Choices eh.
It's not a moot point, it's exactly the point.
And yup, I mentioned above I'm of those who benefits (currently) from a variety of these tools.. the smartphone being one of them.
And yup, I'm well aware I'm already in the system.
That sounds like a good system for nightclubs (not for Metros and supermarkets. What about people who haven't been vaccinated yet?). I just don't think it should be in place long term and should be phased out once a certain percentage of people are vaccinated.
Froggy has proper depressed me here. I think most people think like that, and that's unfortunately why we're all doomed
Fuck that shit. I won’t even install the track and trace shite on my phone.