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Chinese "Devil Virus" - anyone worried?

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Athens said:
It didn't help that some scientists were pushing some sort of agenda. There's a Greek scientist called Ioannidis who works for Stanford, he had published work claiming that the disease wasn't as serious as what it actually is. Since this work was published some of his colleagues have said that he had fudged numbers and they asked not to have their names included in the list of authors.

The really weird thing about him is he was very well respected before this, he had a reputation as someone who had made valuable contributions to evidence-based medicine.
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He did make some good points, to be fair - in terms of the need for testing, well-designed randomized and repeated samples; the need for open, fair clinical data so that the efficacy results are reproducible. All of those points are well taken.

But then he also had this contrarian anti-lockdown stance. Later it came out that the project was funded by Jet Blue (an airline company) and I think he was not forthcoming about the funding source. Media latched on to that.
 
peekay said:
He did make some good points, to be fair - in terms of the need for testing, well-designed randomized and repeated samples; the need for open, fair clinical data so that the efficacy results are reproducible. All of those points are well taken.

But then he also had this contrarian anti-lockdown stance. Later it came out that the project was funded by Jet Blue (an airline company) and I think he was not forthcoming about the funding source. Media latched on to that.
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His data was also dodgy to say the least.
 
I'm finding it odd that my EU mandated Covid passport is going to confirm whether or not I've been vaccinated against Covid 19 & Covid 21.

What's Covid 21 ?
 
Rosco said:
I'm finding it odd that my EU mandated Covid passport is going to confirm whether or not I've been vaccinated against Covid 19 & Covid 21.

What's Covid 21 ?
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Ands were did COVID 20 go to?
 
It's about politicization of Covid vaccines, mostly coming from the USA/EU officials. For them, it seems profit is more important than global health.

But keep harping on about Trump...
 
The Nomad said:
So a Russian statement. With no actual evidence to back up their claims.

Gotcha.
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You going to call Biden out for putting his globalist campaign sponsor's profits ahead of the availability of life-saving vaccinations for poor people? Don't recall you doing it over his his export ban (which it transpires that he only lifted after India threatened to do all their shopping in Russia)? You going to call him out? Nope? Got it.
 
3 weeks gone, and still little sign of respite. I suppose the numbers have plateaued somewhat, if that's a positive sign. Yet those numbers are so staggeringly bad (20k + cases a day, 300+ deaths a day in the capital), that that's not helping too much. Hospitals still running out of oxygen every fucking day.

My immediate family and closest friends are yet safe (touch wood), but the sheer number of people I know who've died is insane. At least 10 well-known acquaintances dead. Every one of my friends and family have had an equal number of friends / acquaintances die.

For anyone who hasn't seen the partition (which is pretty much anyone alive), this is the greatest calamity they can remember.

I wonder when I'll get to leave this house - I'm totally losing my shit.
 
dmishra said:
3 weeks gone, and still little sign of respite. I suppose the numbers have plateaued somewhat, if that's a positive sign. Yet those numbers are so staggeringly bad (20k + cases a day, 300+ deaths a day in the capital), that that's not helping too much. Hospitals still running out of oxygen every fucking day.

My immediate family and closest friends are yet safe (touch wood), but the sheer number of people I know who've died is insane. At least 10 well-known acquaintances dead. Every one of my friends and family have had an equal number of friends / acquaintances die.

For anyone who hasn't seen the partition (which is pretty much anyone alive), this is the greatest calamity they can remember.

I wonder when I'll get to leave this house - I'm totally losing my shit.
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I would assume the worst and make a plan now for what to do if I or anyone I knew got infected, and be as prepared as possible. It will at least stop you going nuts. Or accelerate you going nuts. Don't leave the house unless it's to get vaccinated, and get proper N95 masks for that, and medical tape to seal them onto your face if they're not tight enough. Assume the worst that cloth masks are next to useless, which they are.
 
dmishra said:
3 weeks gone, and still little sign of respite. I suppose the numbers have plateaued somewhat, if that's a positive sign. Yet those numbers are so staggeringly bad (20k + cases a day, 300+ deaths a day in the capital), that that's not helping too much. Hospitals still running out of oxygen every fucking day.

My immediate family and closest friends are yet safe (touch wood), but the sheer number of people I know who've died is insane. At least 10 well-known acquaintances dead. Every one of my friends and family have had an equal number of friends / acquaintances die.

For anyone who hasn't seen the partition (which is pretty much anyone alive), this is the greatest calamity they can remember.

I wonder when I'll get to leave this house - I'm totally losing my shit.
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Keep safe mate, nothing more can say apart from we will hope to meet again for a drink in another LFC champ final league final maybe even with ticket this time. YNWA to all..
 
Cheers dudes. I'm fine in the large scheme of things, and in a much better position than most. Holed up, taking all possible precautions I can. Immediate friends and family safe. Some hope that the numbers might be manageable in a month.

It's the sheer lack of anything to look forward to that's killing me. Last year was shit in terms of not being able to do anything in life. There was some hope that this year would be better, especially with the vaccines. But, the vaccines are yet not available to most of us, and it looks like 2021 will be even worse than 2020.

Sucks that watching football is so shit too at the moment.
 
You still watch the football? Why suffer needless pain, have you considered doing something else such as beating yourself unconscious with a brick?
 
Stay safe, @dmishra.

The situation does not appear to be that horribly bad in South India but still a significantly high number of cases. Too many of my friends and family back home have been infected. Some of them hospitalized. Thankfully all of them have recovered. Among my relatives and friends, the elderly and folks with comorbidities have been vaccinated.
 
peekay said:
Stay safe, @dmishra.

The situation does not appear to be that horribly bad in South India but still a significantly high number of cases. Too many of my friends and family back home have been infected. Some of them hospitalized. Thankfully all of them have recovered. Among my relatives and friends, the elderly and folks with comorbidities have been vaccinated.
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Bangalore getting pretty bad
 
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